All i've had in response to this is links to Marvel.com which describe what an omniverse is and that Marvel characters with an omniversal role number the realities within.
Does that mean that each comic label has its own omniverse? ❌
All i've had is a few scans of a Watcher worried about how the destruction of 616 will affect all other realities.
So from that line you decided you'd assume he meant omniverse? 😬
Why not multiverse because thats what Watchers are usually limited to right? 😕
Unless youre Roma or its specifically stated that the issue is referring to an omniversal scale, then a line such as all realities means MULTIVERSE. Why? Because thats what Marvel is .
The M'Kraan crystal is the Nexus of ALL realities. Am i to assume that its at the centre of the omniverse? ❌
Nope, its talking about the multiverse.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
But then if Roma were to survey the Omniverse and say "Earth-27 looks pretty today."
would she be referring to the one in Animal Man or the one in eXiles...?
Roma can also decide to erase DC as you know:
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Roma's Starlight Citidel oversees the entire Marvel Omniverse:
"from this venue,
the Guardian of Reality can view events on EVERY PLANE of the Omniverse"
But how can this be if Marvel only has one Multiverse?
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Roma can also destroy any Universe within the Omniverse with the Celestial Nullifier:
"This Crystal embodies the LifeForce of your Home Dimension"
"By breaking it, that Entire Portion of the Omniverse ceases to exist"
But how can this be if Marvel only has one Multiverse?
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In fact, the Celestial Nullifier has been able to do for quite a while:
"A whole Universe! ...
He just wiped out a Whole Universe at the flick of a switch"
"In ALL the Omniverse there is NOT ONE Universe
that I cannot Desroy at the Touch of a Switch"
But how can this be if Marvel only has one Multiverse?
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Simple .. cause GS says so. 😆
Originally posted by Mr Master
FIVE On Panel depictions of the Marvel Omniverse! (actually Illustrated)..........................................................................
Earth X Trilogy - (2000)
"The Omniverse"
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Infinity Abyss - (2002)
"An Infinity beyond Infinity"
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Exiles - (Mid 2007)
"I offer the Omniverse"
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X-Men Die by the Sword - (Late 2007)
"Not long ago, the Omniverse was swept
by a Temporal Reality Wave of unimaginable power,
that literally tore the Continuum to bits and Re-arranged it"So the Chaos Wave tore DC to pieces .. LOLOLOLOL!!!!
And even REMADE DC ... HAHAHAHAH!!!
..........................................................................Exiles - (2008)
"Those lights we've been assuming was a star, just as we see from Earth,
they represent entire Dimensions.I think that's a representation of the entire Omniverse,
we're looking at All Creation".................................................................................................................
(Bio)
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Spiderman Handbook - (Late 2007)
Core Continuum Designation
"Numerical identification given to each Earth in the Omniverse"
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Avenger Most Wanted Files - (Late 2007)
1. Omniverse
2. TOAA
1. "Group of alternate universeS which encompasses ALL Reality"
2. The entity believed to be the Supreme being/Creator of the Omniverse"
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Btw. On Panel evidence agrees 100% with this bio:
"Reality ... Brian came to realize the size and breadth of Reality,
he learned of the Omniverse and its unending alternatives,
Alternative Realities ...
the Omniverse is the collection of All those possibilities"..........................................................................
None of that is true folks,
I admit it,
I was the one who drew those pages, and added that text,
I had them processed and now they're scanned.What do mean you have those issues and they're staright from Marvel comics?
So?
I actually placed those pictures withIN all copies ever made of those issues.
hysterical2
Or, you prefer the Watcher's (Uatu) validation:
First time the Omniverse was acknowledged by Marvel ON PANEL (1992)
The Watcher and Her,
are searching for Quasar who Quantum Jumped out of the 616 Multiverse
into the Multiverse that houses the New Universe.
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"He is somewhere Beyond the Mutliverse of Dimensions"
"What's Beyond the Multiverse?"
"Beyond the Multiverse Exists an Omniverse, a Continuum of Multiverses"
Watcher goes on to say it has never been proven.
But let's proceed.
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"I refuse to believe you (Quasar) are dead, you must be in the Omniverse"
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Quasar returns to the 616 Multiverse
"I know atleast it's the right Multiverse" (signifying MORE than one)
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In the end, the Marvel Omniverse is confirmed ON PANEL
"You went Outside the Multiverse into the greater Omniverse"
Originally posted by Mr Master
hey X check this out,here is the LT holding the power of TWO MEgaverseS withIN GS's single Multiverse:
According to the official Marvel Handbook of 2006,
hey, the LT is dealing with TWO MegaverseS:"the Living Tribunal also helped fashion the twin Entities the BROTHERS,
,
each of whom became the guardian of a different [B]Megaverse
within the larger Omniverse but encompassing MORE than a single Multiverse"
..................................................................................TWO MegaverseS withIN GS's single Multiverse.
Yea, even though each Megaverse is a collection of MultiverseS. ka-dur [/B]
Nope.
Megaverses are realms from outside the Marvel Multiverse(so they don't share the typical cosmic hierarchy) which are however more closely connected to Marvel than other multiverses, hence them being featured within Marvel comics. 🙂
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Marvel_Universe
"Although considered the “prime reality” in which events of universal significance occur
(and, indeed, Megauniversal and/or Omniuniversal significance),
this reality is designated as number 616 (thus, “Earth-616”) ... "
swank
Originally posted by Mr Master
Or, you prefer the Watcher's (Uatu) validation:First time the Omniverse was acknowledged by Marvel ON PANEL (1992)
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In the end, the Marvel Omniverse is confirmed ON PANEL
"[B]You went Outside the Multiverse into the greater Omniverse
" [/B]
Once again all you're doing is showing issues which show us what we all already know, that outside the Marvel multiverse is the omniverse and other realities not featured within Marvel comics as it focuses on its multiverse.
Can you show me WHERE IT STATES that Marvel has its own omniverse? 🙂
Originally posted by Mr Master
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Marvel_Universe"Although considered the “prime reality” in which events of universal significance occur
(and, indeed, Megauniversal and/or [B]Omniuniversal
significance),this reality is designated as number 616 (thus, “Earth-616”) ... "
swank [/B]
How does that show that Marvel and DC have separate omniverses?
All that states is that within the marvel universe, events or uni/multi/omniversal significance may occur.
And your point is? 😕
Marvel and DC acknowledge each other and that is canon. They are within the same creation. If that is the case, neither of them have their own omniverse.
Some issues might show the omniverse from a Marvel perspective and therefore a Marvel bias, but given that its canon that they exist within the same creation you have no justification to claim that they have separate omniverses.
Show me where your point is stated.
I don't want to see scans of Marvel characters talking about the omniverse. That does NOT prove your point. 😬
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nope.Megaverses are realms from outside the Marvel Multiverse(so they don't share the typical cosmic hierarchy) which are however more closely connected to Marvel than other multiverses, hence them being featured within Marvel comics. 🙂
So marvel went outside there jurisdiction and created two megaverses even though you previous stated that the omniverse is maked up of Comic book companies, I haven't seen any comics from the Brothers company have you???
Also the Quasar comic was written by Mark Gruenwald the creator of the omniverse Idea, he worked as second chief editor for marvel, why would he as you claim, break the Copy right and print a comic what involved the omniverse, which as you claim hold all Comic book realities I guess that if I search enought I will Find the Star Wars Galaxy located in it's own little cousy Multiverse 😬
Originally posted by Utrigita
So marvel went outside there jurisdiction and created two megaverses even though you previous stated that the omniverse is maked up of Comic book companies, I haven't seen any comics from the Brothers company have you???
Its not outside of its jurisdiction. The Brothers were a joint venture between Marvel and DC. So they can be used as much as they want. What Marvel can't do is use DC property without DC's permission, hence why in that issue Spectre isnt shown on panel, but is referred to by LT as his hooded spectral ally.
Quote from the Handbook writers:
"You can say 'heroes from another reality' in a profile, but you can not mention the actual names of those characters. For example in the Taskmaster profile when he fought characters from the DC Universe I used the following phrase:
"Taskmaster teamed with Shockwave, Whiplash, Crossbones, Zaran the Weapons Master, Tumbler, Razor-Fist, Machete, Conquest and a martial arts expert from the other universe to fight Black Widow, Black Panther and two caped urban knights from the other universe."
"
Originally posted by UtrigitaAlso the Quasar comic was written by Mark Gruenwald the creator of the omniverse Idea, he worked as second chief editor for marvel, why would he as you claim, break the Copy right and print a comic what involved the omniverse, which as you claim hold all Comic book realities I guess that if I search enought I will Find the Star Wars Galaxy located in it's own little cousy Multiverse 😬
He wouldnt be breaking the copyright by featuring the omniverse from a Marvel perspective. If in that same comic DC or Image characters were named and depicted then he would. 🙂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nope.Megaverses are realms from outside the Marvel Multiverse
(so they don't share the typical cosmic hierarchy)
which are however more closely connected to Marvel than other multiverses, hence them being featured within Marvel comics.
"The Universe is a single-dimension Reality,
such as Earth-616,
the mainstream Marvel Universe.
The Multiverse is a collection of alternate dimensions
with a similar nature and Universal hierarchy.
Earth-616 and alternate Earths seen in the Marvel universe
(which include beings like Eternity)
are withIN the same Multiverse.
Realms lacking this hierarchy of power are outside of the Multiverse,
but withIn the larger Omniverse.
Realms with a Multiverse are divided into divergent Earths
(who share a common history and diverge at a specific point)
And Alternate Earths (who are similar, but possess inherent differences)
The Omniverse is the collection of every single Universe,
dimension, etc.
Everything is withIN the Omniverse,
and there is only one Omniverse.
WithIN the Omniverse,
collections of associated realms from different MultiverseS,
are referred to as Megaverses"
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Other MultiverseS as in,
the one the Ultraverse is located in,
the one the Masters of the Matrix are located in,
the one the New Universe is in,
the one Dr Who is in (Gallifreyan Multiverse)
the one Nth Man encompasses,
the one those strange concepts are in that the LT administers to in a different shape/form,
should I go on?
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I always wonder if you're serious when spewing you known lies,
or smoking a fat joint laughing your ass off
at how you make others waste their time. glare
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
He wouldnt be breaking the copyright by featuring the omniverse from a Marvel perspective. If in that same comic DC or Image characters were named and depicted then he would. 🙂
Okay
Found something interesting at marvels own site it seems that we live in the same omniverse as the Marvel, DC, Image, Star Trek, Star Wars etc do you agree???
i think we need to slow down and not take all this omniverse thing so literally. sure there have been non canonical crossovers and such but i dont think marvel has any "jursidcition" over dc's universe or vice versa, so we cant say oh the omniverse is all the comic companies put together...when its actually...you know....not.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Its not outside of its jurisdiction. The Brothers were a joint venture between Marvel and DC. So they can be used as much as they want. What Marvel can't do is use DC property without DC's permission, hence why in that issue Spectre isnt shown on panel, but is referred to by LT as his hooded spectral ally.Quote from the Handbook writers:
[B]"You can say 'heroes from another reality' in a profile, but you can not mention the actual names of those characters. For example in the Taskmaster profile when he fought characters from the DC Universe I used the following phrase:
"Taskmaster teamed with Shockwave, Whiplash, Crossbones, Zaran the Weapons Master, Tumbler, Razor-Fist, Machete, Conquest and a martial arts expert from the other universe to fight Black Widow, Black Panther and two caped urban knights from the other universe."
" [/B]
But they wasn't now was they ❌ They where the joint property of Marvel and DC and Marvel used them the way the liked to, now why would marvel make the Brothers two Megaverses when they according to you doesn't have more then a Multiverse possibly because marvel is sure that they have a hell of a lot more???
So handbook can be used when it supports your argument but when it's used to clarify that Marvel has it own omniverse then it is a no go???
Originally posted by manjaro
i think we need to slow down and not take all this omniverse thing so literally. sure there have been non canonical crossovers and such but i dont think marvel has any "jursidcition" over dc's universe or vice versa,so we cant say oh the omniverse is all the comic companies put together...
when its actually ... you know .... not.
