Satan - The Prince of Darkness

Started by Lord Urizen52 pages
Originally posted by lord xyz
Why was what Hitler did Evil?

He made people suffer. That is why. Suffering is malignant. Evil is malignant. There is no positivity that comes out of it whether it be pleasure, education, growth, etc.

Torture is always an evil, because it is a direct violation of one's being and is the act of suffering to the extreme.

If Hitler is not evil, then NOBODY IS..and what we call "evil" is just a word for the things we do not accept.

Some people may argue that Hitler was insane, and therefore he could not truly be held accountable for his actions. Other people will argue that he knew full well what he did, and deserves to be looked at as the lowest form of human being.

Who knows....but what he did constitutes as evil in every diverse definition of the word.

I think evil is a weird term and I don't like using it. What Hitler did was clearly harmful and wrong.

People's rights cease to exist when they infringe upon the rights of others.

WHY IS IT THAT NO ONE IS WORSHIPPING THE ALMIGHTY SATAN ?

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
He made people suffer. That is why. Suffering is malignant. Evil is malignant. There is no positivity that comes out of it whether it be pleasure, education, growth, etc.
We all suffer, it's normal. But then again, what is suffering? When someone is hurt for a long time? I don't see that as evil. Okay, if someone does it to me, it could be classed as wrong, but if you think about it, mental suffering happens aswell and is done by everyone, to everyone, and people would agree that mental suffering and physical suffering are equally wrong.

And anyway, how can you call Hitler evil, if it wasn't for him killing all those Jews, we never would've gotten into the computer age. And you wouldn't be able to post that.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Torture is always an evil, because it is a direct violation of one's being and is the act of suffering to the extreme.
So is laughing at someone else's beliefs because they have been misinformed. Oh wait....
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
If Hitler is not evil, then NOBODY IS..and what we call "evil" is just a word for the things we do not accept.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Some people may argue that Hitler was insane, and therefore he could not truly be held accountable for his actions. Other people will argue that he knew full well what he did, and deserves to be looked at as the lowest form of human being.
Then both are wrong. Hitler is not evil, insane possibly, but the fact that he thought he was doing the right thing is something to think about. He was doing the right thing (that's what he thought), he saw Jews as evil just like you see him as evil, and some Americans see Iraq as evil. Don't say Hitler is evil or insane because if you saw 50 hitlers in one room, I'm sure you'd torture kill and use their bodies as soap products just like he ordered his men to do.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Who knows....but what he did constitutes as evil in every diverse definition of the word.
Well, seeing as evil is defined as an opinion, your statement back-fires.

Originally posted by lord xyz
We all suffer, it's normal. But then again, what is suffering? When someone is hurt for a long time? I don't see that as evil. Okay, if someone does it to me, it could be classed as wrong, but if you think about it, mental suffering happens aswell and is done by everyone, to everyone, and people would agree that mental suffering and physical suffering are equally wrong.

To cause someone unnecessary suffering is not good. I doubt you can justify how that could ever be a good thing.

Torture is never necessary.

Considering Hitler's goal of genocide, why couldn't he simply shoot them all in a line ? Why did he have to send them to camps to be tortured ?

Sadism....hello...

Originally posted by lord xyz
And anyway, how can you call Hitler evil, if it wasn't for him killing all those Jews, we never would've gotten into the computer age. And you wouldn't be able to post that.

Same goes for cloning. I don't care though. The means do not justify the ends.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I'm sure you'd torture kill and use their bodies as soap products just like he ordered his men to do.

❌ I don't have it in me to do that to anyone, even him. I'd probably just shoot him or something, but I wouldn't torture him. Keep note, I am not claiming shooting him isn't wrong or less evil...just incase you decided to put more words in my mouth.

OR something else in my mouth droolio

Originally posted by lord xyz
Well, seeing as evil is defined as an opinion, your statement back-fires.

If "evil" is just a subjective adjective it is still appropriate to label Hitler evil as he fits in to every definition of the term.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
To cause someone unnecessary suffering is not good. I doubt you can justify how that could ever be a good thing.
True
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Torture is never necessary.
To experience what torture is like is more great than to not experience what torture is like.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Considering Hitler's goal of genocide, why couldn't he simply shoot them all in a line ? Why did he have to send them to camps to be tortured ?
I don't know.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Same goes for cloning. I don't care though. The means do not justify the ends.
Why not?
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
❌ I don't have it in me to do that to anyone, even him. I'd probably just shoot him or something, but I wouldn't torture him. Keep note, I am not claiming shooting him isn't wrong or less evil...just incase you decided to put more words in my mouth.
[QUOTE=7782015]Originally posted by Lord Urizen
[B]So you wouldn't do what he did, but still do something just as evil....Interesting.
[QUOTE=7782015]Originally posted by Lord Urizen
[B]If "evil" is just a subjective adjective it is still appropriate to label Hitler evil as he fits in to every definition of the term.
To YOU. tongue_ss

Originally posted by lord xyz
True
To experience what torture is like is more great than to not experience what torture is like.

I'll take my chances and reject torture, thank you.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I don't know.

Hmmm....maybe he wasn't a good person..... ? 🙄

Originally posted by lord xyz

Why not?

Because it involved a concentrated cluster of unnecessary human torment. Why the f*ck are we even arguing this ?

The hypocrisy of Christianity angers you, but you can see justification in the Holocaust because we have some scientific breakthroughs as a result ?

You're a fkn moron.

Originally posted by lord xyz
To YOU. tongue_ss

So I take it that in your eyes, the word "evil" is just as valid as the word "ugly"...meaning they are just intepretations and do not have a factual basis behind them.

Could be. I am not saying evil is absolute. But, there's no proof that evil does not truly exist.

Cruelty exists, does it not ? Sadism exists, does it not ?

I know you will argue that Hatred does not exist, since you also argue that Love does not exist, so for the sake of avoiding a circular argument, I will just let that go.

However, you cannot argue that Hitler was beneficial. You cannot logically argue that he is this wondorful person. He violated Human Rights to the extreme. He tortured people....millions of people.

That by itself is reason enough for him to earn his label of disrespect and be classified as "evil". I do not care if you think evil is non-existant. The adjective, by itself, still fits the person being labelled.

The Enemy (Satan) comes to kill steal and destroy. (John 10:10)

He is the ultimate deceiver (Rev 12:9). He Hates God, Hates the Angels that Follow God, Hates Christians, and Hates non-christians too, even those who worship him. If Satan loved, he would do everything in his power to prevent mankind from going to hell, however his intent is to destroy us all. If Satan loved satan-worshipers, he would correct them and Point their worship to God, so their lives might be spared. However this is not Satan. Satan hates all mankind because God loves all mankind. Satan wants to steal, kill and destroy that which God loves the most.

Even looking at this with eyes of flesh, you want pleasure, you want love, but Satan is only gonna mess you up and he cares nothing for you. You are simply a tool to work against the Ultimate Good which is God

Originally posted by LFBC_Gir
The Enemy (Satan) comes to kill steal and destroy. (John 10:10)

He is the ultimate deceiver (Rev 12:9). He Hates God, Hates the Angels that Follow God, Hates Christians, and Hates non-christians too, even those who worship him. If Satan loved, he would do everything in his power to prevent mankind from going to hell, however his intent is to destroy us all. If Satan loved satan-worshipers, he would correct them and Point their worship to God, so their lives might be spared. However this is not Satan. Satan hates all mankind because God loves all mankind. Satan wants to steal, kill and destroy that which God loves the most.

Even looking at this with eyes of flesh, you want pleasure, you want love, but Satan is only gonna mess you up and he cares nothing for you. You are simply a tool to work against the Ultimate Good which is God

yawn

NEXT

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I do not care if you think evil is non-existant. The adjective, by itself, still fits the person being labelled.
You should've said that at the very beginning, I agree with you on this. Therefore, I am ending the debate.

Originally posted by lord xyz
You should've said that at the very beginning, I agree with you on this. Therefore, I am ending the debate.

Um..that is what I have been saying all along. The essense of my point was that Hitler fits every basic description of evil. Glad you agree.

*sigh* 😐

Originally posted by lord xyz
*sigh* 😐

It's okay. You'll have sex one day ✅

Then you will loosen up, and it will be all better !

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
It's okay. You'll have sex one day ✅

Then you will loosen up, and it will be all better !

Hey! he's only 15, so he has a long ways to go. 😱 😆

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Hey! he's only 15, so he has a long ways to go. 😱 😆
14, my birthday isn't until January 23rd.

Originally posted by lord xyz
14, my birthday isn't until January 23rd.

I was upping you a year, so don't complain until your my age. 😂

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I was upping you a year, so don't complain until your my age. 😂
But 14 to 15 is a big difference if you think about it. I mean when one year of puberty passes, you change as much as 10 years in adulthood. But, since my birthday's not too far off, I'll let you off.

If Satan is the prince of darkness, then I'm ready .... ready right now...........

*shows resume*

Sounds like fun.......

Originally posted by LFBC_Gir
Even looking at this with eyes of flesh, you want pleasure, you want love, but Satan is only gonna mess you up and he cares nothing for you. You are simply a tool to work against the Ultimate Good which is God

So... you have looked Satan in the eye then?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Hey! he's only 15, so he has a long ways to go. 😱 😆

😆

Hey I had sex when I was 14....maybe that's why I'm screwed up today ! lol