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Sadly, there really is nothing saying the Chaos Wave wasn't just a big domino effect, is there?

I'm arguing with a person about it right now. Sure it ****ed up the omniverse but I don't have anything that specifically says it was her. He argues it was just her initial action and everythign else was a chain reaction.

Originally posted by Utrigita
I remember On Panel Proof > Bio Statements

Cool,
so show me on panel, Concepts outside the Multiverse actually doing something.

Because like I said, the issue you're talking about mentioned them existing,
but,
they are irrelevant to applicable Reality. (in other words, you'l never see them again)

That scene was admiring the LT, not the Concepts,
those Concepts were only there in that ONE panel,
to give LT's occupation outside the Prime Multiverse substance.

Originally posted by Galan007
I don't necessarily think the Zombies should be ranked by power alone -- I was mainly thinking the Zombie scourge itself should be ranked based on it's ineffectiveness, [ie. the Zombies infected almost every single living being in their entire Universe].

Naturally the scourge wouldn't be anywhere near the top of your list, but it should be somewhere on it, imo.

The thing is, the biggest feat they accomplished was killing a Starving Galactus.
And Ego.

Starving Galactus doesn't even make the list himself.

There seemed to be no greater being in that Alternate madness.

I'll post my view below.

Now remember, Seven Zombies absorbed the powers of the Silver Surfer.

Galactus (at the peak of his Hunger) vaporizing every Zombie part he hits:

Galactus was at the peak of his weakness:


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The ones that absorbed the Surfer's powers think they stand a chance:


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Nah:

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So they retreat,
even though they can survive with just a head as a body, lol,
they can't survive disintegration:


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Now look at all the tech/artifacts they had to compile to hurt this Starving Galactus:

"Vibranium ...
Crystals from Dr Strange's sanctuary,
Stuff from the Baxter Building (FF tech)
something from Castle Doom (tech) .. "


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In the mean time, while they build their super canon,
Galactus is outside battling another set of Zombies that tried to attack him,
they did hurt him a bit though: (freakin Zombies) lol:

The weapon is ready, they amplify it's potency with Surfer's power,
all Seven Zombies energize the canon, using the Power Cosmic against Galactus:

They hit Starving Galactus Twice:


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Starving Galactus goes down:


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It's dinner time boys: (ONLY the Seven Zombies eat and absorb)
(Spider Man-Luke Cage-Henry Pym-Tony Stark-Wolvy-Captain America-Hulk)


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So they absorb Starving Galactus' power,
which gives them access to the rest of the Universe.

They have literally become this Alternate Hungry Galactus,
so much so,
that an Alien Planet registers Galactus' presence when they approach that world:

Originally posted by Mr Master
Cool,
so show me on panel, Concepts outside the Multiverse actually doing something.

Because like I said, the issue you're talking about mentioned them existing,
but,
they are irrelevant to applicable Reality. (in other words, you'l never see them again)

That scene was admiring the LT, not the Concepts,
those Concepts were only there in that ONE panel,
to give LT's occupation outside the Prime Multiverse substance.

Not the way I read It, I read it as he needs the other forms to be capable of communicating with other concepts

http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lt1wo0.jpg

But it's just my analyse on the matter.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Not the way I read It, I read it as he needs the other forms to be capable of communicating with other concepts

http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lt1wo0.jpg

But it's just my analyse on the matter.

They didn't do anything, or say anything.

It was just to give the LT's occupation outside the Prime Multiverse substance.

I did concede they exist, but they're irrelevant,
that's why they aren't even recognized in LT's bio.

Originally posted by lordboo
mr m has captain britain ever used excalibur?

Barely. He did use it, but not on a cosmic scale.

We only have the statements of several Britain corps
and Roma herself concerning it's power.

Roma called it the "Hand of god"

Originally posted by Utrigita
Okay but it should also be noted that a single CC have destroyed and remade the omniverse which is basically what Wanda did.

True, but there is one subtle yet significant difference.

Wanda threatened the "Ascension" itself according to Roma.

Now while I have no idea what that is exactly,
I know it's somewhere beyond the Omniverse,

only are I know of beyond the Omniverse is Marvel heaven.

Did Wanda threaten Toaa? hm

Originally posted by Utrigita
Also the fact that the Beyonders Dimension was warped doesn't really tell us anything IMO it's fully possible that they warped it right back the way it was previously to the Chaos Wave.

It's plausible,
but since we have no evidence either way,
we should just stick to what we know for sure.

Wanda re-created the Omniverse and everything in it.

Originally posted by Utrigita
ALso I would like to point out that the Beyonders in fact NEVER interferes ore experiments without the authorisation of the LT. Same thing would apply here I think,

Only concerning the CCu experiment sdo the BeyonderS need LT's approval,
it's never been stated that the BeyonderS need permission to interfere in other events.

In fact,
by Meggan tapping into their power shows that they can (atleast indirectly)
they can interfere.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Also you are forgetting that Meggan harnessed the power of the Beyond she was capable of momentarily stopping the Chaos Wave now I believe she harnessed the power of a baby CC (ore something like that) and it's still a fraction of there try power.

She never stopped, she slowed it down for just a moment.
(she was immediately overwhelmed by the Wave)

And Meggan harnessed the "Pan-Dimensional power of Beyond for her own"

The BeyonderS reside within a lightless Universe in the Beyond,
inside the Pan-Dimensional Cross Roads of infinity,
which can be access through the the Negative Zone.

Imo, that scan strongly alludes to Meggan harnessing all the power there.

Originally posted by Utrigita
All this said I wouldn't Put anyone except for LT (disregarding PIS and HOTU and TOAA) above the Beyonders.

That's cool,
but imo since the Power of the BeyonderS
was just enough to slow the Wave down for an instant.

I have to give Wanda the edge.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Barely. He did use it, but not on a cosmic scale.

We only have the statements of several Britain corps
and Roma herself concerning it's power.

Roma called it the "Hand of god"

I saw those scans in the early pages of this thread.

They were fascinating, I was actually wondering if you knew the issue numbers/arc where he obtains the sword/amulet? I would really like to read those.

Originally posted by Mr Master
She never stopped, she slowed it down for just a moment.
(she was immediately overwhelmed by the Wave)

And Meggan harnessed the "Pan-Dimensional power of Beyond for her own"

The BeyonderS reside within a lightless Universe in the Beyond,
inside the Pan-Dimensional Cross Roads of infinity,
which can be access through the the Negative Zone.

Imo, that scan strongly alludes to Meggan harnessing all the power there.

What's funny is in the long run,
Meggan's power-up/sacrifice really didn't do a whole lot more, then when Juggernaut used The Blob's fat ass to "plug the hole" in an effort to bide time against the CW:

They both succeeded in only momentarily slowing it afterall. 😂

Originally posted by Merlyn
I saw those scans in the early pages of this thread.

They were fascinating,

Indeed friend, the artwork is equally fascinating.

Originally posted by Merlyn
I was actually wondering if you knew the issue numbers/arc where he obtains the sword/amulet? I would really like to read those.

Excalibur v2 - #1 - 4 (greate arc)

Originally posted by Galan007
What's funny is in the long run,
Meggan's power-up/sacrifice really didn't do a whole lot more, then when Juggernaut used The Blob's fat ass to "plug the hole" in an effort to bide time against the CW:

They both succeeded in only momentarily slowing it afterall.

This is hilarious. 😆

But to be fair, Blob only plugged the whole from widening again,
while Meggan actually slowed it down head on, just for an instant though.

"Blob's fat ass" 😂

Originally posted by Mr Master
Of course not.

Where LT is when Marvel gets completely folded is a mystery.


So why should it be any different for the True Beyonders?

Originally posted by Mr Master
All the major Concepts/Abstracts have a totality and an infinite number of aspects.

Do you have any proof of this?

Originally posted by Galan007
[b]Update on the Marvel Zombies...

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Well after literally eating Ego the Living Planet:

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We find that the Zombies have devoured almost every being in the entire Universe:

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How come they aren't all Galactusy anymore?

Originally posted by King Kandy
How come they aren't all Galactusy anymore?
The 7 beings that originally ate Galactus are still cosmically powered -- The rest are just your 'normal' infected characters.

Originally posted by Galan007
The 7 beings that originally ate Galactus are still cosmically powered -- The rest are just your 'normal' infected characters.
How is the new Zombies comic? After the first Marvel Zombies and Marvel Zombies vs Army of Darkness, the Ult FF issues, and the Black Panther tie ins, I am kinda fed up with the zombies. I am looking forward to The Jason Vs Freddy vs Ash but thats a guilty pleasure.

Originally posted by HueyFreeman
How is the new Zombies comic? After the first Marvel Zombies and Marvel Zombies vs Army of Darkness, the Ult FF issues, and the Black Panther tie ins, I am kinda few up with the zombies.
I really liked the first issue of the second Zombie series -- But I'm a sucker for Zombie comics, so I might be kind of biased. lol

Originally posted by Galan007
The 7 beings that originally ate Galactus are still cosmically powered -- The rest are just your 'normal' infected characters.

Yeah, but even those seven don't have the full suits any more.