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Not really. Just look at Morlun, one of the toughest guys Spidey's ever faced. A lot like the Gorgon, only problem is he's not telepathic and he wont heal from getting his head cut off. The likes of Goblin, Rhino, Shocker, Lizard, and Doc Ock aren't going to do anything to Wolverine

are you saying Doc Ock cant do anything to wolverine?
Are you considering that Ock comes at you from all angles?
Spiderman does not dodge Ocks attacks all the time and he is faster more agile and has a spider sense. So knowing that Wolverine is not as quick as agile as Spiderman or having a spider sense where do you see Wolverine in a best of 10 against Ock? Honestly?

Originally posted by riceroost
Not really. Just look at Morlun, one of the toughest guys Spidey's ever faced. A lot like the Gorgon, only problem is he's not telepathic and he wont heal from getting his head cut off. The likes of Goblin, Rhino, Shocker, Lizard, and Doc Ock aren't going to do anything to Wolverine.

It seems like your insinuating that Wolverine beat Gorgon. Gorgon was killing Wolverine, Logan couldn't even slow the guy down. All he did was pop his claws to win. Not a showing I'd use for Wolverine personally. Apparently you don't know how dangerous SM's villians are. I seem to recall at least one other SM villian giving Wolverine trouble. Venom anyone?

Originally posted by riceroost
And once again another person claims all Wolverine has is claws and a healing factor. Wrong. Although with the claws and the healing factor alone he could still beat Spider-Man.

Haha. And here is where I know all is lost.

Originally posted by riceroost
Panther is not as strong as Cap, therefor he is not stronger than Wolverine..

Which requires you to assume that Wolverine is stronger than Captain America

Originally posted by riceroost
If Spider-Man starts webbing up other people while being engaged by Wolverine he will get killed. Spider-Man has difficulty avoiding Wolverine in a 1 on 1 fight as it is..

No he won't. He has swatted Wolverine like he was nothing before while going on to take down the rest of the X-men. The only times I can recall Wolverine getting any sort of edge over Spider-Man is when Spider-Man was not expecting it. Fortunately here not only is he expecting it, he's not holding back

Originally posted by riceroost
Well obviously he is both stronger and faster than DD. DD is a human physically. Wolverine is in his own words, "Way stronger n' faster than normal people." And considering Wolverine was a peak human before his Weapon X enhancements and all his feats are on par with those of Ultimate Captain America it's safe to say he's got Cap beat physically too. DD human, Wolverine not human. Common Sense.

He's physically superior to Daredevil (doesn't mean he can tag him though). About Cap though, thats debatable

Way to easy, Team 1 10/10

Originally posted by Daredevil09
Way to easy, Team 1 10/10

I would have said a majority of the time but all 10 still works 😄

Originally posted by riceroost
Not really. Just look at Morlun, one of the toughest guys Spidey's ever faced. A lot like the Gorgon, only problem is he's not telepathic and he wont heal from getting his head cut off. The likes of Goblin, Rhino, Shocker, Lizard, and Doc Ock aren't going to do anything to Wolverine.

Originally posted by riceroost
And once again another person claims all Wolverine has is claws and a healing factor. Wrong. Although with the claws and the healing factor alone he could still beat Spider-Man.

THIS THREAD IS DONE TEAM 1 WINS

Originally posted by jrodslam
Its obvious hes faster and stronger than DD because Wolvie stated that hes way faster and stronger than normal people? He does have some impressive feats of strength, but none that are done on a continuous basis that would put him above Cap or DD in strength. Possibly slightly in strength, but not enough to make much of a difference in a fight.

use a tree as a baseball bat.
Use colossus as a bludgeoning weapon against Juggernaut.
shatter steel shackles on multiple occassions.
hold up an elevator.
throw a full dumster 1 handed.
throw black cat 1 handed hard enough to KO human torch and topple a water tower.
throw black cat 1 handed high enough to hit a helicopter from the water.
punch Rogue through a brick wall.
KO Roughouse with punches.
grapple evenly with a young warpath.
Kick open a bank vault.
pick up 7 men with 1 hand and throw them all through a wall.
Throw a great white into a boat from the water.

ETC...

Plus there is the fact that in the latest strength rankings
DD: 2 (I think)
Cap: 3
Wolverine: 4

Originally posted by jrodslam
i dont think hes faster than DD and Cap either. Moreso DD.

Originally posted by python99
Wolverine has a hard enough time sneaking up on Spiderman

Originally posted by python99
like the time Spidey took on the X-Men and swated Wolvie like a fly when he tried to sneak up on him.

Originally posted by python99
Like I stated before when Spidey is on his game, he is on his game, so fighting a guy like Wovlerine and dishing out some webbing at the same time for some aid for his team should'nt be that much of a problem

Originally posted by python99
spidey usually fights from a distance and anylizes the situation before jumping into combat thus making him also a smarter fighter than Wolverine.

Originally posted by brainchild81
& now you're just talking crazy Goblin & Ock would murder Wolvie.

Originally posted by python99
are you saying Doc Ock cant do anything to wolverine?

Originally posted by python99
Are you considering that Ock comes at you from all angles?

Originally posted by python99
Spiderman does not dodge Ocks attacks all the time.

Originally posted by python99
So knowing that Wolverine is not as quick as agile as Spiderman or having a spider sense where do you see Wolverine in a best of 10 against Ock? Honestly?

Doc would have a very hard time hurting Wolverine compared to Spidey and Wolverine can disarm Doc's weapons EASILY. Honestly, how well does Doc do against Spidey a majority of the time?

Originally posted by marvelprince
It seems like your insinuating that Wolverine beat Gorgon.

Originally posted by marvelprince
I seem to recall at least one other SM villian giving Wolverine trouble. Venom anyone?.

Originally posted by marvelprince
Which requires you to assume that Wolverine is stronger than Captain America?

Originally posted by marvelprince
No he won't. He has swatted Wolverine like he was nothing before while going on to take down the rest of the X-men. The only times I can recall Wolverine getting any sort of edge over Spider-Man is when Spider-Man was not expecting it.?

Originally posted by marvelprince
He's physically superior to Daredevil (doesn't mean he can tag him though

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Carnage, Morlun, Venom, Toxin, Goblin, Ock, even the Lizard would give him a good fight.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
That's all he has on Parker. And martial experience. But I'm not even going there.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Team 1: Captain America, Dare Devil, Luke Cage, and Spiderman

versus

Team 2: Iron Fist, Black Panther, Batman, and Wolverine

Team 1 FTW

🙂

excellent post, riceroost. Let's see if those spidey fanboys can counter your great points now.

Originally posted by riceroost
Wolverine constantly shows strength far beyond DD and many times beyond Cap. Ive never seen DD:

use a tree as a baseball bat.
Use colossus as a bludgeoning weapon against Juggernaut.
shatter steel shackles on multiple occassions.
hold up an elevator.
throw a full dumster 1 handed.
throw black cat 1 handed hard enough to KO human torch and topple a water tower.
throw black cat 1 handed high enough to hit a helicopter from the water.
punch Rogue through a brick wall.
KO Roughouse with punches.
grapple evenly with a young warpath.
Kick open a bank vault.
pick up 7 men with 1 hand and throw them all through a wall.
Throw a great white into a boat from the water.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Possibly slightly in strength, but not enough to make much of a difference in a fight.

Originally posted by riceroost
Plus there is the fact that in the latest strength rankings
DD: 2 (I think)
Cap: 3
Wolverine: 4

And we all know how accurate Marvel ratings are.😬

Originally posted by riceroost
The day Cap or Wolverine move faster than people can see they are even with Wolvy. Until then, they are slower. DD is obviously the slowest because he is HUMAN. He runs as fast as a 180-225 pound humna can move. Cap moves as fast as any human period. Wolverine way faster than anything human.

Daredevil moves faster than people can see all the time. The mans a ninja. Hell, even against Wolvie, hes taken him down with one swift move before Wolvie can react. On another occasion, Wolvie even commented to himself on Daredevils speed.

Originally posted by riceroost
Wolverine stalemated Omega Red for 18 hours of hand to hand combat.

Actually, Red "dominated" him for almost 18 hours and beat him in the end.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Actually the Spider-sense works on the offensive, too, as it's done for him on numerous occassions. It basically tells him where to strike when he's facing a quick opponent. That's why I don't see Batman being able to dodge a punch. Spidey throws a punch, Batman attempts to dodge, but Spidey had already recalibrated his punch to the direction where Batman will be, landing his punch.

I hope you don't think I'm angrily arguing with you or anything. I'm just really enjoying this civil, well-thought out debate. 🙂

I've just missed those issues then. Not I that I disagreed or anything, I haven't read even half of the issues he has starred in. Sounds funny and cool, but I still think Batman can dodge him as he has dodged many superhumans.

And I know you're not being angry, I've always considered you a smart fellow.

Originally posted by riceroost
Wolverine constantly shows strength far beyond DD and many times beyond Cap. Ive never seen DD:

use a tree as a baseball bat.
Use colossus as a bludgeoning weapon against Juggernaut.
shatter steel shackles on multiple occassions.
hold up an elevator.
throw a full dumster 1 handed.
throw black cat 1 handed hard enough to KO human torch and topple a water tower.
throw black cat 1 handed high enough to hit a helicopter from the water.
punch Rogue through a brick wall.
KO Roughouse with punches.
grapple evenly with a young warpath.
Kick open a bank vault.
pick up 7 men with 1 hand and throw them all through a wall.
Throw a great white into a boat from the water.

ETC...

Plus there is the fact that in the latest strength rankings
DD: 2 (I think)
Cap: 3
Wolverine: 4
The day Cap or Wolverine move faster than people can see they are even with Wolvy. Until then, they are slower. DD is obviously the slowest because he is HUMAN. He runs as fast as a 180-225 pound humna can move. Cap moves as fast as any human period. Wolverine way faster than anything human.
Uh yeah, cause of precog, Der.
Yeah, because that was believable. This from the same comic that has Wasp beat down on all the X-Men. Wolverine has since then swatted an attacking Parker in a very similar manner in Marvel Comics Presents.
And when Wolverine is on his game he can constantly pressure Spider-Man to the point where even when Peter is completely focused on Wolverine he still gets hit. Not completely focused he will get hit faster and the damage will be more significant.
Spider-Man, a more intelligent fighter than Wolverine? Bull Shit. Wolverine is trained, by everyone in combat. Spidey has had some tai chi lessons from Cap, which he sucked at. Spidey's entire fight plan revolves around running away from the attack.
Bull and Shit.
Goblin's only tool is flight. And we all know Wolverine has never beaten a flyer before. 🙄
Dock Ock is a poor man's Omega Red. Wolverine stalemated Omega Red for 18 hours of hand to hand combat. Ock's arms are also not carbonadium or adamantium any more. Wolverine would tear them to SHREDS.

I'm saying Wolverine would KILL Doc Ock. Poor Man's Omege Red.
Are you considering Wolverine has dodged 100 laser blasts all from different directions? Are you considering Doc needs to anchor himself with at least 1 tentacle to achieve full strength and speed attacks with the tentacles? Are you considering that unlike Spider-Man Wolverine can destroy those tentacles like you swat at flies?
Wolverine wont have to dodge all of Ock's attacks. He can take 1000% more damage than Spider-Man. Wolverine can also simply slash the incoming tentacles. Uh oh, down to 3 arms. Slash again. Uh oh, only 2. Oh look, it's Omega Red, but without the super strength, indestructible arms, massive durability, unbreakable armor, healing factor, of death spores. Doc is meat.
Wolverine's speed is arguably better than Spider-Man's in some instances. Spidey's agility is much better, but Wolverine's senses act much like Spider-Man's do on many occassions where Wolverine is not facing an oncoming attack.(Morlock Massacre/Living Lightning)

Doc would have a very hard time hurting Wolverine compared to Spidey and Wolverine can disarm Doc's weapons EASILY. Honestly, how well does Doc do against Spidey a majority of the time?
It seems like you cant read what I write. I never said Wolverine could beat Gorgon. I personally think Gorgon takes a good 8/10 from Wolverine. Wolverine did however take a lot of damage from Gorgon, but cut the hell out of Gorgon in the process. He'd take Morlun's beating, but Morlun wont weather Wolverine's counter attacks like Gorgon could. Morlun was laid low by a wrist stabbing and face biting. He was not anywhere near as tough as the Gorgon.
I could be wrong, but I do believe Wolverine has stalemated Venom every time he's fought him, so I dont see your point. To my knowledge the only Venom that could take Wolverine was the symbiot itself, devoid of a host. And it didn't beat him, it only absorbed him.
And according to the Marvel Encyclapedias Wolverine is stronger than Cap. A 4 to Cap's 3. Wolverine also has better feats.
Oh, wow 1 example. Wolverine wasn't even hurt anyway. Spidey ran away. I have several examples of Wolverine 1-shotting Spider-Man to tip the scales. Marvel Knights Spider-Man, Spider-Man Perceptions, Ennis Punisher, Marvel Comics Presents. Obviously Wolverine can get Spidey
Are you trying to insinuate that Wolverine can't tag DD? Even though Wolverine has tagged Daredevil what? 3 times? Even though he's tagged Spider-Man 5 times? Rediculous.

Carnage: Yes
Morlun: No.
Venom: Stalemate, as it has already happened.
Toxin: yes
Goblin: Hell no.
Ock: Hell no.
Lizard: HA!! Hell no.
And MASSIVE durability. Arguably attack speed. And higher damage cababilities.

Morlun wins, Venom wins, despite "what's happened" people like to use the showings that help their argument. Venom in his good showings mows over Wolverine, he dumps a truck on him and calls it a day. This isn't a crossover battle.

Goblin won't get hit by Wolverine, but can put him to sleep.

Lizard gives him a fight, that's what I said.

Wolverine doesn't have faster attack speed than Spiderman. And with bloodlust on, Spiderman could kill far more "normal" people than Wolverine, using his abilities and the environment around him.

Wolverine isn't faster than Spiderman in ANY way, shape, or form. Ever. I'm sorry, but there is NO evidence to that fact. Wolverine could NEVER keep up with a non-jobbing Spiderman. Lizard could fight him for a good while, I dunno who'd come out on top, though. The Goblin could win through subterfuge, Morlun just obliterates Wolvie, Doc could use his tentacles to rip every major organ out of Wolverine's body a bit faster than Wolverine could start chopping off arms.

And putting Venom against Wolverine is just friggin Spite considering how much Venom would rape him.

Originally posted by Soljer
You missed Durability.

Damn. You're right, I can't believe I missed that one. Good looking out, Soljer.

Uh yeah, cause of precog, Der.

Yeah something that Wolverine does not have. Addvantage team Spidey

Yeah, because that was believable. This from the same comic that has Wasp beat down on all the X-Men. Wolverine has since then swatted an attacking Parker in a very similar manner in Marvel Comics Presents

Big deal Wolverine Swatted Spidey away. Did he do it while fighting someone else? Nope.

Spider-Man, a more intelligent fighter than Wolverine? Bull Shit. Wolverine is trained, by everyone in combat. Spidey has had some tai chi lessons from Cap, which he sucked at. Spidey's entire fight plan revolves around running away from the attack.

Yes Spidey is a more intelligent fighter than Wolverine. Wolverine is a trained martial artist fine , we all know that, But yet he uses the same lunging attack all the time and leaves himself open to attack. Real smart 😉

Dock Ock is a poor man's Omega Red. Wolverine stalemated Omega Red for 18 hours of hand to hand combat. Ock's arms are also not carbonadium or adamantium any more. Wolverine would tear them to SHREDS

Again that same lunging attack leaves him open and gets caught in mid flight. So what Ock does not have carbonadium or adamantium so what. Correct me if I am wrong isnt Wolverine bone clawed? If I am not mistaken, actually I know I am not, but in Wolverine 126 when Sabretooth first got introduced with adamantium he snapped Wolverines claws like twigs, slashed his throught and tossed him over a bridge. Well I guess Ock is no match for a bone-clawed Wolverine. 🙄 Ock owns Wolverine a majority of the time

This thread is about what team is better 1 or 2. Now say Wolverine and Spiderman are the leaders on either side. Spidey obviously bring more to the table to aid his team to victory. Wolverine is more worried about himself in combat he does not have long range attacks wich may be an advantage. Spidey on the other hand may temporarily web up an opposing member for his team to gain the upper hand. Whoever is webbed up proper it becomes a 4 on 3. His speed will allow him to do this more than a few times. Dont get me wrong Wolverines a great character but unless he can make short work of his opponent he really is no use to his team. What he brings to the table is only a benifit to him and him alone. He may have his healing but again advantage to him.
Wolverine will more than likely be the last survivor of his team, However; If Spideys team has the upperhand throughout the fight, this will be a handicap match were Wolverine is left to fend for himself in a possible 3 on 1 or 2 on 1 situation.
Team 1 wins end of story.

Originally posted by Soljer
Wolverine isn't faster than Spiderman in ANY way, shape, or form. Ever. I'm sorry, but there is NO evidence to that fact. Wolverine could NEVER keep up with a non-jobbing Spiderman. Lizard could fight him for a good while, I dunno who'd come out on top, though. The Goblin could win through subterfuge, Morlun just obliterates Wolvie, Doc could use his tentacles to rip every major organ out of Wolverine's body a bit faster than Wolverine could start chopping off arms.

And putting Venom against Wolverine is just friggin Spite considering how much Venom would rape him.

End thread

Originally posted by python99
End thread

this is becoming another spiderman vs wolverine thread

To be honest theres noone on team 1 that have the powers to take down wolverine. Wolverine have fought everyone on team 1 and everyone of them that he fought have always shown signs of fear. Back on the third page of this battle site it showed someone putting up a picture that had spiderman webbing wolverine up, I own the comic and the entire time wolverine was trying to kill a kid that shot blast from his hand and spiderman showed fear against wolverine through that entire book and when wolverine started to attack the boy again spiderman webbed him up (while wolverine wasnt paying attention). I have seen all of the spiderman and wolverine fights and wolverine has owned spiderman in about all of them except their 1st fight but that wolverine is in no comparison to the wolverine now. wolverine have a major power upgrade since then. I have seen in marvel knights #13 where wolverine easily stabs spiderman in the chest. I have seen in a comic where wolverine was in a investigation to find a child and spiderman attacked wolverine, thinking that it was someone posing as the real wolverine and didnt land not one punch ending with wolverine having his claws at his throat (after he beat the breaks out of spiderman). Everytime spiderman and wolverine fought spiderman consider wolverine one of the fastest fighters he's ever faced. I have witnessed cap take spiderman down, elektra, kraven, so what makes wolverine no different, I think that he could take spiderman out easily because thats all it takes is one good cut from his claws and the fight is done.

I almost forgot, in the new avengers #6 someone wrote in saying that they dont want the new avenger writer to right spiderman as a weak hero compared to the others. The writer simply said besides spiderwomen, compared to the rest of the team, captain america, iron man, and wolverine, spiderman will look like the weakest. Spiderman is a great character but he just dont have the strength to take out wolverine, a guy that trains everyday of his life to better himself. A guy that is stated to know every martial art on the planet. A guy that took a punch from the hulk, juggernaut, apocalypse, venom, rogue, colossus, wendigo, took a nuke to the chest, to punches from roughhouse (75 tonner), etc...... and jumped right back up like nothing happened. I cant see nothing that spiderman could do to him that would stop him but avoid his ferocity and pray that someone help him.

Originally posted by carver9
To be honest theres noone on team 1 that have the powers to take down wolverine. Wolverine have fought everyone on team 1 and everyone of them that he fought have always shown signs of fear. Back on the third page of this battle site it showed someone putting up a picture that had spiderman webbing wolverine up, I own the comic and the entire time wolverine was trying to kill a kid that shot blast from his hand and spiderman showed fear against wolverine through that entire book and when wolverine started to attack the boy again spiderman webbed him up (while wolverine wasnt paying attention). I have seen all of the spiderman and wolverine fights and wolverine has owned spiderman in about all of them except their 1st fight but that wolverine is in no comparison to the wolverine now. wolverine have a major power upgrade since then. I have seen in marvel knights #13 where wolverine easily stabs spiderman in the chest. I have seen in a comic where wolverine was in a investigation to find a child and spiderman attacked wolverine, thinking that it was someone posing as the real wolverine and didnt land not one punch ending with wolverine having his claws at his throat (after he beat the breaks out of spiderman). Everytime spiderman and wolverine fought spiderman consider wolverine one of the fastest fighters he's ever faced. I have witnessed cap take spiderman down, elektra, kraven, so what makes wolverine no different, I think that he could take spiderman out easily because thats all it takes is one good cut from his claws and the fight is done.

I almost forgot, in the new avengers #6 someone wrote in saying that they dont want the new avenger writer to right spiderman as a weak hero compared to the others. The writer simply said besides spiderwomen, compared to the rest of the team, captain america, iron man, and wolverine, spiderman will look like the weakest. Spiderman is a great character but he just dont have the strength to take out wolverine, a guy that trains everyday of his life to better himself. A guy that is stated to know every martial art on the planet. A guy that took a punch from the hulk, juggernaut, apocalypse, venom, rogue, colossus, wendigo, took a nuke to the chest, to punches from roughhouse (75 tonner), etc...... and jumped right back up like nothing happened. I cant see nothing that spiderman could do to him that would stop him but avoid his ferocity and pray that someone help him.

You have got to be kidding me 😆

This thread is about what team is better 1 or 2. Now say Wolverine and Spiderman are the leaders on either side. Spidey obviously bring more to the table to aid his team to victory. Wolverine is more worried about himself in combat he does not have long range attacks wich may be an advantage. Spidey on the other hand may temporarily web up an opposing member for his team to gain the upper hand. Whoever is webbed up proper it becomes a 4 on 3. His speed will allow him to do this more than a few times. Dont get me wrong Wolverines a great character but unless he can make short work of his opponent he really is no use to his team. What he brings to the table is only a benifit to him and him alone. He may have his healing but again advantage to him.
Wolverine will more than likely be the last survivor of his team, However; If Spideys team has the upperhand throughout the fight, this will be a handicap match were Wolverine is left to fend for himself in a possible 3 on 1 or 2 on 1 situation.
Team 1 wins end of story.