Cosmic Spiderman vs Superman

Started by lando00533 pages

Originally posted by batdude123
It's not the same thing.

His molecules actually move so fast that they interfere with the bonds that hold atoms together.

his atoms still pass through other atoms nomatter how fast they are moving

Originally posted by lando005
his atoms still pass through other atoms nomatter how fast they are moving

That's a no-brainer. I'm simply pointing out it's not the same thing.

Originally posted by batdude123
That's a no-brainer. I'm simply pointing out it's not the same thing.
but it is his atoms are still passing through matter the only diffrence is the way he goes about achiveing his intagability the effect is still the same

Originally posted by lando005
but it is his atoms are still passing through matter the only diffrence is the way he goes about achiveing his intagability the effect is still the same

Intangibility is intangibility. What you're saying is that they both pass their atoms through matter. That's correct, however there's a difference. He vibrates his molecules through matter disrupting the atom's bonds, while she simply slides her atom's through the space inbetween...

Originally posted by batdude123
Intangibility is intangibility. What you're saying is that they both pass their atoms through matter. That's correct, however there's a difference. He vibrates his molecules through matter disrupting the atom's bonds, while she simply slides her atom's through the space inbetween...
your talking about how they achive their intagibility which is correct and fine but the effect is still the same also if he is disbursting the bonds between the atoms of whatever he's phasing through he would be causing that object damage destabilizing the object on a molecular level and degradeing the structural intergity of the object

Originally posted by lando005
your talking about how they achive their intagibility which is correct and fine but the effect is still the same also if he is disbursting the bonds between the atoms of whatever he's phasing through he would be causing that object damage destabilizing the object on a molecular level and degradeing the structural intergity of the object

The effect is the same. The way in which they achieve the means of intangibility is different. That's all I was saying.

He's vibrate himself out of the adamantium box and the fight would continue.

Originally posted by batdude123
The effect is the same. The way in which they achieve the means of intangibility is different. That's all I was saying.
now your agreeing with me, anyways that's just one of the things cs could do and if the addy tomb is skin tight i dont think he'lda have enough room to vibrate.. or speaking of vibrate he could always incase him in vibranium

Originally posted by lando005
now your agreeing with me, anyways that's just one of the things cs could do and if the addy tomb is skin tight i dont think he'lda have enough room to vibrate.. or speaking of vibrate he could always incase him in vibranium

In case of vibranium, he could simply use heat vision that is "incalcuably hot" to get himself out.

Originally posted by batdude123
Do you know WHY it took so long on Dominus? Because he comes from magical decent, was an abstract-level character, and was nigh-omnipotent in terms of telepathy and telekinesis and all that other jazz. Superman wouldn't take so long on Cosmic Spider-man.

That's all very possible, but the fact remains that there's no proof that he could utilize T-Vo to the extent he did with Dominus unless he's given time. In his fastest showing(against the Eradicator) the most he did was create a large illusion. So we can't reasonably assume he could use it to it's max as quickly as he did with the Eradicator until he actually does so.

Originally posted by batdude123
Like how Superman was completely pumped full of kryptonite and was still very much invulnerable? And what I want to know is... how the f*ck is CS going to know to use k-nite against Superman? 🤨

Originally posted by batdude123
Like the matter manipulators Superman has gone up against before haven't tried something similar to that? 🤨 Superman is damn near IMMUNE to transmutation.

And please answer the question..... how is someone who has NEVER met Superman (canonically speaking) going to know to use kryptonite on him???

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The Forum rules regarding 'Basic Knowledge' SPECIFICALLY mention that opponents know about his weakness to K-nite.

Keep in mind, I still give him a win or two(possibly 3 depending on which writers version of Supes we're talking about), but I can't really see CS winning any less than 7/10.

Originally posted by darthgoober
That's all very possible, but the fact remains that there's no proof that he could utilize T-Vo to the extent he did with Dominus unless he's given time. In his fastest showing(against the Eradicator) the most he did was create a large illusion. So we can't reasonably assume he could use it to it's max as quickly as he did with the Eradicator until he actually does so.

The Forum rules regarding 'Basic Knowledge' SPECIFICALLY mention that opponents know about his weakness to K-nite.

Keep in mind, I still give him a win or two(possibly 3 depending on which writers version of Supes we're talking about), but I can't really see CS winning any less than 7/10.


Your rational thought is driving me crazy! 🤪 Do me a favor and go on a fanboy rant every now and then. 😠

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Originally posted by Badabing
Your rational thought is driving me crazy! 🤪 Do me a favor and go on a fanboy rant every now and then. 😠

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The funny thing is that over the past couple of weeks I've actually been accused of being a fanboy of Marvel, DC, and the Phoenix by different people.

Originally posted by batdude123
In case of vibranium, he could simply use heat vision that is "incalcuably hot" to get himself out.
somehow i dont see heatvision getting him outta vibranium any time soon

Originally posted by batdude123
Whether you disagree with it or not, it's happening rather frequently in comics as to where it isn't "PIS" anymore. So, I think that should at least give him 4-5/10 right there.

I hate to point this out, but if frequency negated PIS, then the fact that Flash fights last longer than they should, wouldn't be considered PIS either(because it happens in the majority of his books), and Supes NOT using superspeed or having a hard time with people like Toyman would be valid. PIS can happen EVERY book just about, and still be classified as such.

I'm only pointing this out, because there's been an increase of people that want to ignore PIS based feats, based on the frequency of the event as of late.

Originally posted by batdude123
Whether you disagree with it or not, it's happening rather frequently in comics as to where it isn't "PIS" anymore. So, I think that should at least give him 4-5/10 right there.
Never said anything about disagreeing, just that they have the capabilities regardless of what writers do.

PIS is not contingent on consistency. Flash has consistently been hit by slower things than he should, so why do we argue "Flash speedblitz" if he never does it in the comics? It doesn't work both ways my friend.

2 good posts, but you guys are forgetting the golden rule of DC. PIS is cool as long as it's in favor of Supes.

Originally posted by batdude123
Like how Superman was completely pumped full of kryptonite and was still very much invulnerable? And what I want to know is... how the f*ck is CS going to know to use k-nite against Superman? 🤨
Cosmic awareness. Also Spidey can incase him in K and then Adamantium. Spidey's just got more options. I think he can Siphon off Supes Energy too. I remeber Supes whining to some guy about "If you Siphon off my solar energy, you'll kill me". Wuss!

Originally posted by brainchild81
Cosmic awareness.

And don't forget that it's actually mentioned in the forum rules that his opponents know about K-nite.

Ditto. & there are different types he could make too. Supes is f**ked

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Superman wins.

Cosmic Spidey is nothing Supes hasn't dealt with many times.

Spidey's greatest feat was defeating Tri-Sentinel.

Apparently, you don't know the extent of Superman.

What feat exactly has Spidey pulled that puts him in league with Supes?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Apparently, you don't know the extent of Superman.

What feat exactly has Spidey pulled that puts him in league with Supes?

and apperantly you dont know the full extent of cs

Originally posted by lando005
and apperantly you dont know the full extent of cs

In other words, you have no proof on anything then. 😉