Originally posted by IppoDLuffy
dont get me wrong i like Sanji but http://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ult05p150id.jpg
lmfao.
So because ULTIMATE Captain America took a hit from Hulk, after drugging himself up like crazy, 616 Cap will beat a guy?
Context.
Originally posted by Final Blaxicanwell if magneto can break it apart on a milecular lvl then i would think that he could at least do that with a high energy balst. i mean thats basicly what the spirit bomb did to kid boo, so much energy that it broke the atoms that made up boo's body. so id think vageta would at least melt adamantium
I dunno if I agree or not. What have we seen break true adamanitum?
Genki Dama affects the spirit, it harms you depending on how much evil you have in your heart - completely different.
Magneto manipulated it by re-arranging the atoms, not blasting it with brute force of energy. Adamantium cannot melt, since it can only be cast when it is molten, and once it sets it will never melt again. In fact, it does not even conduct heat at all.
Originally posted by Endless Mikesell even so its still a win for vageta even if wolverine doesnt die, and as for goku vs cap america, thats just dumb, there is absolutely nothing he could do against him, all he has to do is look at him and he would vaporize
Magneto manipulated it by re-arranging the atoms, not blasting it with brute force of energy. Adamantium cannot melt, since it can only be cast when it is molten, and once it sets it will never melt again. In fact, it does not even conduct heat at all.
Captain America is peak human level above Batman. Power level in DBZ is a measure of ki (latent energy) power, so Captain America and Wolverine would have very low power levels.
If a normal man has a 5, Cap might have a 10, and Wolverine would have a 15-20. Something like that. However, it's Wolverine's abilities that make him supernaturally strong.
Cap couldn't hurt Goku, but Goku would definitely have to watch out for Wolverine's claws.
Originally posted by nij-ayias
Where did you get that? It was stated that genkidama can harm anyone but good person can bounce it off.
Actually, it said "It won't hurt you if you don't have any evil in your heart"
The implications are pretty clear.
sell even so its still a win for vageta even if wolverine doesnt die
Well yeah, BFR still works and last time I checked he can still be KO'd
There are lots of ways to beat Wolverine without killing him
If a normal man has a 5, Cap might have a 10
Actually I'd give him closer to a 50, based on some of the feats he's been able to pull off.
But anyway street level fighters shouldn't be fighting DBZ characters
Originally posted by niduin
sell even so its still a win for vageta even if wolverine doesnt die, and as for goku vs cap america, thats just dumb, there is absolutely nothing he could do against him, all he has to do is look at him and he would vaporize
There was never a question about that.
The point was CSdabest thought that if all of Wolverine's flesh was vaporized he couldn't regenerate, but he can.
The point is that Vegeta can knock Logan out or beat him by tossing him, but he can't kill him, and he can't destroy his adamantium.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Actually, it said "It won't hurt you if you don't have any evil in your heart"The implications are pretty clear.
Goku told Gohan that he is not evil and he can bounce it off, it was stated in the manga while your argument was not. Show me where it was stated that genkidama won't hurt a good person.
Originally posted by niduin
yeah i agree about the ademantium, but i think that if they really wanted to they could kill, just remove his head there are spaces between the vertibre so they could easily just rip his head off
This is possible, and Professor X mentioned it as a possible means to kill him (removing his head and keeping it separate from the body), however it's unclear whether only his bones are adamantium or the cartilage in between. Hulk was able to rip him in two in one story, but I'm not sure if that was cannon or not.
Originally posted by nij-ayias
Goku told Gohan that he is not evil and he can bounce it off, it was stated in the manga while your argument was not. Show me where it was stated that genkidama won't hurt a good person.
Obviously the fact that it can be deflected by a good person means it won't hurt them, otherwise it would explode/vaporize them when it hit.
This is possible, and Professor X mentioned it as a possible means to kill him (removing his head and keeping it separate from the body), however it's unclear whether only his bones are adamantium or the cartilage in between. Hulk was able to rip him in two in one story, but I'm not sure if that was cannon or not.
That was in the Ultimateverse, where his ligaments are not made of adamantium, whereas in 616 they are.
Wolverine was rippe din half by Hulk as you say and Apocolypse riped his arm of in the Ultimate Universe..Vegeta would tear him to peices if not just disintigrate him !!
Ultimate Wolverine is not 616 Wolverine. Ultimate Wolverine does not have adamantium ligaments like 616 wolverine does. Adamantium is indestructible to conventional force. The only thin in DBZ that could damage it is probably Buu's transmutation, since it is vulnerable to molecular manipulation.
Originally posted by Endless Mikeim sorry that just wouldnt make any sence, how could his ligaments be adamantium, he wouldnt be able to move, in the space between the vertebrei there is nothing to stop vageta from ripping him in half
Ultimate Wolverine is not 616 Wolverine. Ultimate Wolverine does not have adamantium ligaments like 616 wolverine does. Adamantium is indestructible to conventional force. The only thin in DBZ that could damage it is probably Buu's transmutation, since it is vulnerable to molecular manipulation.
