Originally posted by Kento
You like to use that they know what they can take, and Gokou knew he'd die if he didn't find a ship to get away before it exploded.
I agree, he would have died and I honestly think it would have injured him just as badly as frieza was injured and if it didnt kill him, just like King Ki said, him not being able to survive in space would have finished him off.
Originally posted by Kento
Freeza's injuries came from Gokou.....
I know frieza injuries came from Goku but I am pretty sure that a planet destroying attack would have done SOMETHING to him. If Frieza was so much more durable than Goku, why was Goku hits having much more of an impact on Frieza than the other way around? Its pretty obvious they had the same strength since they locked arms twice, unable to move each other. Hell, frieza over powered Goku once when they locked arms but Goku punches did more physical damage to frieza than the other way around.
Originally posted by Kento
We have no idea what Freeza did to get as powerful as he is. Did I say Freeza was physically weaker than Gokou? I just said Freeza was more durable despite having a lower power level.
I know you didnt say that but again, Goku withstood more damage from frieza physically than Vice verse. Goku physically took more damage and withstood much more. For frieza to be so much more durable than him, he sure didnt prove it when he was in a physical confrontation and frieza hit Goku more.
Originally posted by Kento
Gokou stood up to a beating. That's really all he did. But Gokou's gotten up after having a large hole in him and still beat Piccolo. Freeza is the one who went through islands, and tanked the Spirit Bomb, and all that.
I agree, before Goku transformation, frieza was more durable than Goku but when both of them powered up to their max, Goku withstood MUCH more and still prevailed. Frieza physically got beaten by Goku whereas Goku withstood ALL of frieza physical attacks.
It was quite clear Goku was more durable than frieza. If Frieza was more durable, he would have won the fight.
Originally posted by carver9
What wont fly? We have no proof at all but I agree it would have injured him just as much as frieza injuries.
Originally posted by marwash22
Dude, give it up. You're never gonna convince this guy he's wrong 'cause he doesn't get the concept of durability vs. more powerful. If he did, he would understand that Superman would punch a hole through Goku's chest if they fought.
What me and Kento is discussing isnt about Superman vs Goku and when I know I am wrong, I admit to it. I admitted to Mike when he is right, I admitted to Kento when he is right, I have done this numerous of times because there is no reason for me to deny on panel facts.
By the way, Superman isnt punching a hole in Goku since Goku has taken far worse than what Superman can dish out. If we look at showings of hits, punches that each of them took then its pretty much safe to say that if anyone in punching a hole through someone, its going to be Goku punching a hole through Superman. I already told Kento that he was right about the blast being able to kill Goku, what I am trying to convince him of is that Frieza durability isnt>Goku when all in all, its not.
SSJ2 Goku would take Superman down with one strike. The same way SSJ2 Gohan took down each of the Cell Juniors, and casually punched a hole through Bojack. In fact, it would be even easier considering Superman's durability is not quite up to snuff with the Cell Juniors or Bojack.
Shit, SSJ3 Goku would probably kill Superman just by powering up.
Originally posted by iceman24567
Not at all Supermans feat >> causing a earthquake by using your feet.
And this is where we disagree. Goku and Superman use their strength in different fashions. Goku use his strength during combat whereas Superman goes around the world lifting things, etc... (also use it for combat purposes). But when things needed to be lifted Gohun as the Great Saya man lifted everything that came his way with ease; even a 300 passenger plane (with one hand).
I am basing this off of Goku's punching power. Goku punching power is far greater than Supermans. Hell, one time during Goku and friezas fight, Frieza was hitting Goku so hard that the shockwaves was destroying everything around them.
Originally posted by Tyrant
SSJ2 Goku would take Superman down with one strike. The same way SSJ2 Gohan took down each of the Cell Juniors, and casually punched a hole through Bojack. In fact, it would be even easier considering Superman's durability is not quite up to snuff with the Cell Juniors or Bojack.Shit, SSJ3 Goku would probably kill Superman just by powering up.
Everything that I have been debating about has only been with black hair Goku, anything above that is one shotting supes.