Originally posted by iceman24567
Not at all Supermans feat >> causing a earthquake by using your feet.
Fast forward this to 4 minutes and 6 seconds.
Originally posted by iceman24567
Not at all Supermans feat >> causing a earthquake by using your feet.
Fast forward this to 4 minutes and 6 seconds.
Originally posted by carver9Impossible to say, Freeza doesn't show any strength feats really. And unlike Gokou, Gohan, Vegeta thing we don't know how Freeza got to be so powerful. Though he was really bulked up at full power. Who is stronger has nothing to do with what we were talking about with Freeza anyway.
So Goku was stronger?
Originally posted by Kento
Impossible to say, Freeza doesn't show any strength feats really. And unlike Gokou, Gohan, Vegeta thing we don't know how Freeza got to be so powerful. Though he was really bulked up at full power. Who is stronger has nothing to do with what we were talking about with Freeza anyway.
It has a lot to do with it and frieza has a lot of strength feats that revolves around him punching. The reason I asked if frieza was stronger was because of your previous comment. Again, Goku physically took more punishment than frieza and he still was 100% whereas frieza took less punishment and his powerlevel was fading. If his durability was so far above Goku, he would have withstood more and lasted longer than Goku, but he didnt. His durability played the part in him losing that fight, not Goku power because Goku didnt even shoot any blast throughout that fight, except that one Kamehameha.
Originally posted by carver9All of Freeza's 'strength' feats of him punching are punching a person that weighs 200 pounds around. Gokou kicked him into a parts of an island, and breaking off chunks of the island doing so. Freeza has nothing on that with any of his feats that aren't blasts.
It has a lot to do with it and frieza has a lot of strength feats that revolves around him punching. The reason I asked if frieza was stronger was because of your previous comment. Again, Goku physically took more punishment than frieza and he still was 100% whereas frieza took less punishment and his powerlevel was fading. If his durability was so far above Goku, he would have withstood more and lasted longer than Goku, but he didnt. His durability played the part in him losing that fight, not Goku power because Goku didnt even shoot any blast throughout that fight, except that one Kamehameha.
Gokou is known for his willpower. He can be beaten, and broken to an extent, and continue fighting until it's impossible for him to move. But he doesn't take more punishment than Freeza. He might take more punishment at first, but after Spirit Bomb then Freeza gets all the punishment, even getting cut in half, and blasted while having only half a body left, and then surviving a planet's explosion while he should be dead already. All Gokou's punishment was just being beaten up, and MAYBE one large blast that isn't really known if he got away from or tanked. A big part in Freeza loosing the fight was that Gokou was more powerful, and Freeza went and cut himself in half like an idiot.
Originally posted by Kento
All of Freeza's 'strength' feats of him punching are punching a person that weighs 200 pounds around. Gokou kicked him into a parts of an island, and breaking off chunks of the island doing so. Freeza has nothing on that with any of his feats that aren't blasts.Gokou is known for his willpower. He can be beaten, and broken to an extent, and continue fighting until it's impossible for him to move. But he doesn't take more punishment than Freeza. He might take more punishment at first, but after Spirit Bomb then Freeza gets all the punishment, even getting cut in half, and blasted while having only half a body left, and then surviving a planet's explosion while he should be dead already. All Gokou's punishment was just being beaten up, and MAYBE one large blast that isn't really known if he got away from or tanked. A big part in Freeza loosing the fight was that Gokou was more powerful, and Freeza went and cut himself in half like an idiot.
The shockwaves that frieza created when punching Goku is a strength feat and it was pretty obvious that frieza was physically stronger than Goku.
You must forgot that after the spirit bomb, frieza powered up to 100%. He regained all of his power so everything that happened before that was thrown out of the window unless you want to add everything that happened to Goku before his transformation to a super saiyan to his durability. Goku mentioned (after the physical beating and after punching frieza in the stomach) that frieza power was leaving him. Frieza was getting weaker, that is why frieza threw that distructo disk.
How I know that frieza and Goku was just as strong as each other is because Frieza and Goku locked arms TWICE and both times, frieza over powered Goku so again, frieza put more punishment on Goku physically (with punches) but Goku, who is just as strong strength wise as frieza, withstood more punishment physically than frieza which leads to goku being more durable.
😕 And Freeza's strength has nothing to do with durabilty. I never said Gokou or Freeza was stronger physically either. Just that Gokou has the better feat in their fight.
Powering up doesn't take away the fact you were beaten up, and hurt. Goes for 100% Freeza and SSJ Gokou. Loosing energy has what to do with durability?
The most Gokou took was punches....How does that put him about Freeza in durability? Freeza tanked Spirit Bomb, tanked x20 Kaioken Kamehameha, tanked destruction of about half an island by him just sliding into it, and while nearly dead tanked a planet exploding. Gokou wouldn't of survived a planets explosion, which is just enough to prove Gokou isn't as durable. Gokou has more will, and can move after his body shouldn't, like when he beat Piccolo with a huge hole in his chest. But Freeza's physiology makes him more durable...
Originally posted by Kento
😕 And Freeza's strength has nothing to do with durabilty. I never said Gokou or Freeza was stronger physically either. Just that Gokou has the better feat in their fight.Powering up doesn't take away the fact you were beaten up, and hurt. Goes for 100% Freeza and SSJ Gokou. Loosing energy has what to do with durability?
The most Gokou took was punches....How does that put him about Freeza in durability? Freeza tanked Spirit Bomb, tanked x20 Kaioken Kamehameha, tanked destruction of about half an island by him just sliding into it, and while nearly dead tanked a planet exploding. Gokou wouldn't of survived a planets explosion, which is just enough to prove Gokou isn't as durable. Gokou has more will, and can move after his body shouldn't, like when he beat Piccolo with a huge hole in his chest. But Freeza's physiology makes him more durable...
OMG, I really dont know where you are getting this from Kento.
Re: Re: ANIME Fighters VS AMERICAN Superheros
Originally posted by Final Blaxican
Who do you think would win in a fight between ANIME Fighters and AMERICAN Superheros?THIS WEEKS BATTLES
Goku VS Superman: Supes wins.
Vegeta VS Wolverine: vegeta wins, then Supes coems and tools him.
THE HULK VS Good Majin Buu: Buu hurls the hulk into the sun, then gets taken out by Supes.
Piccolo VS Blade: Piccolo wins, then gets hurled into the sun by Supes.
Naruto VS Robin : Tought to say..I'd give ti to NAruto though, then supes comes.
Van Helsing VS Spike:Helsing, maybe.
Flash VS Rock Lee: The flash WTD destroys Rock Lee
Batman VS Inuyasha: Batman wins by telling Inuyasha to sit.
Green Lantern VS Sasuke: Lantern destroys Sasuke.
Wonder Woman VS Android 18: Wonder Women, wins.
Daredevil VS Krillin: Krillin owns.
Fantastic Four VS Team Yusuke: Hm... I'd give it to Yusuke in this instance. They'd lose a few guys though.
Cyclops VS Kakashi Sensai: Kakashi MIGHT take this. Cyclops has a good chance to.
Elektra VS Sakura: Sakura has certain powers that would tool Elektra.
Spiderman VS Lupe: Spider-man owns.
Then Supes comes and kills all of them by sneezing on the planet, blowing it up, again.
No, I see no reason why Goku can't just punch a hole through Superman's flesh or blast him into pieces.
Goku's trained to fight opponents far more versatile than Superman, King Piccolo for example. I wouldn't doubt for a minute that Yamcha or Krillin could take Superman out without using ki. You don't seem to understand how powerful Z Fighters are, all of them.
Re: Re: Re: ANIME Fighters VS AMERICAN Superheros
Originally posted by MasterMyOwnMind
No, I see no reason why Goku can't just punch a hole through Superman's flesh or blast him into pieces.Goku's trained to fight opponents far more versatile than Superman, King Piccolo for example. I wouldn't doubt for a minute that Yamcha or Krillin could take Superman out without using ki. You don't seem to understand how powerful Z Fighters are, all of them.
You...never read any Superman comics, have you? 😐
Originally posted by carver9
The shockwaves that frieza created when punching Goku is a strength feat and it was pretty obvious that frieza was physically stronger than Goku.You must forgot that after the spirit bomb, frieza powered up to 100%. He regained all of his power so everything that happened before that was thrown out of the window unless you want to add everything that happened to Goku before his transformation to a super saiyan to his durability. Goku mentioned (after the physical beating and after punching frieza in the stomach) that frieza power was leaving him. Frieza was getting weaker, that is why frieza threw that distructo disk.
How I know that frieza and Goku was just as strong as each other is because Frieza and Goku locked arms TWICE and both times, frieza over powered Goku so again, frieza put more punishment on Goku physically (with punches) but Goku, who is just as strong strength wise as frieza, withstood more punishment physically than frieza which leads to goku being more durable.
Frieza's power level went up to 140 million tops, as a supersaiyan Goku's was 150 million. Put him in a room with cosmic level super heroes like SS and RKT and he would stand out as uber cosmic.
Re: Re: Re: ANIME Fighters VS AMERICAN Superheros
Originally posted by MasterMyOwnMind
No, I see no reason why Goku can't just punch a hole through Superman's flesh or blast him into pieces.Goku's trained to fight opponents far more versatile than Superman, King Piccolo for example. I wouldn't doubt for a minute that Yamcha or Krillin could take Superman out without using ki. You don't seem to understand how powerful Z Fighters are, all of them.
lol. Conversely, i think you're underestimating what Superman can withstand and dish out. How exactly would any DBZ character hurt Superman, or anyone of Superman's caliber? I think you peeps are getting swept away in how destructive DBZ characters powers are in relation to the world they live in. Just because Superman or other comic characters who have equal strength to him, can't crumble rocks by flexing their power, doesn't mean they're inferior.
Would you have me believe that Goku could beat Thor? or any of the class 100's? I've seen all DB characters have to offer and nothing suggests that they are on that level of strength. Please, stop confusing energy output, with actual, physical strength; the two are not one in the same.
Yes, because planets just explode by themselves without any sort of outside force, right?
If someone like Frieza detonated the planet, Superman would be within an inch of death. If Cell or Kid Buu did it, he'd be blown to smithereens. You don't seem to understand the scale at which these characters operate.
You don't seem to comprehend that anime characters and Comic book characters are on totally different levels. Take someone like Toguro from Yu Yu Hakusho... that dude was a beast in terms of pure strength, but in relation to a comic book character like Hulk, he was an ant.
Superman consistently shrugs off nukes to the face, i think he can handle a planetary explosion. Any energy blast a DBZ character throws at Supes (or Thor, Gladiator, or Darseid, etc) is just gonna get chucked aside because they're on a different level physically.
Originally posted by Tyrant
Yes, because planets just explode by themselves without any sort of outside force, right?If someone like Frieza detonated the planet, Superman would be within an inch of death. If Cell or Kid Buu did it, he'd be blown to smithereens. You don't seem to understand the scale at which these characters operate.
Yeah Ill go with that