Everything COSMIC in Marvel - the Hierarchy, Battles, Feats, Q & A , scans galore!

Started by Mr Master178 pages
Originally posted by invisiblewoman
i slaughtered the spelling in that 😮 was in a hury and didnt check it

2plus2equals5

See,

it's ok. 😛

Respect Roma!

Otherworld's Watchtower.

"From here, you Access any point in Creation"

Roma protects the Multi-verse, and will not hesitate to sacrifice a Universe

Roma gives Universe 616, 48 hours before she'll erase it if....

"the breach is not closed, I must act, your Entire Plane of being... will be ended"

Roma Oversees the 616 Multi-verse personally,

Roma says Understanding the Universe is hard enough, but she tends to Eternity (the Multi-verse)

"Within it, ALL that ever was, ever is or ever will be exists"

Roma she inherited the reins of the Multi-verse

Roma has Control over Time...Here she is with a Cap. Brit. would be successor

Roma plucks her husband (who was Dead) from the Past

And brings him to the present (Alive) with a gesture

Roma heals Captain Britain like nothing who had lost his power, and reconfigures his suit with a gesture

The Chaos Wave wiped out countless Universes

Here comes the beginning of the Chaos Wave

"The Foundation and Structure of our existence, totally stripped away"

"No more coherence to Causality, Chaos Beyond the comprehension of any Sentience, No matter how Grandiose it's opinion of itself"

"And this is just the beginning"

The Starlight Citadel

At the CENTER POINT of CREATION is the Starlight Citadel of Brian's (Omniversal Guardian) Ultimate Boss

"Roma, the CELESTIAL Guardian, Her Power is ALL that Her TITLE IMPLIES and MORE"

Just the HALL in the Starlight Citadel can FIT ENTIRE PLANETS


"BUT when Her CITADEL FALLS, that impossibly vast Space is suddenly crowded"

Roma's & Her Citadel took a head on hit by the Chaos Wave

"ALL the dimensions there are CRASHED into One"

Roma survived

Roma sent warriors to capture Franklin and the Human Torch wants to know why.

The Human Torch takes one of Saturnyne's employees and forces her to take him to Roma the Omniversal Guardian and Saturnyne the Omniversal Mastrex:

"but you know where she lives right?"

are you demented, you're talking about the next best thing to GOD"

This is Roma's Starlight Citidel,

"from this venue, the Guardian of Reality can view events on EVERY PLANE of the OMNIVERSE"


"The Citidel is sentient, a reflection of the Guardian ... with a defensive array that could EASILY lay waste an entire Dimension"

First Johnny meets Saturnyne:

The Torch has no idea what he's dealing with here, Gatecrasher lets him know:

"she represents power absolute, OVER ALL the Worlds in ALL the Infinite Tapestry of being"

And she's BENEATH Roma, lol...

Now he meets the Guardian, Roma, manipulating ALL of Reality on a chess board like Merlin used to do

(remember I showed you guys Roma and Merlin playing on a chess board that represented the Multi-verse, lose the game and the Multi-verse would have collapsed, simple and put) Roma is also hanging out with Eternity and Infinity.

Right here:

Notice there are many Chess Boards floating around them, EACH Board representing a Multi-verse


Roma says, "The GAME'S disintegrating, but the MULTI-VERSE DEPENDS upon the GAME"

Another incident:

"ROMA ... You're playing the same twisted GAMES as your Father"

Again:

"Merlin taught you that REALITY is a Grand Game of Chess"

heck,

Captain Britain thinks Roma was manipulating the whole "Chaos Wave" event, not the Wave itself but the circumstances:

"Is this YOUR doing Roma, are you PLAYING Another of your wretched GAMES"

Roma and Saturnyne have a weapon at thier disposal called the "Celestial Nullifier"

it can ERASE any Universe in the entire Omni-verse.

"This Crystal embodies the LifeForce of your Home Dimension"

"By breaking it, that Entire Portion of the Omniverse CEASES TO EXIST"

This isn't hyperbole neither, it's been done before:

The Supreme OMNI-VERSAL Tribune holds a COURT session to discuss the FATE of the 238 UNIVERSE, (WHERE Jim Jaspers 238 has TAKEN OVER, and WHERE Jim Jaspers 238 IS)

"It is within my power to have a given UNIVERSE REMOVED should it's existence THREATEN the OMNI-VERSE"

"Objection"

"Objection OVER RULED"

"a CRYSTAL KEY is turned, a Chain Reaction Commenced"

"A Stricken UNIVERSE is placed FOREVER beyond Suffering"

"A WHOLE UNIVERSE! ... He just WIPED OUT a WHOLE UNIVERSE at the flick of a switch"

"In ALL the OMNI-VERSE there is NOT ONE Universe that I cannot DESTROY at the Touch of a Switch"

"A few moments ago, Lord Mandragon (the Judge) ORDERED the DESTRUCTION of EARTH 238's ENTIRE CONTINUUM"

Roma becomes the Omni-versal Guardian

"My hand guides the Omni-verse Now, Unlike my Father, I have no desire to shape the destiny of men"

Respect Roma!

Some one once had the gaul to say, Beyonder was a threat because he wanted to become a "champion for life" ... not because he intended on erasing DEATH...

Let us see...

Reference: Secret Wars II - #6

Ok.

Beyonder became a "champion for life"...

Early in the issue, WAY before Beyonder killed Death, on PAGE 7 of 25,

Beyonder begins to explain certain facts about the Universe to Dave, to make Dave understand why he is now a "champion for life"

Still PAGE 7...below

Now he goes into detail about the Abstracts on a Universal level (including Death)

Now Top of PAGE 8...below

That's it...that was the time the Abstracts were defined as Universal,
When Beyonder was describing them to Dave.

NOW....Starting at the Bottom of PAGE 11...

The Watcher appears to OWEN REECE (Molecule Man)

The Watcher wants to converse with Owen...

PAGE 12...the Watcher explains the Molecule Man's history to Marsha (Volcana)

PAGE 13...the Watcher is STILL talking to Marsha about Owen...the Watcher refers to the BEINGS of the MULTI-VERSE...we SEE who these beings are.

"he is mightier than all other beings of the Multi-verse"

Still PAGE 13...below

"I have come to seek your aid...the one from Beyond has embarked upon a most DANGEROUS course"

"All of my kind gathered to consider the DANGER facing the MULI-VERSE"

Beyonder has embarked on a course that endangers the Multi-verse.
Wonder what that is? Oh, that's right...erasing Death

Still PAGE 13...below

"Stop the Beyonder BEFORE he UNDOES ALL THAT IS"

Beyonder is going to UNDO something that's intrinsic to the MULTI-VERSE.

PAGE 18...below

"We're going to vanquish Death"

"the WAY of the Multi-verse is MY WAY"...."What does that mean"

Still PAGE 18...below

Here is when Beyonder decides to erase Death from the Multi-verse.

"just feeling around the MULTI-VERSE...checking it's fundamental nature"

"YES, it CAN BE DONE...and once it's done, it's FOREVER"

Why would Beyonder need to CHECK the FUNDAMENTAL NATURE of the MULTI-VERSE, to kill a Universal Concept? hum

But let's proceed...

PAGE 21...below

The Watcher presents the REAL Abtracts to Beyonder (including Multi-Eternity), I'll prove that in a bit.

You'll be seeing NO mention of ANYTHING being Universal from here on out.

"I have gathered the MIGHTY to speak with you"

Still PAGE 21...below

SOME of US are sworn ENEMIES of Death...yet ALL of US implore you Not to eliminate Death"...

Interesting how when Beyonder was describing the Universal Concepts they were ALL ENEMIES of Death (including Eternity)

Watch this:

PAGE 22...below

I, Eternity, am ENEMY to NONE...I take no sides, for I ENCOMPASS ALL"

"It is MY DESTINY we consider here...MY DESTINY you hold in your hands"

MY DESTINY?

This SINGLE Universe represents the MULTI-VERSE?

It's the Multi-verse's ASS that's on the line here since PAGE 11.

Still PAGE 22...below

Beyonder erases Death

PAGE 23...below

"the Absense of Death ripples through the ether like a SHOCKWAVE"

"soon, the full effect will reach ALL LIFE in the MULTI-VERSE"

Still PAGE 23...below

Molecule Man pops up, after realizing Beyonder erased Death from the Multi-verse

"If you don't mind, I'd like to speak to the Beyonder alone"

PAGE 24...below

Now remember, in the PRIOR scan to this, the Beyonder was speaking with "the MIGHTY"...as the Watcher called it.

"Death is gone...and ALL the POWERS of the Multi-verse TOGETHER CAN'T KILL something"

Molecule Man said "ALL the POWERS" of the Multi-verse...NOT, ALL the POWER of the Multi-verse.
Meaning, he's speaking about beings/entities.

WHO are these "POWERS"?

Nuff said...

My bad, left out two scans and added another one to complete my point.

PAGE 9...below

Beyonder is being watched right now by Uatu, when he begins to ponder his plans.

Beyonder: "It seems like I should be doing..something MORE...

Immediately AFTER Beyonder says this, Watcher goes to Molecule Man.

Page11...below

Watcher materializes in Owen house...but he was there all along, Watching.

Just like he's been Watching Beyonder.

"You guys ONLY come around and WATCH from CLOSE UP when there's something ENORMOUSLY important happening.

"the ONE from Beyond has enbarked upon a most dangerous course"

PAGE 8....below

Let's see what this "dangerous course" is, you say it's him being a champion for life is what THREATENS the Multi-verse.

hmm...not this move...he's stopping a Tsunami.

PAGE 9...below

This can't be what threatens the Multi-verse, he's making Food for 3rd World countries..

No way this the reason to worry about the Multiverse

"He saved a child's life"

Even being the hero in other Galaxies, I sincerely doubt this is what made the entire Race of Watchers interfere.

So we now see that the Watcher's reasons to worry about the Multiverse were not because Beyonder embarked on doing good everywhere, for this would have never brought damage to the Multi-verse.

But ERASING Death will, bring grave damage.

There, the idea was in Beyonder's words, and Uatu realized it.

So... Getting on that LT respect thread?

So was the point there that that was Multi-Death?

Originally posted by Mr Master
2plus2equals5

See,

it's ok. 😛

😆 🙄 😆

okay how did you know
you havent even seen my math skills yet 😱

😆 j/k im not that bad 😛

Originally posted by King Kandy
So... Getting on that LT respect thread?

Soon.

Originally posted by King Kandy
So was the point there that that was Multi-Death?

Yep.

😎

Originally posted by invisiblewoman
😆 🙄 😆

okay how did you know
you havent even seen my math skills yet 😱

I see many things, I can astral project through my dreams, sleepyhead it's not that difficult once you get the hang of it.

Originally posted by invisiblewoman
😆 j/k im not that bad 😛

I'm sure your cutesmart

swank

Warlock traveling through an Un-Reality RIFT:

This isn't a black hole, this the Reality Gem ripping Reality itself apart, left unchecked the entire Universe would have been warped into madness.

Even THANOS was UNABLE to resist this RIFT, but Warlock went right into it and recovered the Reality Gem from the center of the RIFT.

This is an amazing feat,

enjoy!

Like I said, even Thanos wasn't able to resist this RIFT:

Warlock's durability is no joke.

Originally posted by Mr Master

Spectre isn't shown or mentioned in the retcon, and since these Megaverses now reside within the Marvel Omniverse only, LT did this alone.
He is.

"There must be transdimensional consultation with his hooded spectral ally".

Obviously refering to Spectre, but not to infringe on copyrights.