Originally posted by Mr Master
No they can't.
Abraxas is the the living imbalance that's produced by Galactus' "death"
So no Galactus, no prime Multiverse which leads to no Omniverse.
His death mean Abraxas comes. There are who could destroy Abraxas single handily. Omniverse would still exists and when Galactus died, everything still existed.
Originally posted by Mr Master
This is inconsequential, cause Galactus was starving.
I find it strange this silly encounter makes you doubtless.
It doesn't matter. PF was then too much, she hurt Galactus pretty easily.
I really don't se any problem her destroying him then, if she would chose so.
Originally posted by Mr Master
You have no proof it wouldn't still have happened.So that's up in the air.
I have no proof, except that she gave up her self willingly. Otherwise, Galactus wouldn't be able to do that, that is why she gave herself up.
He lost very easily against her, when he was hungry.
Here was the same case. If the battle would come and if PF would defeat him and would chose to destroy him, it would be the same case like when Galactus tried to do that to PF.
Abstracts and powerhouses would come to convince PF to not to destroy him.
Originally posted by Xplosive
His death mean Abraxas comes. There are who could destroy Abraxas single handily. Omniverse would still exists and when Galactus died, everything still existed.
Destroy Abraxas = Erase the Concept destruction from the Multiverse...
Would you be so kind as to mention me one that can do that besides pre retcon Beyonder and IMO LT.
Not remake the multiverse ore anything destroy the concept as you are suggesting.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Destroy Abraxas = Erase the Concept destruction from the Multiverse...Would you be so kind as to mention me one that can do that besides pre retcon Beyonder and IMO LT.
Not remake the multiverse ore anything destroy the concept as you are suggesting.
But, as you could see, everything still existed, literally. But Abraxas was free and was powerful enough to collaps realities.
But there are already four mutants who shown greater power than Abraxas ever and I don't see any trouble for them to crush him.
They could probably made their own concepts.
Originally posted by Xplosive
But, as you could see, everything still existed, literally. But Abraxas was free and was powerful enough to collaps realities.
But there are already four mutants who shown greater power than Abraxas ever and I don't see any trouble for them to crush him.They could probably made their own concepts.
Crush him M-body sure defeat the concept ❌
I repeat the only being I have seen having that power is Pre Retcon Beyonder and it toke a part of his power to do so.
I know what mutants you think of and either would be capable IMO of erasing a concept from Existance the first obstical would be LT, so.. it's not as easy.
Originally posted by Xplosive
His death mean Abraxas comes.
Originally posted by Xplosive
There are who could destroy Abraxas single handily.
Originally posted by Xplosive
Omniverse would still exists and when Galactus died, everything still existed.
Originally posted by Xplosive
It doesn't matter. PF was then too much, she hurt Galactus pretty easily.
Should I bring up Rachel getting her ass K.O.'d by Thor?
I can bring up many incidents where Phoenix
and indeed the "Force" itself are getting owned.
So don't bring up that Phoenix over Galactus crap stinkin with Plot Device (Starving)
Originally posted by Xplosive
I really don't se any problem her destroying him then, if she would chose so.
Originally posted by Xplosive
I have no proof, except that she gave up her self willingly.
Otherwise, Galactus wouldn't be able to do that, that is why she gave herself up.
Originally posted by Xplosive
He lost very easily against her, when he was hungry.
Quasar holding his own
against Rachel Summers with the Phoenix Force, and Mordred simultaneously,
while protecting Nightcrawler, Meggan and Captain Britain:
If you're gonna keep bringing up the Starving Galactus thingy,
I'll come back with more exampleS of Phoenix getting owned by heroes.
Originally posted by Xplosive
Here was the same case.
If the battle would come and if PF would defeat him and would chose to destroy him,
it would be the same case like when Galactus tried to do that to PF.
Abstracts and powerhouses would come to convince PF to not to destroy him.
Originally posted by Xplosive
But, as you could see, everything still existed, literally.
Again,
Abraxas is the embodiment of the consequence of Galactus' death.
The personification of destruction.
Originally posted by Xplosive
But Abraxas was free and was powerful enough to collaps realities.
But there are already four mutants who shown greater power than Abraxas ever and I don't see any trouble for them to crush him.
Originally posted by Xplosive
They could probably made their own concepts.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Which means the Omniverse is going to collapse.You said you could name 10, I'm figuring you can't name 5.
(no pre-retcons, no weapons/artifacts)Only for as long as it takes Abraxas to erase everything.
That is, immediately after Galactus dies.
Proof is that PF crushed Galactus easily, when he was hungry. And then you bring Rachel being owned by someone (why don't you bring Galactus being owned so many times, probably even more than PF. Galactus is actually a joke) (F4), I mean that doesn't change anything.
We know that Rachel gave herself up to Galactus, other he wouldn't be able to that with brute force (since he already wasn't able in their first encounter to do anything).
Mad Jim Jaspers, LT, Scathan, Protege, Impossible Man, Jamie Braddock, Meggan, Scarlet Witch, already more than five that would crush Abraxas.
So no, Omniverse wouldn't collapse, especially because Abraxas was released, and guess what, Omniverse was still there and Abraxas proved incapable of collapsing the Omniverse.
Yes, also Havok with nexus would crush him like nothing.
[i]On fantasy Island? I'm sure.
But on panel in Marvel comics that has never happened,
and there is no proof of any kind of that ever being a possibility. [/B]
Oh, Mr. Master you sure can be limited sometimes.
If Galactus isn't feeding himself, already with time he would perish. Now hungry Galactus to battle some powerful being (let say PF), that being would be able to destroy him. Because already starving is slowly destroying him.
So, don't bring, it wasn't on panel and such, because, I think you can use you brain and think logically.
If Rachel would chose then to destroy him then, she would have done it easily. But in that case, abstracts would come to convince PF not to destroy him.
You are saying Galactus has the right to destroy PF, I mean why then Roma came then to convince Galactus.
And besides, PF has also right to destroy him, as a matter of fact, everyone has the right to destroy Galactus. Tyrant was actually on a good way to destroy him, who took his right then.
If he would come starving to attack Asgard, they could gather actually enough force to destroy him. Who would take that right. He would be destroyed, Abraxas would be released, which actaully happened.
So don't make a big deal out of ''Galactus has the right to do it'' (I saw also Shi'Ar Empire having the same right).
Galactus can be destroyed and PF could do it, if she wanted then. Galactus also proved incapable of defeating PF without Rachel actually giving herself willingly.
He lost the first encounter, here was the same, hungry and would also lose that encounter (due to the fact he actually already lost to Rachel, so it favors Rachel and she was actaully making a joke out of Galactus in their encounter).
You dislike PF most of all and then come to do anything to bring it down and saying it was f*uckin plot device (why don't you say Galactus, who was owned by anyone, destroying PF was a f*ucking plot device).
Originally posted by Xplosive
Proof is that PF crushed Galactus easily, when he was hungry.
And then you bring Rachel being owned by someone
(why don't you bring Galactus being owned so many times,
probably even more than PF. Galactus is actually a joke) (F4),
I mean that doesn't change anything.
Originally posted by Xplosive
We know that Rachel gave herself up to Galactus,
other he wouldn't be able to that with brute force
(since he already wasn't able in their first encounter to do anything).
Originally posted by Xplosive
Mad Jim Jaspers, LT, Scathan, Protege, Impossible Man, Jamie Braddock, Meggan, Scarlet Witch, already more than five that would crush Abraxas.
So no, Omniverse wouldn't collapse, especially because Abraxas was released,
MJJ was absorbed by Fury-Prime.
So you got LT, Scathan and Jamie.
Neither LT or Scathan can ever interfere in the duties of a natural Concept.
So, you're left with Jamie. 🙂
Originally posted by Xplosive
and guess what, Omniverse was still there and Abraxas proved incapable of collapsing the Omniverse.
Again, the Omniverse DOES collapse, Abraxas IS that collapse embodied.
It doesn't fall apart in an instant,
Abraxas does it manually when he passes by UniverseS.
Every reality he comes near to ... collapses, it's as simple as that.
Abraxas didn't collapse the entire Omniverse
because he was stopped by Reed who remade the entire Prime Multiverse
in order to banish Abraxas.
Originally posted by Xplosive
Yes, also Havok with nexus would crush him like nothing.
Originally posted by Xplosive
Oh, Mr. Master you sure can be limited sometimes.
Originally posted by Xplosive
If Galactus isn't feeding himself, already with time he would perish.
Originally posted by Xplosive
Now hungry Galactus to battle some powerful being (let say PF),
that being would be able to destroy him.
Because already starving is slowly destroying him.So, don't bring, it wasn't on panel and such,
because, I think you can use you brain and think logically.If Rachel would chose then to destroy him then, she would have done it easily. But in that case, abstracts would come to convince PF not to destroy him.
I can play that game too X
Rachel Summers/Phoenix Force (while in the 616 Universe)
getting Owned by Mordred,
and Mordred is in ANOTHER Universe
(Mordred has absolute control of Rachel)
See. swank
Originally posted by Xplosive
You are saying Galactus has the right to destroy PF,
I mean why then Roma came then to convince Galactus.
Originally posted by Xplosive
And besides, PF has also right to destroy him
Originally posted by Xplosive
as a matter of fact, everyone has the right to destroy Galactus.
Tyrant was actually on a good way to destroy him, who took his right then.
Galactus wasn't attacking the PF,
Galactus was nonchalantly going to erase the Force from existence,
and the Force was going to accept its fate,
and the Celestial Guardian was going to allow it,
and neither the Watcher or Death itself could interfere with Galactus.
Yea, they knew erasing the "Force" would be perilous for the natural universe,
but, there was nothing they could do about it,
except try and persuade Galactus to change his mind.
Originally posted by Xplosive
If he would come starving to attack Asgard,
they could gather actually enough force to destroy him.
Who would take that right.
He would be destroyed, Abraxas would be released, which actaully happened.
Originally posted by Xplosive
So don't make a big deal out of ''Galactus has the right to do it''
(I saw also Shi'Ar Empire having the same right).
Originally posted by Xplosive
Galactus can be destroyed and PF could do it, if she wanted then.
Originally posted by Xplosive
Galactus also proved incapable of defeating PF
without Rachel actually giving herself willingly.
Galactus was gonna get what he wanted,
and no one was gonna stop him,
I mean heck, even the highlight on the cover was:
"Galactus is coming to dinner ... and Phoenix is the catch of the day"
Originally posted by Xplosive
He lost the first encounter, here was the same,
hungry and would also lose that encounter
(due to the fact he actually already lost to Rachel,
so it favors Rachel
and she was actaully making a joke out of Galactus in their encounter).
And I see you brought that scenario again to justify your theory.
Originally posted by Xplosive
You dislike PF most of all and then come to do anything to bring it down
Originally posted by Xplosive
and saying it was f*uckin plot device
(why don't you say Galactus,
who was owned by anyone,
destroying PF was a f*ucking plot device).
I'm done now with this discussion,
it's turned into circles and has you cursing without provocation.
When you get proof that depicts Phoenix defeating a normal Galactus,
or destroying/killing/erasing a normal Galactus,
please do return with said evidence, then we'll be able to proceed.
Until then, a wall has been reached.
Mr Master how many beings would you say have the power to actually erase a concept from existance???
btw loves this scan
Originally posted by Utrigita
[B]Mr Master how many beings would you say
have the power to actually erase a concept from existance???
This is all I can think of:
The LT & Scathan (can ... but never would)
The Alien Entity
The BeyonderS
Edifice Rex
Galactus
Only way to erase a Concept is to nullify it from all creation,
these are the only cats right now imo, that can do it.
Originally posted by Utrigita
btw loves this scan
Originally posted by skyfather
thanks.
what was it then,did the godess ctreate withh all the cosmic cubes?
Unfortunately Goddess wasn't able to manipulate/harness the CCUs fully.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Galactus because he has the Ultimate Nulifier? Am I understanding this right?
The UN does the job instantly though, so yea, that certifies him as capable.
