Originally posted by darthgoober
That's all very possible, but the fact remains that there's no proof that he could utilize T-Vo to the extent he did with Dominus unless he's given time. In his fastest showing(against the Eradicator) the most he did was create a large illusion. So we can't reasonably assume he could use it to it's max as quickly as he did with the Eradicator until he actually does so.
He took so long to utilize it against Dominus because he's an abstract-level character who is as immuned to telepathy as any other person in comics basically.
And what's the difference how he used it against Eradicator when he did so immediately? The fact of the matter is that it WAS in affect, and Eradicator was under Superman's will. I don't see how CS would be any different.
Originally posted by darthgoober
The Forum rules regarding 'Basic Knowledge' SPECIFICALLY mention that opponents know about his weakness to K-nite.Keep in mind, I still give him a win or two(possibly 3 depending on which writers version of Supes we're talking about), but I can't really see CS winning any less than 7/10.
I know. It's a stupid rule imo.
Originally posted by darthgoober
I hate to point this out, but if frequency negated PIS, then the fact that Flash fights last longer than they should, wouldn't be considered PIS either(because it happens in the majority of his books), and Supes NOT using superspeed or having a hard time with people like Toyman would be valid. PIS can happen EVERY book just about, and still be classified as such.I'm only pointing this out, because there's been an increase of people that want to ignore PIS based feats, based on the frequency of the event as of late.
I'm sorry, but there's just something flawed about discrediting Superman's countless wins against characters higher up than Cosmic Spider-man. 😬
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
In other words, you have no proof on anything then. 😉
Originally posted by batdude123whenever it works against dc right?
He took so long to utilize it against Dominus because he's an abstract-level character who is as immuned to telepathy as any other person in comics basically.And what's the difference how he used it against Eradicator when he did so immediately? The fact of the matter is that it WAS in affect, and Eradicator was under Superman's will. I don't see how CS would be any different.
I know. It's a stupid rule imo.
Originally posted by Sam ZSorry but there's not many characters in all of comic-dom that can hope of pulling 10/10 on Supes.
It's been mentioned that Spider-man knows how to use his powers, so he'd clearly win 10/10 and without much trouble.
Given what was said in the beginning, Supes is going to be just as dangerous, utilizing full power from the get-go, all he has to do is touch Spidey and it's lights out.
What did Cosmic Spidey do to give anyone the impression he would beat Supes?
Don't give me that Kryptonite Ray or Red Sun crap either, because characters try it every other issue, it's a fraud. It doesn't work. Last full arc he ended up taking on a planet devistating galactic warship laced entirely throughout it's body with kryptonite. What did Supes do? Speedblitzed it, grabbed the baddie, and kicked his ass.
Originally posted by lando005
they are in these forums so why are you complaining about cs knowing about k-nite and red solar radiation?
Where did it say anything about red sun radiation? You just pulled that out of your ass 'cause it isn't in the forum rules.
Oh, and I'm talking to Tron about it.
Btw, Superman's sonic attack could prove to f*ck up Spider-man's cosmic spider-sense pretty bad.
Originally posted by Juntai
Sorry but there's not many characters in all of comic-dom that can hope of pulling 10/10 on Supes.Given what was said in the beginning, Supes is going to be just as dangerous, utilizing full power from the get-go, all he has to do is touch Spidey and it's lights out.
What did Cosmic Spidey do to give anyone the impression he would beat Supes?
Don't give me that Kryptonite Ray or Red Sun crap either, because characters try it every other issue, it's a fraud. It doesn't work. Last full arc he ended up taking on a planet devistating galactic warship laced entirely throughout it's body with kryptonite. What did Supes do? Speedblitzed it, grabbed the baddie, and kicked his ass.
He also beat Eclipso while being exposed to k-nite and red sun radiation at the same time.
Originally posted by batdude123
He took so long to utilize it against Dominus because he's an abstract-level character who is as immuned to telepathy as any other person in comics basically.And what's the difference how he used it against Eradicator when he did so immediately? The fact of the matter is that it WAS in affect, and Eradicator was under Superman's will. I don't see how CS would be any different.
If we're talking about the same instance, then Eradicator WASN'T under Supes will. Supes created a giant illusion and Eradicator created the same to combat it, that's hardly the effect that Supes used on Dominus when he was given time. Then again, you may be talking of another instance that wasn't displayed on the respect thread, in which case I stand corrected. If so, I would appreciate it if someone could post scans of it, so that I might have a better understanding of it's effects.
Originally posted by batdude123 I know. It's a stupid rule imo. [/B]
Originally posted by batdude123
I'm sorry, but there's just something flawed about discrediting Superman's countless wins against characters higher up than Cosmic Spider-man. 😬
Originally posted by darthgooberIt's still one of his powers regardless of how he decides to use it in application. He's proven he can use it as such. In fact, it's not his only discipline either, Torqasm Rao is another, I believe there's another after that too.
As I said, that may be, but it was never pointed out that way(at least in the scans on the respect thread). T-Vo's effects have been inconsistent to say the least(depending on the writer), so unless it's specifically stated to be as such we can't reasonably assume that to be the case.If we're talking about the same instance, then Eradicator WASN'T under Supes will. Supes created a giant illusion and Eradicator created the same to combat it, that's hardly the effect that Supes used on Dominus when he was given time. Then again, you may be talking of another instance that wasn't displayed on the respect thread, in which case I stand corrected. If so, I would appreciate it if someone could post scans of it, so that I might have a better understanding of it's effects.
That may be true, I was just pointing it out because you asked.
Originally posted by Juntai✅
Sorry but there's not many characters in all of comic-dom that can hope of pulling 10/10 on Supes.Given what was said in the beginning, Supes is going to be just as dangerous, utilizing full power from the get-go, all he has to do is touch Spidey and it's lights out.
What did Cosmic Spidey do to give anyone the impression he would beat Supes?
Don't give me that Kryptonite Ray or Red Sun crap either, because characters try it every other issue, it's a fraud. It doesn't work. Last full arc he ended up taking on a planet devistating galactic warship laced entirely throughout it's body with kryptonite. What did Supes do? Speedblitzed it, grabbed the baddie, and kicked his ass.