Mr Master, with regards to the whole Phoenix is the Big Bang debate, we'll leave that for another thread.
If you want to create a thread specifically on the matter within the comic books discussion forums then be my guest and i will join you. 😉
However we have been back and forth on this issue many a time and at the end of the day, i'm not making it up. The point is stated by a variety of characters on panel and that Excalibur scene can be interpreted as showing the Force as the Big Bang turned sentient.
You might not believe it to be the case, but the very fact that i can draw on a dozen comics stating the point should spark off something in your brain.
You may talk of how the F4 issue shows an actual on panel depiction. I could say the same with regards to the Excalibur issue, you just interpret it differently. Plus i can find precedence for my interpretation of the scene in many sources both before and after its publication.
As we both know, there are many origin theorys featured in marvel publications, however few are more consistently linked to the origin of Marvel as the Phoenix. Dont fill up this thread with this subject anymore. Make the thread. 🙂