Ryu Hayabusa and Ayane vs Cloud Strife and Tifa Lockhart

Started by Superboy Prime9 pages
Originally posted by Kadesh
What do you suppose would happen if cloud performs the attack before hayabusa performs t his special attack?

...Ok I don't know where you're coming from. I already implied Cloud did the limit first and as a counter Ryu performed the Nimpo.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
...Ok I don't know where you're coming from. I already implied Cloud did the limit first and as a counter Ryu performed the Nimpo.
But would ryu know to do the nimpo as a counter attack?

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
It's not a matter of speed, but the effects that go along with the limit that make it not that clear. **** if I know I'm not a legendary SOLDIER like Sephiroth, but one thing's for sure Cloud would have been impaled through his forhead if I was Sephiroth.
you are saying that because you saw what happened, if you were in sephiroths shoes and know nothing about what isgoing to happen would you know what to do? i doubt it

Why would he not? It's a great defensive move.

Originally posted by Kadesh
you are saying that because you saw what happened, if you were in sephiroths shoes and know nothing about what isgoing to happen would you know what to do? i doubt it

No I said that if I was Sephiroth Cloud would been dead before he even thought about his loved ones and the limit break. Instead of stabbing him through the shoulder I would've done so in his forhead.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Why would he not? It's a great defensive move.

Again i said thats only if ryu can pull it off in time, before cloud does the final parts ofthe 5 fold attack, if he is able to pull it off before cloud, he wins, if he doesnt, then cloud wins fair enough?

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
No I said that if I was Sephiroth Cloud would been dead before he even thought about his loved ones and the limit break. Instead of stabbing him through the shoulder I would've done so in his forhead.
now thats the sephiroth we been waiting for

Originally posted by Kadesh
Wow you really are a hypocrite, well now i would say fictional, And if you were that smart you would have asked earlier am i correct?

Are you mentally handicaped, You claimed it was possible to dodge a bullet if you knew what direction it was coming from. You never distinguished between real or fiction people until far afterwards.

Originally posted by Kadesh

Who cared who could see it, sephiroth was caught off guard

So, if sephiroth could see it, how was he caught off gaurd?

Originally posted by Kadesh

It depends what sort of attack, in this situation how would haya know what cloud is going to do?

I pretty sure If I see someone draw a blade in a fight he's going to strike me with it.

Originally posted by Kadesh

How would haya know what the hell is that attack because he has never seen anything like that before?

He constantly avoides attacks he's never seen before, moot point.

Originally posted by Kadesh

Do you think haya would know how to defend against this when he would now know [B]which sword strikes first
? [/B]

He doesn't have to know which sword strikes first, he'll just evade them as they come. He's fast enought to do that.

He can definitely pull it off in time. Sephiroth had all the time in the world to get out of the situation and yet he did not. The problem with the omnislash is that the swords take their time align around the victim, if they don't react ala Sephiroth they're through, but I don't see the same PISified thing happen to Ryu.

Thing is it doesn't take a genius to see 5 swords surrounding you is not a good thing.

I find it funny that kadesh believes hayabusa can't dodge omnislash when he dodged this:

http://www.iberiansngrealm.com/Boss%20Pages/Boss_Emperors.html

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Are you mentally handicaped, You claimed it was possible to dodge a bullet if you knew what direction it was coming from. You never distinguished between real or fiction people until far afterwards.
Neither did you, you asked, i answered

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar

So, if sephiroth could see it, how was he caught off gaurd?
Could he see which sword was going to strike first?

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar

I pretty sure If I see someone draw a blade in a fight he's going to strike me with it.
Duh, im talking if the other guy makes the first moves

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar

He constantly avoides attacks he's never seen before, moot point.
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Really? does that mean he will evade clouds attacks?

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar

He doesn't have to know which sword strikes first, he'll just evade them as they come. He's fast enought to do that.
Yes he does, he would have to know where to move, and what if he did not know there was a sword behind him and as he turns clouds there with that sword and then strikes him?

He doesn't need to know which sword is first. He just needs to follow Cloud. The swords by themselves will do nothing.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
He doesn't need to know which sword is first. He just needs to follow Cloud. The swords by themselves will do nothing.
fair enough but would he know weather cloud is going to move left or right to get either sword?

Originally posted by Kadesh
Neither did you, you asked, i answered

I never claimed or implyed that a real person can dodge a bullet, moron.

Originally posted by Kadesh

Could he see which sword was going to strike first?

Why would it matter if according to you sephiroth and the audience could see the attack?

Originally posted by Kadesh

Duh, im talking if the other guy makes the first moves

So, your implying that no one has ever dodged an unexpected attack? Nevermind that I showed you ryu hayabusa doing that twice?

Originally posted by Kadesh

Really? does that mean he will evade clouds attacks?

I'm pretty sure he can, since he dodges pre meditaited attacks all the time.

Originally posted by Kadesh

Yes he does, he would have to know where to move, and what if he did not know there was a sword behind him and as he turns clouds there with that sword and then strikes him?

He would he not know where the swords are, are they invisible?

Originally posted by Kadesh
fair enough but would he know weather cloud is going to move left or right to get either sword?

He would be following Cloud's movement, for Ryu that won't be too hard.

I'm going to sleep now I got an early start tomorrow. Night you 2.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
I never claimed or implyed that a real person can dodge a bullet, moron.
Yes you did, stop contradicting yourself, you asked if I could dodge a bullet, "I" is me "me" is a real person. Shoul i report you for trolling then? no flaming remember?

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar

Why would it matter if according to you sephiroth and the audience could see the attack?.
Why would it matter if either ryu or sephiroth could not tell which sword was going to strike first

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar

So, your implying that no one has ever dodged an unexpected attack? Nevermind that I showed you ryu hayabusa doing that twice?
I wont deny that suprise attacks can be countered, provided the victim has enough reaction time which in this case, ryu does not and will not have enough reaction time

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar

I'm pretty sure he can, since he dodges pre meditaited attacks all the time.
i dont think so, not when he does not know which sword is going to strike first

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar

He would he not know where the swords are, are they invisible?
read my posts properly, i said he would now know which is the first one to strike

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
He would be following Cloud's movement, for Ryu that won't be too hard.

I'm going to sleep now I got an early start tomorrow. Night you 2.

You are assuming if he follows his movements, remember, if cloud striked before haya reacts cloud wins, and haya can react provided there is time to react then win cloud, agreeable?

Originally posted by Kadesh
Yes you did, stop contradicting yourself, you asked if I could dodge a bullet, "I" is me "me" is a real person. Shoul i report you for trolling then? no flaming remember?

I know I asked if you could dodge a bullet, because you claimed it was possible to dodge one if you knew the direction. You never said distinguished between real or fictional.You even said you don't posses the skill to dodge one implying somewhere someone in real life could.

Originally posted by Kadesh

Why would it matter if either ryu or sephiroth could not tell which sword was going to strike first

Who cares what sword will strike first, at the speed ryu moves he could dodge it becfore it strikes. Sephiroth was hit because of PIS.

Originally posted by Kadesh

I wont deny that suprise attacks can be countered, provided the victim has enough reaction time which in this case, ryu does not and will not have enough reaction time

He doesn't have enough reaction time to dodge swords but can dodge bullets from multiple directions at once, does that make sense?!

Originally posted by Kadesh

i dont think so, not when he does not know which sword is going to strike first

Who ****ing cares what sword strikes first, if he's fast enough to dodge it he can dodge it,end.

Originally posted by Kadesh

read my posts properly, i said he would now know which is the first one to strike

And like I said it does not matter what strikes first. because he has the speed to dodge them.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
I know I asked if you could dodge a bullet, because you claimed it was possible to dodge one if you knew the direction. You never said distinguished between real or fictional.You even said you don't posses the skill to dodge one implying somewhere someone in real life could. And were you not intelligent enough to tell that i distinguised it as fiction? i was refering "I" to hayabusa
but i first said a shield can block it right? then you asked me if i could with a katana, then i said no am i correct? then i pointed out that haya can because he 1) is a game character 2) has the skills to do so

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar

Who cares what sword will strike first, at the speed ryu moves he could dodge it becfore it strikes. Sephiroth was hit because of PIS.
wow so you are claiming that ryu can move faster than the speed of light because he can move faster than cloud?

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar

He doesn't have enough reaction time to dodge swords but can dodge bullets from multiple directions at once, does that make sense?!
Did you read my earlier posts? i said he had enough time to react to the helicopters presence before the helicopter or planes started firing
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar

Who ****ing cares what sword strikes first, if he's fast enough to dodge it he can dodge it,end.
provided he is fast enough, provided BEFORE he gets hit

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar

And like I said it does not matter what strikes first. because he has the speed to dodge them.
Dodge them like how? alreaady when cloud opens the attack?