Originally posted by Superboy Primeyou are saying that because you saw what happened, if you were in sephiroths shoes and know nothing about what isgoing to happen would you know what to do? i doubt it
It's not a matter of speed, but the effects that go along with the limit that make it not that clear. **** if I know I'm not a legendary SOLDIER like Sephiroth, but one thing's for sure Cloud would have been impaled through his forhead if I was Sephiroth.
Originally posted by Kadesh
you are saying that because you saw what happened, if you were in sephiroths shoes and know nothing about what isgoing to happen would you know what to do? i doubt it
No I said that if I was Sephiroth Cloud would been dead before he even thought about his loved ones and the limit break. Instead of stabbing him through the shoulder I would've done so in his forhead.
Originally posted by Kadesh
Wow you really are a hypocrite, well now i would say fictional, And if you were that smart you would have asked earlier am i correct?
Originally posted by Kadesh
Who cared who could see it, sephiroth was caught off guard
So, if sephiroth could see it, how was he caught off gaurd?
Originally posted by Kadesh
It depends what sort of attack, in this situation how would haya know what cloud is going to do?
I pretty sure If I see someone draw a blade in a fight he's going to strike me with it.
Originally posted by Kadesh
How would haya know what the hell is that attack because he has never seen anything like that before?
He constantly avoides attacks he's never seen before, moot point.
Originally posted by Kadesh
Do you think haya would know how to defend against this when he would now know [B]which sword strikes first ? [/B]
He doesn't have to know which sword strikes first, he'll just evade them as they come. He's fast enought to do that.
He can definitely pull it off in time. Sephiroth had all the time in the world to get out of the situation and yet he did not. The problem with the omnislash is that the swords take their time align around the victim, if they don't react ala Sephiroth they're through, but I don't see the same PISified thing happen to Ryu.
I find it funny that kadesh believes hayabusa can't dodge omnislash when he dodged this:
http://www.iberiansngrealm.com/Boss%20Pages/Boss_Emperors.html
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarNeither did you, you asked, i answered
Are you mentally handicaped, You claimed it was possible to dodge a bullet if you knew what direction it was coming from. You never distinguished between real or fiction people until far afterwards.
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarCould he see which sword was going to strike first?
So, if sephiroth could see it, how was he caught off gaurd?
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarDuh, im talking if the other guy makes the first moves
I pretty sure If I see someone draw a blade in a fight he's going to strike me with it.
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarReally? does that mean he will evade clouds attacks?
He constantly avoides attacks he's never seen before, moot point.
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Originally posted by Emperor AshtarYes he does, he would have to know where to move, and what if he did not know there was a sword behind him and as he turns clouds there with that sword and then strikes him?
He doesn't have to know which sword strikes first, he'll just evade them as they come. He's fast enought to do that.
Originally posted by Kadesh
Neither did you, you asked, i answered
I never claimed or implyed that a real person can dodge a bullet, moron.
Originally posted by Kadesh
Could he see which sword was going to strike first?
Why would it matter if according to you sephiroth and the audience could see the attack?
Originally posted by Kadesh
Duh, im talking if the other guy makes the first moves
Originally posted by Kadesh
Really? does that mean he will evade clouds attacks?
I'm pretty sure he can, since he dodges pre meditaited attacks all the time.
Originally posted by Kadesh
Yes he does, he would have to know where to move, and what if he did not know there was a sword behind him and as he turns clouds there with that sword and then strikes him?
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarYes you did, stop contradicting yourself, you asked if I could dodge a bullet, "I" is me "me" is a real person. Shoul i report you for trolling then? no flaming remember?
I never claimed or implyed that a real person can dodge a bullet, moron.
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarWhy would it matter if either ryu or sephiroth could not tell which sword was going to strike first
Why would it matter if according to you sephiroth and the audience could see the attack?.
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarI wont deny that suprise attacks can be countered, provided the victim has enough reaction time which in this case, ryu does not and will not have enough reaction time
So, your implying that no one has ever dodged an unexpected attack? Nevermind that I showed you ryu hayabusa doing that twice?
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtari dont think so, not when he does not know which sword is going to strike first
I'm pretty sure he can, since he dodges pre meditaited attacks all the time.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtarread my posts properly, i said he would now know which is the first one to strike
He would he not know where the swords are, are they invisible?
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeYou are assuming if he follows his movements, remember, if cloud striked before haya reacts cloud wins, and haya can react provided there is time to react then win cloud, agreeable?
He would be following Cloud's movement, for Ryu that won't be too hard.I'm going to sleep now I got an early start tomorrow. Night you 2.
Originally posted by Kadesh
Yes you did, stop contradicting yourself, you asked if I could dodge a bullet, "I" is me "me" is a real person. Shoul i report you for trolling then? no flaming remember?
I know I asked if you could dodge a bullet, because you claimed it was possible to dodge one if you knew the direction. You never said distinguished between real or fictional.You even said you don't posses the skill to dodge one implying somewhere someone in real life could.
Originally posted by Kadesh
Why would it matter if either ryu or sephiroth could not tell which sword was going to strike first
Originally posted by Kadesh
I wont deny that suprise attacks can be countered, provided the victim has enough reaction time which in this case, ryu does not and will not have enough reaction time
He doesn't have enough reaction time to dodge swords but can dodge bullets from multiple directions at once, does that make sense?!
Originally posted by Kadesh
i dont think so, not when he does not know which sword is going to strike first
Originally posted by Kadesh
read my posts properly, i said he would now know which is the first one to strike
And like I said it does not matter what strikes first. because he has the speed to dodge them.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtarbut i first said a shield can block it right? then you asked me if i could with a katana, then i said no am i correct? then i pointed out that haya can because he 1) is a game character 2) has the skills to do so
I know I asked if you could dodge a bullet, because you claimed it was possible to dodge one if you knew the direction. You never said distinguished between real or fictional.You even said you don't posses the skill to dodge one implying somewhere someone in real life could. And were you not intelligent enough to tell that i distinguised it as fiction? i was refering "I" to hayabusa
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtarwow so you are claiming that ryu can move faster than the speed of light because he can move faster than cloud?
Who cares what sword will strike first, at the speed ryu moves he could dodge it becfore it strikes. Sephiroth was hit because of PIS.
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarDid you read my earlier posts? i said he had enough time to react to the helicopters presence before the helicopter or planes started firing
He doesn't have enough reaction time to dodge swords but can dodge bullets from multiple directions at once, does that make sense?!
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtarprovided he is fast enough, provided BEFORE he gets hit
Who ****ing cares what sword strikes first, if he's fast enough to dodge it he can dodge it,end.
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarDodge them like how? alreaady when cloud opens the attack?
And like I said it does not matter what strikes first. because he has the speed to dodge them.