Originally posted by KK the Great
"Amputate the future" is nothing but a flowery, poetic way of describing the standard butterfly effect conceit. She removed Sublime, thereby "amputating" the future. She then nudged Scott, thereby fixing the future.This is undeniably what the comic portrays.
In lame terms, She did not amputate the future correct? Only removed Sublime from the possible future reality 15104 right?
Originally posted by KK the Great
Sorry, no.I don't need to explain how omnipotence works.
But if you're going to insist beyond reason that "amputate the future" has some inherent meaning--when it plainly does not--then you'd better be damn sure you can explain what that meaning is. Otherwise your argument is dead as Dillinger. We've explained exactly how she amputated the future, but you continue to say "but it said she amputated the future!" as though it disproves our explanation.
Answer the question: If one were to "amputate the future" with telekinesis, on what would one apply telekinetic force?
Telekinesis isn't like omnipotence or a vague "power cosmic" type of energy that can't be explained simply. Telekinesis is relatively easy to comprehend. You're exerting influence over physical matter with the mind. On what would jean exert her telekinesis in order to amputate the future?
Well in comic book science, TK can effect both matter/energy. But being the host of a Cosmic Force, grants characters some vary wild psionic feats.
Originally posted by id369
In lame terms, She did not amputate the future correct? Only removed Sublime the possible future reality 15104 right?
Yeah, she amputated the future.
It just isn't as impressive as it sounds.
You guys keep applying some undetermined meaning to "amputate the future," as though it must mean something other than what we're describing. It isn't either/or.
Originally posted by KK the Great
Sorry, no.I don't need to explain how omnipotence works.
But if you're going to insist beyond reason that "amputate the future" has some inherent meaning--when it plainly does not--then you'd better be damn sure you can explain what that meaning is. Otherwise your argument is dead as Dillinger. We've explained exactly how she amputated the future, but you continue to say "but it said she amputated the future!" as though it disproves our explanation.
Answer the question: If one were to "amputate the future" with telekinesis, on what would one apply telekinetic force?
Telekinesis isn't like omnipotence or a vague "power cosmic" type of energy that can't be explained simply. Telekinesis is relatively easy to comprehend. You're exerting influence over physical matter with the mind. On what would jean exert her telekinesis in order to amputate the future?
LT isnt omnipotent as the HOTI illustrated. Neither is Galactus and yet can you explain the physics behind how his machinery converts planets to raw energy. What about how Songbirds solid sound constructs or Dazzlers solid light projections work?
You cant exlain them because they are not based in real world science.
You dont think TK should be able to do what Jean did with it? Thats fine. Take it up with Marvel.
As it stands, she said she did it, the point was confirmed by other characters and taken as canon by the Marvel handbooks.
Carry on thinking its stupid, it has no relevance.
Originally posted by KK the Great
Yeah, she amputated the future.It just isn't as impressive as it sounds.
You guys keep applying some undetermined meaning to "amputate the future," as though it must mean something other than what we're describing. It isn't either/or.
Originally posted by KK the Great
Yeah, she amputated the future.It just isn't as impressive as it sounds.
You guys keep applying some undetermined meaning to "amputate the future," as though it must mean something other than what we're describing. It isn't either/or.
What you're describing is that by removing bacteria from Beast, the HCT timeline disappeared. 😬
Your point isnt stated in any marvel publication therefore its just your unsupported opinion.
On top of that its a silly opinion because that future wasnt created by Sublime. Reality took that path because of Scotts decision. So please explain how Sublimes removal rendered 150 years of timeline non existent?
It never. Jean did as shown on panel and in the bios. 😄
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
LT isnt omnipotent as the HOTI illustrated. Neither is Galactus and yet can you explain the physics behind how his machinery converts planets to raw energy. What about how Songbirds solid sound constructs or Dazzlers solid light projections work?
This is some marvelous dodging.
You can't even explain what the hell "amputate the future" means, and yet you'd like to continue using it as proof that our explanation is invalid.
Weak sauce, kid.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
What you're describing is that by removing bacteria from Beast, the HCT timeline disappeared.
Yes.
Your point isnt stated in any marvel publication therefore its just your unsupported opinion.
Of course it is stated. You've posted the page where it is stated numerous times.
That you're not intelligent enough to comprehend what you read isn't my problem.
Originally posted by KK the Great
This is some marvelous dodging.You can't even explain what the hell "amputate the future" means, and yet you'd like to continue using it as proof that our explanation is invalid.
Weak sauce, kid.
What does it mean to cut of the future? I assume its, to inhibit the current reality (in current terms) to progress.
Originally posted by KK the Great
This is some marvelous dodging.You can't even explain what the hell "amputate the future" means, and yet you'd like to continue using it as proof that our explanation is invalid.
Weak sauce, kid.
Not at all. It means she cut off time, stopped the progression of that timeline.
This point was confirmed by other characters and on panel. I can tell you what she did and tell you how other characters confirmed she did it. However because what she did isnt based in real world science i or any other poster cant tell you how she did. But thats irrelevant.
Marvel said she did it. Thats all i need to say she did it. Your contrary opinion has no relevance when its unsupported officially 🙁
Where does marvel say the removal of bacteria amputated the timeline? 😕
Originally posted by KK the Great
That's what I'm asking you.If she "amputates the future" by exerting telekinetic force, [b]on what does she exert the force?
Secondary question: If removing Sublime isn't how she amputated the future, then why the hell did she even bother? [/B]
I have no idea, what is time made of KK?
Originally posted by id369
I have no idea, what is time made of KK?
It's not my job to make your argument for you.
If you want to continue citing "amputate the future" as proof, for whatever reason, that Jean must have used telekinesis to literally cut off the future like a damn butcher, then you should be able to tell me what you believe that involves.