Originally posted by Cole CashEven though it took a chain reaction to destroy Namek?
I'm pretty sure if the story called for it, Frieza would be more than capable of destroying a star or a sun-eater.Superman fanboys would probably treat it like they treat Master Roshi destroying the moon and ignore it, while loving every moment of Superman doing the same things.
Because Frieza held back, he destroyed Vegeta with his index finger rather easily, and that's the way DC tends to write people with Frieza's showings of power at times. Unless you're going to tell me Superman is multiple times more powerful than Black Adam, Black Adam cannot destroy a star or sun eater.
Also, it took what for Superman to destroy a planet again? He hasn't, because he can't? The only thing you can show is him freezing the brain of a sun eater?
Originally posted by Cole Cash
Oh, so he flew into the brain of a sun eater and froze that?I thought he froze the whole thing.
And you are correct, his rogues are strong enough to present him with a challenge, though, most of them would get utterly destroyed by Frieza within seconds.
And Green Lantern was just the first type of energy projector that popped into my head, you could change it to Sinestro corpser or whatever.
He froze the brain of a sun-eater in space...
Darkseid would rape Frieza with so much ease.
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Originally posted by Cole Cash
Because Frieza held back, he destroyed Vegeta with his index finger rather easily, and that's the way DC tends to write people with Frieza's showings of power at times. Unless you're going to tell me Superman is multiple times more powerful than Black Adam, Black Adam cannot destroy a star or sun eater.Also, it took what for Superman to destroy a planet again? He hasn't, because he can't? The only thing you can show is him freezing the brain of a sun eater?
Why would Superman, someone that loves and admires all life destroy a planet? Same reason why Goku won't destroy a planet right?
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Why would Superman, someone that loves and admires all life destroy a planet? Same reason why Goku won't destroy a planet right?
Goku has shown to be multitudes more powerful than legit planet destroyers, Superman has not.
And I'd imagine Superman would destroy a planet in the same way he drilled through a moon or some such, punching a dead one out of existence.
Originally posted by Cole Cash
I'm pretty sure if the story called for it, Frieza would be more than capable of destroying a star or a sun-eater.Superman fanboys would probably treat it like they treat Master Roshi destroying the moon and ignore it, while loving every moment of Superman doing the same things.
So he can only destroy a star or a sun-eater if it's needed for plot?
Originally posted by Cole Cash
Well, calling Frieza more powerful than Superman on the sole basis that he can destroy a planet and Superman can not may be a tad bit pushing it, but it's just an emphasis to how powerful Frieza is in the grand scale of things. Frieza is about Superman level, you cannot name a being in DC with Frieza's showings that cannot give Superman a good tussle. Whereas we all know Frieza became a joke to Goku's power by the end of the series.Also, you cannot compare Goku with Superman in this instance, Goku has shown to be more powerful (leagues more powerful, actually) than a bonafide planet destroyer, the most you can say about Superman is that he's slightly more powerful than Frieza.
Unless you want to be an absolute wanker and ignore the vast majority of Superman's showings and the way the comics actually portray him.
There's at least two instances where Superman said he can destroy a planet with physical strength so to say he can't is false. Also, you can't just say Frieza would give Superman a fight just because he can destroy a planet. Not only do you gotta look at HOW he can destroy a planet (which was by a chain reaction) but you also gotta look at what kind of advantages he has. So far, the only advantage Frieza has over Superman is firepower and even that won't take down him down due Superman's greater durability. Yeah, Frieza's nowhere near Superman's level.
Where is your proof that Goku can destroy a more than a planet?
We always go by how Superman is portrayed in the comics.
Originally posted by Cole CashOh dear no, you are using Piccolo and Gohan's own speed and abilities to track it as proof of Freeza's own speed, your claim is the positive one, the burden of proof lies with you.
The onus of proof would be on you to prove Darkseid is as fast as Piccolo and Gohan, Darkseid's not very fast.
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
There's at least two instances where Superman said he can destroy a planet with physical strength so to say he can't is false.
Why? I've seen Superman fanboys cry for days about Cell's claim of solar system destruction (because it shows Gohan overpowering solar system destruction with one hand, and that'd be just too devastating a blow for them) so why should I treat Superman's claim any differently?
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
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Also, you can't just say Frieza would give Superman a fight just because he can destroy a planet.
Sure I can, list people in the DCU that have Frieza's showings but wouldn't give Superman a fight.
You can't do this, people with Frieza's showings are held with the same regard to power as Superman.
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
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Not only do you gotta look at HOW he can destroy a planet (which was by a chain reaction) but you also gotta look at what kind of advantages he has. So far, the only advantage Frieza has over Superman is firepower and even that won't take down him down.
Sure it will, Superman has been taken down by significantly less than Frieza firepower.
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
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Where is your proof that Goku can destroy a more than a planet?
Being more powerful than Frieza.
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
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We always go by how Superman is portrayed in the comics.
Then why are you acting like he goes around left and right slaughtering guys as powerful as Frieza?
Originally posted by NemeBro
Oh dear no, you are using Piccolo and Gohan's own speed and abilities to track it as proof of Freeza's own speed, your claim is the positive one, the burden of proof lies with you.
My claim is based on the notion that I've never seen anything that indicates Darkseid is faster than Captain America.
Now you prove that he is, let alone being as fast as Pic and Gohan were at that point in the story.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Now you're just running and you're going to lowball any feats we show like of him reacting to or keeping up with Superman, you'll just say that, that proves that Superman is slow when in reality he isn't.
So myself posting a plethora of scans of guys who wouldn't stand a chance at hitting Frieza hitting Superman doesn't prove anything at all?
Superman really is fast after all, he just gets hit because in the comics he's an idiot? That's how it works?
Originally posted by Cole Cash
My claim is based on the notion that I've never seen anything that indicates Darkseid is faster than Captain America.Now you prove that he is, let alone being as fast as Pic and Gohan were at that point in the story.
He only has a microsecond to react....
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Moves at unthinkable speeds...
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