Hmmm. Okay, so I just read this entire thread. Whew...fascinating stuff, though.
Anyway, this subject maybe be tired to death, but I haven't heard this theory in this thread (perhaps it's in others...I've been gone a long time). So here's what a few of my friends and myself think is a possibility (and yes, we know it's farfetched):
Harry is a Horcrux, but he was made one unintentionally. Voldemort was all set and ready to perform the curse for his final one when he killed the potters, so perhaps by some crazy twist of fate, when avada kedavra was performed, it not only was sent back to Voldemort, but the horcrux was placed in Harry.
Now with this theory in mind, I'm still not quite sure why Voldemort would try to kill Harry in past books, unless he knows some way to extract the horcrux and place it on another target. Who knows. Don't bash me for this idea, because it's probably wrong, but I though I'd throw it out there.
Also, no matter how much we all want him to come back to life, and not matter how convincing that website is, Dumbledore coming back to life seems so utterly pointless at this point. He died because Harry no longer needed him; because he was only going to tie him down, and I think he might've known his time was coming -- that's why he taught Harry so much in HBP.
Once again, this is all speculation, so butcher these ideas away.
I like the way you made your points politely and objectively... it made me actually want to read what you've written and listen, rather than just tell you you're wrong 😉
I like that theory, even though it directly opposes mine. But I imagine any of us could be right, or all of us could be way off. We'll have to wait for the 7th book but in the meanwhile it's refreshing to see that the fans are putting a lot of thought into the possible outcomes 👆
Originally posted by Syren
I like the way you made your points politely and objectively... it made me actually want to read what you've written and listen, rather than just tell you you're wrong 😉I like that theory, even though it directly opposes mine. But I imagine any of us could be right, or all of us could be way off. We'll have to wait for the 7th book but in the meanwhile it's refreshing to see that the fans are putting a lot of thought into the possible outcomes 👆
I agree. 🙂
how can harry be a horcrux?!in ootp when voldemort possesd hij he couldnt coz harry has love in him,now if voldemorts soul was in him for all this time how could it possibly have survived with all the love harry feels.i think the remainging horcruxs are:
1-Nagini
2-Helgas Goblet
3-Slytherins locket
4-The Sorting Hat(something of Gryffindor)
5-Something of Ravenclaw
6-The Diary from CofS(destroyed)
7-and final part in Voldemort
so u can see harry cant be one,coz voldemort only choses trophies,dumbledore has told us this
Yeah, but how do we know Dumbledore was right? I mean, sure, the guy made some wonderful observation, but he could've been a little off, don't you think?
Maybe not though...
And the sorting hat is a plausible idea, especially since I read something from Rowling saying that it had a substantial part to play. Also, it seems likely that it could be connected to Gryffindor, because it was the sword of Gryffindor that Harry pulled out of the hat...or I could be making this all up.
Ahhhh. All this assuming and guessing is wretched.
Originally posted by billyboyd4ever
Yeah, but how do we know Dumbledore was right? I mean, sure, the guy made some wonderful observation, but he could've been a little off, don't you think?
It's not so much as the fact that Dumbledore said, but moreso the fact that J. K. Rowling wrote it.
I'm pretty sure Dumbledore is correct when he says that all of Volemort's horcruxes are 'trophies' to him.
One more thing, that not a lot of people have questioned:
Sure, people have asked, "Why would Dumbledore freeze Harry?" to which people answer, "Oh, well, Dumbledore wanted to make sure Harry didn't do anything stupid. He was protecting him."
To those people who answered in that way, I ask you this, "Why didn't Dumbledore simply freeze Malfoy?"
Wouldn't that have solved the problem? This is too fishy to me. If Dumbledore wasn't planning on 'dying', why would he freeze Harry and not Draco?
Originally posted by cole2005
how can harry be a horcrux?!in ootp when voldemort possesd hij he couldnt coz harry has love in him,now if voldemorts soul was in him for all this time how could it possibly have survived with all the love harry feels.i think the remainging horcruxs are:
1-Nagini
2-Helgas Goblet
3-Slytherins locket
4-The Sorting Hat(something of Gryffindor)
5-Something of Ravenclaw
6-The Diary from CofS(destroyed)
7-and final part in Voldemort
so u can see harry cant be one,coz voldemort only choses trophies,dumbledore has told us this
i like the whole sorting hat thing and i totally agree that can't be a horcrux and i've been prooving that since i came to this forum but as for #5 that's not right cuz i think u forgot about the ring that dd destroyed so now we know wat they all are! 😉
Originally posted by polowahine4
dumbledore couldn't have freezed malfoy cuz he sent a disarming spell ahead of him. so he couldn't possibly had time to get malfoy. he new he would have to stop harry in case someone did something like that coming into the room.
Dumbledore froze Harry in time. Why not freeze Draco instead?
Would have made all their problems easier, and Dumbledore might not have died.
Originally posted by Director_Joe
But then he couldn't reason with Malfoy... He wanted to give him a chance... Personally, I don't believe this is the case...I'm just showing you there are other ways around your theories... I do think Dumbledore planned his death... And he is just that: Dead.
Okay, so Dumbledore doesn't freeze him. He uses another spell that makes Draco able to talk, but not able to move. (Tie him up with that one spell, maybe?)
It would have made more sense than to freeze Harry.
And besides, I know that there are holes in my theory. There are holes in your theory as well. There will be holes in everybody's theories until the seventh book comes out.
That's why it's called speculation. 🙂