Everything COSMIC in Marvel - the Hierarchy, Battles, Feats, Q & A , scans galore!

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the thing that confused the hell outta me is the fact that ultimately reed is the one resposible for the FF condtion due to the fact that he psionically manipulated the cosmic rays that hit them from the moment they (cosmic rays)left he big bang, im also not comfortable with the fact that the dude that was with him was just another scientist who had an unyeilding quest for knowledge who evolved rather than some cosmic enity that severd consonance.........just had to get that out

Originally posted by Mr Master
"Is that your wish Galactus? ... to condemn the Cosmos to ultimate extinction,
and yourself to an Eternity in an Infinite Void, (so Galactus would SURVIVE)

Then, with time, quick time, also Galactus would perish, he wouldn't have anything anymore to keep his sustenance.
So, due to that, Galactus existence also depends on PF.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Then, with time, quick time, also Galactus would perish, he wouldn't have anything anymore to keep his sustenance.
So, due to that, Galactus existence also depends on PF.

Why is that to be exact the planets that support life would still be there, no matter if the suns are there ore not...

Originally posted by Utrigita
Why is that to be exact the planets that support life would still be there, no matter if the suns are there ore not...

If there are no stars, there really wouldn't be any planets anymore.
They could be physically there, but without energy and lifeless. Dead planets.
With time, there would be no more Galactus.
So with destroying PF, Galactus would actually also be destroying himself
and others life.

Originally posted by Xplosive
If there are no stars, there really wouldn't be any planets anymore.
They could be physically there, but without energy and lifeless. Dead planets.
With time, there would be no more Galactus.
So with destroying PF, Galactus would actually also be destroying himself
and others life.

Naw... Galactus could simply build a device like he did in the Black Celestial arc, which eats time and space. Once the entire 616 spacetime was consumed, he would peel back his armor and create a new universe.

Originally posted by Xplosive
If there are no stars, there really wouldn't be any planets anymore.
They could be physically there, but without energy and lifeless. Dead planets.
With time, there would be no more Galactus.
So with destroying PF, Galactus would actually also be destroying himself
and others life.

If oure sun died does that means that ore earth would cease to exist??? Nothing about it turning into a red Giant ore anything is just died right now, would oure earth cease to exist???

Depending on the answer would oure Earth still support life but life being unable to develope because of the lacking sun???

On a sidenote he will probably just turn to other sources to devoure

Originally posted by Utrigita
If oure sun died does that means that ore earth would cease to exist??? Nothing about it turning into a red Giant ore anything is just died right now, would oure earth cease to exist???

We know that Earth has core, which has energy and Earth is depending on it. Without it, Earth would frozen and everything.
But without sun, there wouldn't be life, but would Earth exists? Probably, but it would be frozen and lifeless and not rich anymore. Would it survive without sun. Probably, but we know there wouldn't be any life and Earth wouldn't be rich anymore.

Galactus should go probably on other sources, but which are that? No stars, dead planets, galaxies also practically dead since solar systems are galaxie.

Originally posted by Xplosive
We know that Earth has core, which has energy and Earth is depending on it. Without it, Earth would frozen and everything.
But without sun, there wouldn't be life, but would Earth exists? Probably, but it would be frozen and lifeless and not rich anymore. Would it survive without sun. Probably, but we know there wouldn't be any life and Earth wouldn't be rich anymore.

Galactus should go probably on other sources, but which are that? No stars, dead planets, galaxies also practically dead since solar systems are galaxie.

That's called a microwave dinner for big G.

Originally posted by Xplosive
We know that Earth has core, which has energy and Earth is depending on it. Without it, Earth would frozen and everything.
But without sun, there wouldn't be life, but would Earth exists? Probably, but it would be frozen and lifeless and not rich anymore. Would it survive without sun. Probably, but we know there wouldn't be any life and Earth wouldn't be rich anymore.

Galactus should go probably on other sources, but which are that? No stars, dead planets, galaxies also practically dead since solar systems are galaxie.

Correct there wouldn't be life on the surface but the planet would still support life whether ore not the sun is still active a good example on such a incident would be Europa the moon orbeting Jupiter which in theory supports life it doesn't get enough sun radiation for life to actually exist but the foundament for life is still there and that is all Galactus needs.

Everything els Galactus trives on energy in all it forms

http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,144535.0.html

preform a search on the page with the word prime director ore Galador and you will find the relevant scans for some reason I can post a link but it isn't working.

Edit: Hyperstorm incident springs to mind too.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Naw... Galactus could simply build a device like he did in the Black Celestial arc, which eats time and space. Once the entire 616 spacetime was consumed, he would peel back his armor and create a new universe.
Originally posted by Xplosive
Then, with time, quick time, also Galactus would perish, he wouldn't have anything anymore to keep his sustenance.
So, due to that, Galactus existence also depends on PF.

I have to disagree friend,
Uatu was speculating, he asked "can even you endure such desolation"

But,

Galactus quickly answered:
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"I am Supreme unto myself"
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Galactus doesn't need PF at all ... nor "Entity" nor "Concept" (just like he said)

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I can name you atleast 20 cats right now that would be able to sustain Stars,
power up their original cores again,
or simply create new ones from scratch.

Oh, that goes for whole UniverseS aswell.

I told ya before good friend, PF is not as essential to Reality as Galactus, never ever.

But in the "natural" cosmic sheme of things, Phoenix plays its role,
only that it can be replaced, unlike Galactus' purpose.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Naw... Galactus could simply build a device like he did in the Black Celestial arc,
which eats time and space.
Once the entire 616 spacetime was consumed,
he would peel back his armor and create a new universe.

👆 btw Ku,
Galactus would actually end up absorbing all of Marvel, not just 616,
so in essence,
Galactus would re-create the Prime Multiverse primarily
and everything beyond as a result. (just like Entropy did)

Where would u place the Absolutes

Originally posted by guy222
Where would u place the Absolutes

Theoretically (by legend) Galaxy destroyers,
only Planets have been seen taken out by an Absolute on panel.

Ubi did stalemate and was nearly getting the better of Giraud one on one,
but then a weaker Thor (Woden) jumped in,
together they owned Ubi the Absolute, so ...

so basically that means they don't make the list. 🙂

Universal power is the minimum requirement,
these cats haven't shown that and are only related to that in myth.

btw. Hope you have a great year friend. 😎

Here's an Omninous yet sleek looking Death:

Here's Gothic Death:

🙂

Mr. M how old are you?

You "sound" in your 30-40's

Originally posted by Mr Master
Here's Gothic Death:

🙂

That one seems to foreshadow Thanos's death...

Originally posted by Mr Master
I can name you atleast 20 cats right now that would be able to sustain Stars,
power up their original cores again,
or simply create new ones from scratch.

I know, but then, why was so much fuss about saving the PF?
PF could also destroy Galactus.

Originally posted by Xplosive
I know, but then, why was so much fuss about saving the PF?

In the natural cosmic scheme,
Phoenix is just as important to reality as Galactus or any other abstract.
They all need each other in a naturally functioning universe.

Now,
there are many beings that created and sustain their own realities
without the need for the PF. (because they power their own stars in their own realities)

But,
the Omniverse as a whole cannot exist without Galactus,
thus all realities depend on Galactus' survival.

Originally posted by Xplosive
PF could also destroy Galactus.

I truly doubt that.
There's absolutely no evidence of any kind to suggest that,
and indeed, the only evidence we have is of Galactus' hierarchical right,
to erase the PF from existence if he wanted to.

Originally posted by Mr Master
But, the Omniverse as a whole cannot exist without Galactus,
thus all realities depend on Galactus' survival.

Yes, they can, but Abraxas is then released. And I can name you more than 10 cats that they could destroy Abraxas.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I truly doubt that.
There's absolutely no evidence of any kind to suggest that,
and indeed, the only evidence we have is of Galactus' hierarchical right,
to erase the PF from existence if he wanted to.

I have no doubt that PF could destroy Galactus. When Rachel fought him ad dominated easily, it was hungry Galactus, but I don't see any trouble for PF destroying him then.

When Galactus wanted to erase PF, he could never do it by brute force, but we know Rachel gave herself willingly. Otherwise that wouldn't happen.
If Rachel wouldn't do that and if they would fight then, the outcome would be the same like in their first encounter. I don't think PF would have trouble actually destroying Galactus in both occasions.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Yes, they can,
but Abraxas is then released.

No they can't.
Abraxas is the the living imbalance that's produced by Galactus' "death"
So no Galactus, no prime Multiverse which leads to no Omniverse.
Originally posted by Xplosive
And I can name you more than 10 cats that they could destroy Abraxas.

Excluding pre-retcons, and/or weapons/artifacts?
You would find it difficult to name 5 my friend.
Originally posted by Xplosive
I have no doubt that PF could destroy Galactus.
When Rachel fought him ad dominated easily,
it was hungry Galactus,
but I don't see any trouble for PF destroying him then.

This is inconsequential, cause Galactus was starving.
I find it strange this silly encounter makes you doubtless.
Originally posted by Xplosive
When Galactus wanted to erase PF,
he could never do it by brute force,
but we know Rachel gave herself willingly.
Otherwise that wouldn't happen.

You have no proof it wouldn't still have happened.

So that's up in the air.

Originally posted by Xplosive
If Rachel wouldn't do that and if they would fight then,
the outcome would be the same like in their first encounter.
I don't think PF would have trouble actually destroying Galactus in both occasions.

An unsupported opinion, respected but of no consequence.