Wanda, with full control over the Chaos wave runs the gauntlet.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The chaos wave was only a threat if left unchecked, When it was tackled head on a significant power wasnt required. In the same way a fire if left unchecked can do millions of pounds of damage over many blocks, but tackle it headon and it wont make it past the frying pan.

[QUOTE=7610316]Originally posted by GalacticStorm
[B] On top of that Wanda is a reality manipulator, her powesr are dependent on reality. Take her outside of it and shes powerless. Shes a manipulator not a creator.

Funny, how did she create her children again?

How did she create Layla Miller again?

And what the heck has the White Phoenix created?

NOTHING.

White Phoenix of the Crown has NEVER Destroyed, Remad or Created a Universe.

Atleast Wanda Re-created the 616 reality

Originally posted by bigbran
Is this adressed to me?

I am only bringing up, things that never happened.

You say Wanda never destroyed anything too high.
I say kind of like how LT was bowing to Pheonix.
I'm sure you remember what I'm talking about here.

I said many a time in debate that LT was bowing to a Phoenix enhanced Stranger, which was the case. The whole process Stranger was taking advantage of was brought about by the Phoenix as stated on panel several times hence the central image of Jean.

Lets not get into this now but i will gladly address this point in the appropriate thread once this Wanda issue has been dealt with. Why bring that up here?

She gets to 6

This is definitely the biggest BETRAYAL of trust ever committed on KMC forums

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I forgot to mention how Xmen Forever clearly depicts how one wielding the phoenix power becomes supreme over creation. With enough power to humble LT even:

He even threw in an extra close up

You CUT OFF the Stranger to make others believe they were Bowing to Jean, freakin Phony.

I've known of your style for a long time, but this is the proof of what you are.

The REAL SCAN

They're Bowing to the STRANGER

Originally posted by Mr Master
Funny, how did she create her children again?

How did she create Layla Miller again?

And what the heck has the White Phoenix created?

NOTHING.

White Phoenix of the Crown has NEVER Destroyed, Remad or Created a Universe.

Atleast Wanda Re-created the 616 reality

Your point about creating her children and Layla, what does that have to do with the post of mine you've quoted? 😕

Jean has shown the ability to manipulate matter on a universal scale with ease and at the atomic level. With that in mind Jean could very well create or destroy a universe if that was her desire.

Its like Rachel Grey manipulating the atomic structure of a dress then arguing that because shes not shown either creating or destroying the dress she couldnt? 🙄

And now,

the REAL STORY:

It was this fallacy that got that rumor started. (wonder by who?)

On the Scan that never existed....

let me break it down for you.

Scan 1:

Here Eternity is explaining to Jean how the Universe works and how it has lead to US....

Already proved this many times over... the Phoenix Force in it's Natural State is the SPARK that ignites the natural Big Bang of a Universe, which recycles it (a self perpetuating process)

Phoenix is NOT the Big Bang and the scan clearly tells us the Celestials SEEDED the Universe with Creation and the Celestials were created by Eternity.

Scan 2:

Ok, here Eternity says, "like Galactus was the sole survivor...so shall Humanity Begin the End, End the Beginning."

NOTHING about Phoenix.

"Oblivion will embrace all...creation will Renew itself"...(no need for Phoenix)

"And therein lies the Stranger's conceit"...

Ok, I'm sure you see now that the Stranger WANTS to BE ABLE to do... what Humans WILL BE ABLE to do one day.

(Which is WHY they are BOWING to HIM in the scan...

because one day WE (Humans), will NOT need the Abstracts or even the Living Tribunal...

they will be as NOTHING to US (Humans).

"He plans to spark Humanity's Evolution Now...to Engulf the cosmos."

How does he PLAN to do that?....

AT one time some even thought it would be with the power of Phoenix.

But I think not.

Scan 3 & 4:

The Stranger was going to use 5 (FIVE) individuals to accomplish his "Spark in Humanity's Evolution Now... to Engulf the cosmos"

Marko, Jean, Iceman, Toad, Mystique.

More Proof it was FIVE individuals the Stranger was going to use to "Spark Humanity's Evolution Now...to Engulf the cosmos"...

NOT Phoenix...NOT PHOENIX AT ALL....Jean didn't even have the Phoenix Force during this time.

"To pluck FIVE representative Earthlings to SERVE as his Evolutionary Vanguards"

notworthy------------------>nono

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I said many a time in debate that LT was bowing to a Phoenix enhanced Stranger, which was the case. The whole process Stranger was taking advantage of was brought about by the Phoenix as stated on panel several times hence the central image of Jean.

Lets not get into this now but i will gladly address this point in the appropriate thread once this Wanda issue has been dealt with. Why bring that up here?

Originally posted by Mr Master
This is definitely the biggest BETRAYAL of trust ever committed on KMC forums

He even threw in an extra close up

You CUT OFF the Stranger to make others believe they were Bowing to Jean, freakin Phony.

I've known of your style for a long time, but this is the proof of what you are.

The REAL SCAN

Please look at the quality of those scans. They were taken with my camera fone back before i knew about downloading comics. Hence the reason why the picture is taken in segments. Try getting a good clear picture of the whole scene with a camera phone.

My commentary about the scenes shows no deception.

Originally posted by Mr Master
And now,

the REAL STORY:

It was this fallacy that got that rumor started. (wonder by who?)

On the Scan that never existed....

let me break it down for you.

Scan 1:

Here Eternity is explaining to Jean how the Universe works and how it has lead to US....

Already proved this many times over... the Phoenix Force in it's Natural State is the SPARK that ignites the natural Big Bang of a Universe, which recycles it (a self perpetuating process)

Phoenix is NOT the Big Bang and the scan clearly tells us the Celestials SEEDED the Universe with Creation and the Celestials were created by Eternity.

Scan 2:

Ok, here Eternity says, "like Galactus was the sole survivor...so shall Humanity Begin the End, End the Beginning."

NOTHING about Phoenix.

"Oblivion will embrace all...creation will Renew itself"...(no need for Phoenix)

"And therein lies the Stranger's conceit"...

Ok, I'm sure you see now that the Stranger WANTS to BE ABLE to do... what Humans WILL BE ABLE to do one day.

(Which is WHY they are BOWING to HIM in the scan...

because one day WE (Humans), will NOT need the Abstracts or even the Living Tribunal...

they will be as NOTHING to US (Humans).

"He plans to spark Humanity's Evolution Now...to Engulf the cosmos."

How does he PLAN to do that?....

AT one time some even thought it would be with the power of Phoenix.

But I think not.

Scan 3 & 4:

The Stranger was going to use 5 (FIVE) individuals to accomplish his "Spark in Humanity's Evolution Now... to Engulf the cosmos"

Marko, Jean, Iceman, Toad, Mystique.

More Proof it was FIVE individuals the Stranger was going to use to "Spark Humanity's Evolution Now...to Engulf the cosmos"...

NOT Phoenix...NOT PHOENIX AT ALL....Jean didn't even have the Phoenix Force during this time.

"To pluck FIVE representative Earthlings to SERVE as his Evolutionary Vanguards"

notworthy------------------>nono

Once again, Mr Master not being able to counter tries to disguise that fact through insults and through the introduction of off topic subjects to the debate.

We'll address that issue separately after this has been dealt with. Please counter my points or concede 🙂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Please look at the quality of those scans. They were taken with my camera fone back before i knew about downloading comics. Hence the reason why the picture is taken in segments. Trying getting a good clear picture of the whole scene with a camera phone.

My commentary about the scenes shows no deception.

You didn't even mention Stranger. It even seemed like you were cutting off Stranger, but again, you showed no deception.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Once again, Mr Master not being able to counter tries to disguise that fact through insults and through the introduction of off topic subjects to the debate.

We'll address that issue separately after this has been dealt with. Please counter my points or concede 🙂

Looks like GS is getting PWNED again!!!

Originally posted by bigbran
I even showed the thread.
You said they were bowing to Phoenix.

You didn't even mention Stranger. It even seemed like you were cutting off Stranger, but again, you showed no deception.

Look through debates on the issue and see how many times ive said they are bowing to a Phoenix enhanced Stranger. A Stranger made supreme through the Phoenixes involvement.

Take this issue up in another thread. Or have you been PMed by Mr M to help disguise the fact that he has no counter to the ON TOPIC argument? 😄

Originally posted by bigbran
How about you take it here?
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=348586&perpage=20&highlight=&pagenumber=1

Gladly. After we've dealt with the Wanda issue. 🙂

AND BUSTED!

Did you read his excuse?

I just nodded my head.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Looks like GS is getting PWNED again!!!

How so? With regards to the topic of this thread we're posting in im sorry to break it to you acolyte but your masters getting a whupping most fierce 😱

Thats the very reason why hes trying to change the subject. ✅

Originally posted by bigbran
You forgot the part, where it took Phoenix, Juggernaut, and Iceman to beat Stranger.

Oh yea, the "Phoenix enhanced Stranger" 😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Look through debates on the issue and see how many times ive said they are bowing to a Phoenix enhanced Stranger. A Stranger made supreme through the Phoenixes involvement.

Take this issue up in another thread. Or have you been PMed by Mr M to help disguise the fact that he has no counter to the ON TOPIC argument? 😄

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
You are a true idiot that scan has nothing to do with Stranger enhanced by the Phoenix force it says that humanity will evolve into Eternity

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
How so? With regards to the topic of this thread we're posting in im sorry to break it to you acolyte but your masters getting a whupping most fierce

I think you better CRAWL back from where you came.

Your days are over at KMC.