Originally posted by King Kandy
The M-Body isn't the totality of time, it's the totality of the Abstract. You would agree that Abstracts have powers not totaly in line with their concept?
Eternity is the totality of time, that Mbody is a respresentation of Eternity, a visualization of his being which possesses a portion of his power. Mbodys however are not the totality of the concepts they represent.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Can you show us the scans where the Living Tribunal bows before Jean?
LT bows before the Stranger taking advantage of a process the Phoenix power brings about.
Stranger doesnt bow before Jean. Not arguing that he was. Youre trying to be smart based on outdated arguments and as such your attempt has flopped. 🙁
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
[B]LT bows before the Stranger taking advantage of a process the Phoenix power brings about.
Where does it say any of that? More nonesense by you. You accused me of using a visualization when you in fact your the one that's using one. LT never really bowed before the Stranger.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
A fragment of the Phoenix Force is still the Phoenix Force in name my friend. That firebird is NOT the Force in its totality, but instead an avatar of the Force as stated on panel many a time as i have shown quite sufficiently in this thread. An avatar that was considerably weakened due to it not being within the universe from which it was a derivative of.
Where did it say that in the comics? Stop making sh#t up kid. Avatar? Again your making up sh#t.
If the Force manifested in its totality in that bird-like form then there would be nothing but a void elsewhere as it is life incarnate.
This is all you have? Theories with nothing to back you up? Suppose this and that all you want, I've so far seen nothing for you but wind.
Once again, ill informed opinion does not a good argument make.Back to the drawing board------->
Ciao 😱 [/B]
Ill informed? What about a liar like you?
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Where does it say any of that? More nonesense by you. You accused me of using a visualization when you in fact your the one that's using one. LT never really bowed before the Stranger.
Which is besides the point when thats really not the crux of my argument. What you completely missed was what happens during the natural process, you were too obssessed with the Strangers plans which was very naive when they were just theory in the first place.
In the natural process the Phoenix begins and ends the process, thats all that matters. In the natural scheme of things , the abstracts are replaced and the its all as a result of the process the Phoenix power perpetuates. 🙂
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Where did it say that in the comics? Stop making sh#t up kid. Avatar? Again your making up sh#t.This is all you have? Theories with nothing to back you up? Suppose this and that all you want, I've so far seen nothing for you but wind.
Ill informed? What about a liar like you?
Ive posted a number of scans in this stating that that firebird is just a celestial avatar. The Phoenix Force is life incarnate and that is its representation at a universal level. In the same way as the black humanoid figure is a manifestation of Eternity without being his totality.
The point is stated in the scans ive posted and it was quite conveniently illustrated in the recent Endsong that a fragment of the Force is still referred to as the Force despite far from being the totality.
Come again 🙂
Originally posted by King Kandy
I'll ask again...Say, could Nebulour beat Phoenix? He stalemated the living Tribunal...
LT had the upper hand throughout the fight so i disagree with your assessment. As for the question, no i dont based on LTs track record in conflicts i dont think his single performance against LT marks him out as anything major. 🙂
Id say a multiversal fundamental force would be required to convincingly better a full powered Phoenix in a forum battle.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Can you show us the scans where the Living Tribunal bows before Jean?
Originally posted by King Kandy
But LT couldn't actualy hurt Nebulor, All his power got absorbed into the staff of polar power...LT Ultimatly had to destroy the planet they were fighting on, because otherwise him and Nebular eould continue to stalemate...
I have the issue. LT had the upper hand throughout the fight and was winning. While Nebs attacks caused no sound from LT Lts attacks had Neb crying out in pain. Eventually Neb went to flee claiming that at this point his power was no match for LTs but it might be in eons time. As Neb tried to flee LT said while his power would just be absorbed by Nebs staff he'd just attack the planet instead, Dr Strange ended the conflict by taking Nebs staff leaving him powerless enough to be crushed by some rocks. 😬
Lt was winning.
Nebs power was all within his staff, which was easily taken away by Strange leaving Neb a nobody.
Phoenix would crush him/it 😉
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
There is no such thing, the Living Tribunal havent bowed before anyone... Galacus has but... Living Tribunal... 😆
If the Infinity Gauntlet controls the power of the Nullifier than there is nothing Phoenix could do...
The Nullifier is universal. As stated on panel, as stated in Abraxas' handbook entry from last year and in last months Ultimate Nullifier entry which i will gladly post if need be 🙂
What youre doing is swallowing MrMasters inconclusive interpretation that the Nullifier is multiversal and then using very basic logic to say because the Nullifier is multiversal according to the interpretation i want to believe and the IG halted the UNs blast then the IG is greater than Phoenix. 🤨
Acknowledge that officially the UN is universal.
The IG has no feats beyond the universal.
Phoenixes top feats trump the IG's. 😉
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The Nullifier is universal. As stated on panel, as stated in Abraxas' handbook entry from last year and in last months Ultimate Nullifier entry which i will gladly post if need be 🙂What youre doing is swallowing MrMasters inconclusive interpretation that the Nullifier is multiversal and then using very basic logic to say because the Nullifier is multiversal according to the interpretation i want to believe and the IG halted the UNs blast then the IG is greater than Phoenix. 🤨
Acknowledge that officially the UN is universal.
The IG has no feats beyond the universal.
Phoenixes top feats trump the IG's. 😉