Spider-Man vs. Punisher and Wolverine

Started by Soljer11 pages
Originally posted by capt it up
no it was cannon it talks of both there histories aand even shows logan with bones claws and talks about his time in frances during wolrd war 2

Scans, merce?

Originally posted by Soljer
Scans, merce?

don't have my comic at school nor do I own a scanner. go read the issue is speaks of the past and current logan. it shows him with bone claws and with adamatium claws it cannon.

Originally posted by capt it up
don't have my comic at school nor do I own a scanner. go read the issue is speaks of the past and current logan. it shows him with bone claws and with adamatium claws it cannon.

Uhh, unless I'm blind, you didn't post an issue number. How am I supposed to go read it ?

Originally posted by Soljer
Uhh, unless I'm blind, you didn't post an issue number. How am I supposed to go read it ?

my bad it wolverine/ darkness # 1

Originally posted by capt it up
my bad it wolverine/ darkness # 1

Yeah, I thought it was the Darkness cross-over.

The non-cannon Darkness Crossover.

😛.

Originally posted by Soljer
Yeah, I thought it was the Darkness cross-over.

The non-cannon Darkness Crossover.

😛.

it not non-cannon since it talks about events logan was in. it also shows logan with bones claws and then 50 years later he has admatium claws. it quite cannon actaully.

Originally posted by capt it up
it not non-cannon since it talks about events logan was in. it also shows logan with bones claws and then 50 years later he has admatium claws. it quite cannon actaully.

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I can draw a comic in MS paint that shows Wolverine with Bone and Adamantium claws.

Your argument for that making it cannon is flawed.

Originally posted by Soljer
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I can draw a comic in MS paint that shows Wolverine with Bone and Adamantium claws.

Your argument for that making it cannon is flawed.


not at all. The events from the past that were memories of both logan and darkness talk of world war 2 and france were logan was and that has been shown in his comic that he was indeed a soldier in war world 2 and spent time in france making there ristances much stronger. They also talk about wolverine has been up grade because when darkness firts faced him he had bone claws which was true during that time. then they talk about how he had an up grade and got metal ones which was becuase of weapon x program. also he remeber back to when he faced darkness the first time meaning he had his memories back which he has recovered recently.

Don't many non-canon comics also include many canon aspects as well?

Such as What-Ifs and the Ultimate Universes (like their powers and names for example).

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Don't many non-canon comics also include many canon aspects as well?

Such as What-Ifs and the Ultimate Universes (like their powers and names for example).


not at all ultimate is a nother universe.

what ifs are another universe.

wolverine darkness is the same universe and show examples through the issue that prove it is indeed cannon.

wolverien vs deathstroke was not cannon ebcuase it did not talk about either history and had no evidence of past events and such like wolverine vs darkness showed

Originally posted by capt it up
not at all ultimate is a nother universe.

what ifs are another universe.

wolverine darkness is the same universe and show examples through the issue that prove it is indeed cannon.

wolverien vs deathstroke was not cannon ebcuase it did not talk about either history and had no evidence of past events and such like wolverine vs darkness showed

Actually, looking back, using the Ultimate Universe was a bad example. Forget I said that.

What Ifs aren't another universe... 😬

Originally posted by Metalmanx
When I see Wolverine dogde a bullet like this, then we can talk.
Uncanny # 211. Wolverine does the same exact thing, except he dodges an optic blast (optic blast >>>>>>>bullets) and still has enough time to pull Storm out of the way. Wolverine was also VERY distracted when he pulled out this feat as he had just discovered that Jean Grey was still alive. There, we've talked and Wolverine is easily still in the game.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Not only does that require super reflexes, but super speed to aid those super reflexes as well.
And it's a good thing Wolverine's speed and reflexes are both enhanced.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
All the training in the world shouldn't allow someone like Logan to catch a bullet with ease.
Training isn't what allows him to do it. How do you train a man to catch bullets??? Since no one can train you to do it it must be done via superpowers of some kind. Or just random DD/Bats BS.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
He still has a superhuman metabolism, and his greater strength allows his body to unload more inertia at once... thus making move in greater bursts. He can get tired, but Spiderman is all about movement.
Doesn't even Hulk get tired after a few massive leaps? Isn't his strength and endurance greater than Spidey?
Originally posted by Soljer
Wasn't that in a non cannon comic?
Written by Frank Tieri, one of the best Wolverine writers of our time. It may be non-cannon, but Tieri is still a reliable source for Wolverine. It even fit in nicely with Wolverine's whereabouts during WW2.

Doesn't matter anyway as Logan has blocked bullets with his hands and claws several times in normal books and his perception, reflexes, speed, are all highly developed enough to allow him to hit optic blasts like they are coach pitch slow-balls. (Wolverine Origins) If he can do that to Cyclops then bullets are a cake walk.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Actually, looking back, using the Ultimate Universe was a bad example. Forget I said that.

What Ifs aren't another universe... 😬


yes They are and they say so in the begging of them that they differ from the normal marvel universe.

Spiderman's reflexes can operate as much as forty times faster than a normal human being's - how fast is Wolverine's reflexes?

Originally posted by Dreampanther
Spiderman's reflexes can operate as much as forty times faster than a normal human being's - how fast is Wolverine's reflexes?

well he was stated to see bullets in slow motion

Originally posted by riceroost
Uncanny # 211. Wolverine does the same exact thing, except he dodges an optic blast (optic blast >>>>>>>bullets) and still has enough time to pull Storm out of the way. Wolverine was also VERY distracted when he pulled out this feat as he had just discovered that Jean Grey was still alive. There, we've talked and Wolverine is easily still in the game.
And it's a good thing Wolverine's speed and reflexes are both enhanced.
Training isn't what allows him to do it. How do you train a man to catch bullets??? Since no one can train you to do it it must be done via superpowers of some kind. Or just random DD/Bats BS.
Doesn't even Hulk get tired after a few massive leaps? Isn't his strength and endurance greater than Spidey?
Written by Frank Tieri, one of the best Wolverine writers of our time. It may be non-cannon, but Tieri is still a reliable source for Wolverine. It even fit in nicely with Wolverine's whereabouts during WW2.

Doesn't matter anyway as Logan has blocked bullets with his hands and claws several times in normal books and his perception, reflexes, speed, are all highly developed enough to allow him to hit optic blasts like they are coach pitch slow-balls. (Wolverine Origins) If he can do that to Cyclops then bullets are a cake walk.

Bull. I've seen the scan of the issue you speak of. The optic blast was't even fired before Wolverine knocked Storm down. He's not faster than the speed of light, not even by reaction time.

By some shitty writing, he was able to sense the attack coming before it came, and managed to get Storm down BEFORE Cyke fired. As crappy as this is, it makes so much more sense than Wolvie just plain dodging an already-fired, accurate optic blast.

What are some CANON examples of Wolverine catching bullets?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Bull. I've seen the scan of the issue you speak of. The optic blast was't even fired before Wolverine knocked Storm down. He's not faster than the speed of light, not even by reaction time.

By some shitty writing, he was able to sense the attack coming before it came, and managed to get Storm down BEFORE Cyke fired. As crappy as this is, it makes so much more sense than Wolvie just plain dodging an already-fired, accurate optic blast.

What are some CANON examples of Wolverine [B]catching bullets? [/B]


that issue was cannon. you have yet to prove it not. actualy scots blast was already fire because logan even mentions that he senses the vibration in the air

Originally posted by riceroost
Written by Frank Tieri, one of the best Wolverine writers of our time. It may be non-cannon, but Tieri is still a reliable source for Wolverine. It even fit in nicely with Wolverine's whereabouts during WW2.

Talk to your boy, Capt. He says it's non-canon. And he sounds pretty confident about it.

Originally posted by capt it up
that issue was cannon. you have yet to prove it not. actualy scots blast was already fire because logan even mentions that he senses the vibration in the air

It's literally and comically not possible for Wolverine to do that.

Are you ACTUALLY going to sit there and believe that Wolverine has light-speed reaction speed? 😐

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Talk to your boy, Capt. He says it's non-canon. And he sounds pretty confident about it.

well he wrong. it cannon all evidence points to it.