Endless Mike
Sqirrel Girl fanboy
Originally posted by Astner
The suggestion that you had any basis for your arrogance.
You calling anyone else arrogant is pretty hilarious. Remove the plank from your eye before addressing the speck in mine.
You could, but it wouldn't be honest.
Says the guy who is blatantly lying about what I have been claiming.
Fine 150 post earlier there are two people making vague references to him.
Which proves you were lying when you said I was the first one to bring him up. You want some more?
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=4150942&postcount=61
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http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=4292136&postcount=178
I wonder how you're going to spin-doctor your way out of this one?
But I'm talking of the current state of the multiverse, i.e. 52.
Which still shares continuity with the Post - COIE Pre - IC years. For example, Superman and Doomsday's first battle is still brought up all the time, so is Zero Hour and the destruction of Coast City, Jason Todd's death, Dick Grayson becoming Nightwing, etc.
If you didn't care, then why would you repeatedly bring him into conversations that has nothing to do with him? As for he being my best friend and supporter, no.
Simply to point out that you are not the upstanding man of integrity you claim to be if you associate yourself with such a troll.
I've been a member here longer than you.
Hellspawn tells me you've showed up on MVC and started trolling there.
It's not that I seek infamy, it's simply that I don't care.
Sure, I believe that 🙄
Frieza, Morg. First thing Morg wont even be landing a lick on frieza since frieza combat speed is far superior. Frieza punching power is greater (creating shockwaves with punches). He is clearly more powerful. This is a none fight.
Prove Frieza's speed is superior. Use actual quantification instead of just "I say so".
Morg and Surfer destroyed not only the planet they were on but its moons by simply clashing with their physical power.
Goku vs Surfer, Goku is just as powerful
Show me Goku destroying a star or creating a black hole.
and his combat speed is far Superior.
Goku is not even 1% of lightspeed. Surfer fought with Beta Ray Bill in Godhunter at a speed that was at the very least thousands of times lightspeed.
Im not even going comment on this post, everything you said was pointless.
I completely refuted all of your claims. Concession Accepted.
Mike, I don't see any point in continuing this debate. It has no relevance to the topic at hand and mercilessly shreds the last bit of interest for other members who're interested in it. If you want to have the last say in the matter, fine I could care less. But I won't respond to you unless your comment serves the thread.
Fine then. I won't hold it against you. Have a nice day. 🙂
The only real argument you made during this post was the energy drain (which I cant see happening since DBZ character have complete control of their energy)
Which is why Dr. Gero and Android 19 couldn't drain it.
Oh wait... 😆
and the black hole which I cant see pulling goku in.
Surfer could create the black hole inside of his body.
Blast, we have seen what blast vs goku does which ends up with him winking through them and ending up behind his enemy or him simply slappinig the blast out of the air.
Except those blasts are nowhere near as fast or powerful as what Surfer can dish out.
Everyone in DBZ verse has shields
No they don't.
and shields doesnt do anything when fighting characters like Goku.
Funny, I remember Cell using a shield to block Goku's attacks and it worked. You are using a no - limits fallacy here. What you are saying is equivalent to claiming that since an armor - piercing bullet can break through a kevlar vest, then any and all kinds of armor is completely useless before it, so it could punch through tank or a battleship.
Energy drain, you could have an argument here but how fast would Surfer drain Goku before Goku end up being all over him with blast coming from every direction along with a couple of punches per second.
Which Surfer would easily fend off, being much faster and more durable than Goku.
Energy blast is sh** to Goku unless you can deliver it at a speed that he will not be able to see and I cant see Surfer doing this.
So Goku is immune to any energy blast, regardless of power or magnitude?
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Yes, Surfer has AMAZING flight speed and some good showings of combat speed but on Gokus level, someone that can be in front of you flying and punch you and move so fast that his body actually went through you, ending with him being behind you, naah, Surfer isnt getting past that.
First of all, his body never "went through" anyone. That's called an afterimate. It's just a matter of art style and completely unquantifiable. Characters in Ruruouni Kenshin do that shit and they are barely supersonic at the best. You are using a style over substance fallacy, you think because something looks fast and fancy, it must be faster, when really it is just a matter of art style. Surfer's speed shits all over Goku based on actual quantification.
Surfer has as of yet to face someone that fights on the level of Goku when it comes to speed and honestly, frieza was mentioned as a Universal threat and Goku did just fine against him. I could see Surfer falling to Goku.
No he wasn't. It was just at the time that he was considered the strongest person in the universe, therefore no one else in the universe could have stopped him. He couldn't have destroyed the entire universe or even conquered it because it is too big. It's like saying that if I was the only human being on earth and the only other creatures on earth were ants, then I'm a planetary threat.
An Omni-directional blast, its not hitting Goku. This is the same guy that had energy blast and super speed punches going through his body while standing still (didnt even look like he was moving).
He was moving. Did you miss the point of that scene? They showed footprints off to both sides, meaning he had sidestepped the blasts. That's not even very fast since he would have to move such a short distance. Do you know what the word "omnidirectional" even means?
I agree, the energy absorption MIGHT work but Surfer wouldnt have the chance to even use it since Goku OR Frieza can cover the battle field almost instantly.
Based on what? Show me some numbers behind this bland assertion.
I agree, the black hole could work but I could see Goku teleporting out of it bringing the fight up close and personal in the Surfers face and again, CIS is on, its not in character for Surfer to even use that tactic during battle.
Do you understand how a black hole works? The event horizon shreds all matter at a subatomic level. Even if he managed to get inside somehow without dying, time is frozen from the perspective of the outside universe. So it would be impossible for him to even think or act.
Everyone in DBZ has the same or even more powerout as Surfer, they just have to keep that power in check so that the earth or civilians wont get destroyed. The difference is, Surfer fights in an area where he does not need to hold back whereas lives are in danger when Goku or any other DBZ character let lose.
Bullshit. No one in canon DBZ has destroyed any more than a planet. Much weaker characters than Surfer have destroyed stars, created black holes (which takes a ****ton of energy, aka trillions and trillions of times the amount to destroy the earth), and ****ed up entire star systems.
Instant transmission>>Black hole. CIS is on.
Wrong, as I have already explained. Time passes at infinite speed on the outside from the perspective of the inside. If he tried to teleport out he would find nothing to lock onto as life would be gone from the universe and time would have ended. Also CIS is off by default, that is the point of the full capacity rule.
Thats Picollo, I'm pretty sure goku during the end of DBZ would have easily broken through 17 shields and Vegeta along with Nappa showed that they had shields when they were attacked by krillin when Krillin took on the Cybermen.
Saibamen.
Cybermen are from Doctor Who.
As for the Vegeta/Nappa thing, I'm going to request a manga scan of this, because I do not remember that.
Yeah, Surfer shields took an onslaught from the hulk but to bad goku isnt the hulk. Goku punches harder and yes, Hulk can amp his strength but so can Goku.
Laughable. Hulk held together tectonic plates, punched Fin Fang Foom to the moon, and destroyed an asteroid twice the size of earth with a punch. Goku's best strength feat is kicking Frieza through two islands.
