Originally posted by Juntai
It's still one of his powers regardless of how he decides to use it in application. He's proven he can use it as such. In fact, it's not his only discipline either, Torqasm Rao is another, I believe there's another after that too.
Originally posted by darthgoober
As I said, that may be, but it was never pointed out that way(at least in the scans on the respect thread). T-Vo's effects have been inconsistent to say the least(depending on the writer), so unless it's specifically stated to be as such we can't reasonably assume that to be the case.If we're talking about the same instance, then Eradicator WASN'T under Supes will. Supes created a giant illusion and Eradicator created the same to combat it, that's hardly the effect that Supes used on Dominus when he was given time. Then again, you may be talking of another instance that wasn't displayed on the respect thread, in which case I stand corrected. If so, I would appreciate it if someone could post scans of it, so that I might have a better understanding of it's effects.
That may be true, I was just pointing it out because you asked.
He doesn't even have to warp reality against Spider-man. He could do it just as quickly as he did against Eradicator that would give him the win.
He has a lot more Kryptonian mental disciplines than T-Vo as well. There's Rao and others...
Originally posted by batdude123Not like punching him unconscious wouldn't work either. It works fine on Surfer. Supes certainly has the strength to do it.
He doesn't even have to warp reality against Spider-man. He could do it just as quickly as he did against Eradicator that would give him the win.He has a lot more Kryptonian mental disciplines than T-Vo as well. There's Rao and others...
Originally posted by darthgooberNot that he couldn't buy time with his famous damage soak, which is one of the most impressive of all heros..
I'm not saying that he can't use it. Only that he shouldn't be assumed to be able to pull off what he did on Dominus unless he's given the time to do so. If he's not, then illusions is as far as it goes.
Originally posted by batdude123
He doesn't even have to warp reality against Spider-man. He could do it just as quickly as he did against Eradicator that would give him the win.He has a lot more Kryptonian mental disciplines than T-Vo as well. There's Rao and others...
Also, remember that I'm not giving Spidey 10/10, I said earlier that Supes could pull a couple of wins.
Originally posted by darthgoober
If he did what he did with Eradicator, all he would do is create an illusion. That's not an instant win. CS's enhanced spidey sense would tell him the difference between what was real and what was illusionary.Also, remember that I'm not giving Spidey 10/10, I said earlier that Supes could pull a couple of wins.
It wouldn't if he was INSIDE Spider-man's mind.
And there are other things besides Vo...
Originally posted by darthgooberGot proof?
If he did what he did with Eradicator, all he would do is create an illusion. That's not an instant win. CS's enhanced spidey sense would tell him the difference between what was real and what was illusionary.
The threat is certainly real as is the damage the illusions do.. Notice how instead of ignoring it, Eradicator directly moved to confront it?
I'd hope you'd know better.
Also, remember that I'm not giving Spidey 10/10, I said earlier that Supes could pull a couple of wins. [/B]
Originally posted by batdude123
It wouldn't if he was INSIDE Spider-man's mind.And there are other things besides Vo...
And someone will have to explain to me about these other disciplines, because I know nothing of them.
Originally posted by darthgoober
And when has he ever just jumped inside of someone's mind as quickly as he produced the Eradicator illusion(I'm honestly unaware)?And someone will have to explain to me about these other disciplines, because I know nothing of them.
If he can do it, it's a legitimate tactic to use on the forums.
Originally posted by Juntai
Got proof?The threat is certainly real as is the damage the illusions do.. Notice how instead of ignoring it, Eradicator directly moved to confront it?
Now here are the scans that have been provided...
Now if anyone else has any other scans that the threat, or damage is real, I'll be more than willing to accept them. But from the scans that I have access to, all I see is Supes referring to it as a phantom. I also see that even though Supes was able to do it faster than he did with Dominus, he STILL needed to take the time to center himself and prepare the effect. Also, I see Supes stating that he has to stay calm and concentrate, which is going to be extremely difficult with Spidey blasting away on him.
Once again, I'll accept any other proof anyone is able to provide, I 'm just working with what's been displayed on the respect thread.
Originally posted by batdude123i'm not pulling anythig outta anywhere red solr rays are one of his weaknesses right? so by these forum rules any oppnent knowing about it could use it agianst him and seeing how there's not PIS CIS here he will be effected by it.... unless the thread stater states otherwise which he hasnt......
Where did it say anything about red sun radiation? You just pulled that out of your ass 'cause it isn't in the forum rules.Oh, and I'm talking to Tron about it.
Btw, Superman's sonic attack could prove to f*ck up Spider-man's cosmic spider-sense pretty bad.
He can punch him, outspeed him, HV (full power) him, Sonic him, Vibrate intanbible and invisible, freeze and toss him to the sun..etc.
Spidey's durability and strength even increased by 50 doesn't put him close to Superman class even though it was still impressive.
Remember, Superman is at his best as well, and that is power not to be trifled with.
Cosmic Spidey hasn't even been shown to be in class with a jobbing Eradicator yet nevertheless a fully powered one.
