Kyle Rayner Vs Silver Surfer

Started by jrodslam21 pages

Surfer isnt exactly known for speedblitzes. He hardly ever fights at high speeds. Secondly, the ring informs the wearer of oncoming threats or just automatically protects the wearer. Thus its not a likely outcome that Surfer would speedblitz, fight at super high speeds or ko/kill Kyle with one shot.

Originally posted by Board Walker
SS is not going to break Kyle's shields, as Kyle was able to contain a big bang with them.

Originally posted by Board Walker
SS is not going to break Kyle's shields, as Kyle was able to contain a big bang with them.

but he could absorb or manipulate that energy to get off kyle's shield.

Originally posted by Galan777
The last I heard GL shields are automatic, so Kyle wouldnt really need to react in order for the shield to form

His shields may be automatic, but there still lies the possibility that Surfer can get to Kyle before his shields activate to form the boarder.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
His shields may be automatic, but there still lies the possibility that Surfer can get to Kyle before his shields activate to form the boarder.
unlikely

I meant his shields form automatically as in "nearly instant"

Originally posted by Galan777
unlikely

I meant his shields form automatically as in "nearly instant"

how so?

Originally posted by Soujaboy
how so?
the ring senses danger, which there would clearly be in this fight...... and the shield forms aroung kyle nearly instantly

Originally posted by Galan777
unlikely

I meant his shields form automatically as in "nearly instant"

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
but he could absorb or manipulate that energy to get off kyle's shield.

Originally posted by Galan777
unlikely

I meant his shields form automatically as in "nearly instant"

And the Surfer has travelled across galaxies in a 'near instant'

😬.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Kyle could do the same to Surfer

He flew threw a large wall of Vibranium rather easy thou. Silver Surfer can make force fields to.

Originally posted by golem370
He flew threw a large wall of Vibranium rather easy thou. Silver Surfer can make force fields to.

Do you know anything about Gls??????

What this fight comes down to is the few questions:

A) Could Surfer absorb/control/manipulate Oan energy? Fact is, all we really have to answer that is speculation, since Oan doesn't exist in marvel. However, we've NEVER come across an energy type that the Surfer couldn't manipulate, control, or absorb, so the precedent is set up in the 'affirmative' direction.

B) Could the Surfer speedblitz kyle? (Speed being one of the Surfer's only CLEAR advantages over kyle, everything else being almost equal). The answer to this one? Also speculation. Who the hell knows? Kyle has had shield up in an 'instant' just as many times as the surfer has 'instantly' done something. There is no way to accurately tell which way this should go.

😬.

Originally posted by Soljer
And the Surfer has travelled across galaxies in a 'near instant'

😬.

How many times on pannel has Surfer EVER speedblitzed someone?

Its an option of his that is really never used and not really effective

The ring is sentient and its reaction times are not entirely dependent upon Kyle, fueled by Kyle's will and Imagination only strengthens the ring and Kyle's symbiotic bond.

Kyle at the peek of his GL days was able to what ever he set his heart to do, as it was his imagination that allowed him to overcome all obstacles and limitations.

Kyle does not function at human limits or human speeds, Kyle even changed his Genetic make up so he could be a Meta Human permanently, their is no limit to his imagination.

Originally posted by Galan777
How many times on pannel has Surfer EVER speedblitzed someone?

Its an option of his that is really never used and not really effective

Just because someone HASN'T done something does NOT mean that they are incapable of doing it.

How many times has Spiderman punched his hand through the chest of an opponent, and ripped out his heart? Well...against many of the street level opponents he's pitted against on this forum, he would very well be CAPABLE of doing so.

Spiderman has the strength to rip someones chest cavity open.

Surfer has the speed and reflexes to speedblitz someone.

Kyle has the best ring out of the whole corps. He's never had the yellow weakness, he's been given ALL the upgrades (auto defense..etc) and his ring NEVER runs out of power. He always has energy to get him out of nearly anything.

GL has been shown to jack cosmic energy off Surfer and SS has been shown to be able to contain Oan energy if given to him but is absolutely helpless if he is attacked with the same energy.

Both are peaceful souls normally so it would be a good fight.

Originally posted by Soljer
Just because someone HASN'T done something does NOT mean that they are incapable of doing it.
All im saying is that we have no speedblitz feats to which we can judge Surfer.

So to say he could Speedblitz Kyle before the shield went up (instantly) is a pointless argument.

Originally posted by Galan777
All im saying is that we have no speedblitz feats to which we can judge Surfer.

So to say he could Speedblitz Kyle before the shield went up (instantly) is a pointless argument.

I'm not the one arguing it. I merely stated that the Surfer HAS reacted 'instantaneously' before. He has travelled GREAT distances in 'near instan[ces]'. To say that he COULDN'T speedblitz someone just as quickly is a baseless argument.

Originally posted by Galan777
All im saying is that we have no speedblitz feats to which we can judge Surfer.

So to say he could Speedblitz Kyle before the shield went up (instantly) is a pointless argument.

Actually it isn't. A large majority of this fight depends on if Surfer is fast enough to get to Kyle before the rings forms a boarder.

I don't think the ring can, but that all depends on what the ring has and hasn't reacted to.