Kas'im versus Count Dooku

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]Care to provide some proof?

And? Vodo was actually holding back in their fight, Kun was fighting with no limitations.

You see, what you're doing is using your interpretation of the comic, and trying to pass it off as how the fight actually happened. What I saw was Vodo being able to block everything Kun threw at him perfectly, I saw frustration on Kun's face when everything he was throwing at Vodo was completely ineffective, I saw the fight being described as 'furious' in the next issue, which indicates that it was a somewhat close fight. I'd also like to point out that there's no telling how long that fight took, as it is a comic.

It's really not irrelevant, you were saying that if Kas'im was anything special, he should have been able to destroy Bane because Bane had never been up against his form, and you then used the Kun - Vodo duel as an analogy. Kun was clearly not able to pwn Vodo with his alien saberstaff form, and so your original premise fails. It's all pretty simple really

Whatever, I can't continue the argument without swtimeline to give me the comic scans, since its down...again...so I concede the point for now, however, my other Analogy still stands Anakin v Dooku.

Funny, all I remember was The One describing the attack as taking out one scouting party, what are you talking about?

In game quote please, I always though he said armies.

There could have been a thunderstorm, it could have simply been use of TK.

No, I've already proved this wrong before, had he been talking about a thunderstorm or drawing lightning down he would have mentioned the clouds, rain and thunder that accompany it, however in the same breath that he talks about the lightning destroying them he talks about Revans magical powers.


I wasn't denying that Revan knew the attack, I was just pointing out that there's no proof that Revan's attack on the Rakatan scouting party was the same attack, or of the same magnitude, thereby destroying your argument that Revan is more powerful than all the sith in PoD who preformed the ritual combined.

No you didn't the part about me saying Revan > The Entire BoD minus Bane and Kaan was pure speculation on my part not to be taken as an argument, the argument was that it took all those lords to do something Revan could do by himself. Its a Logical Deduction to assume that the storms were one in the same, since as I pointed out Revan taught Bane the storm, Revan performed the storm, The Lords that did it minus Kaan and Bane were overall jokes and some even pathetic. Its not that much of a leap of fate to believe this.

Sure, she was good and all but nothing special, and the fact that she was able to completely own Obi-Wan with the force doesn't bode too well for his defence now does it. And she does it in Clone Wars: The New Face of The War pt2, pg9.

Noted

1. The quote says 'throughout the universe', hardly drawing power from the entire universe.

Yes but still universe spans multiple galaxies and still even with a kick out of that power he sent Anakin flying across a room.

2. You seem to be confusing a jedi's connection to the force, how strong they are in the force and their own personal power with how a jedi manipulates the energy field around them that is the force. Look a little deeper, there's nothing different between a jedi using their 'raw power', or a jedi 'gathering the force from throughout the universe', one is just written more poetically. This is all basic stuff, read up on how the force works.

Dont patronize me, the point is Dooku could summon power from thought the entire universe, and its stated multiple times in this key phrasing so there goes the poetic argument, NOW Im not doubting the feeding of the living force and being able to draw in the force, But Dooku does this on MUCH larger scale then every other Jedi, and that power was enough with a flick to tool Obi Wan and with a kick to send Anakin Skywalker flying across a room, Once again if Dooku unleashed an attack to which that of Bane did Kas'im would be destroyed.

2. Bias is clouding your mind, all Dooku has ever shown with the force is great mastery, not raw power. First, you're gonna have to prove that his raw power is anywhere near Bane's.

Bias has clouded MY mind? Your NAMED after the ****ing character in question and IM biased? LOL. No, I don't have to prove this, Dooku doesn't need the raw power of Bane

"He called upon the force, gathering it to himself and wrapping himself within it. He breathes it in and held it whirling inside his heart, clenching down upon it until he could feel the spin of the galaxy. Until he became the axis of the Universe. This was the real power of the dark side...He drew power into his innermost being until the Force itself existed only to serve his will."

The only time RAW power has overcome the great mastery and refine ment to my knowledge is Anakin v Dooku and Anakin is an anomaly. Bane did none of the things Dooku did in his force wave that Dooku did, What the book states Bane did was simply "Gathering during the Blademasters speech." That is not what Dooku did, he not only just gathered it but made the force completely sub servant to himself, had he unleashed this power in the same way Bane did, the power that with a kick sent Anakin flying across a room, the power that with a flick of his wrist sent OB1 flying, the power that with the pointing of his finger in a pin cushioned size had Assaji on her knees begging for her life. The power and skill that allowed him to best Mace Windu, if he did the same as Bane the results would be twice as devastating.

Note: Anyone can pick my arguement or simply disregard it as I wont be on my comp for a few days.

Whatever, I can't continue the argument without swtimeline to give me the comic scans, since its down...again...so I concede the point for now, however, my other Analogy still stands Anakin v Dooku.

^Here they are.

All right, so the people who disagree are:

Darth Sexy
Darth Glentract
Dessel
RocasAtoll

I did give a long argument on the Battlemasters Know All Forms, and I feel I have given more than enough evidence to show that BMs know all forms. If there are more than one lightsaber instructor, I have shown that BM needs to all forms. If there isn't, I have shown why they know all forms. And I have showed Dooku and Cin Drallig knowing all these forms as well. Now, I am not saying you guys didn't do anything. You guys argue well, and I know you want a "credible" source, but I'm not sure what you guys are saying. I have used several sources to show this. Yes, it's not directly stated, but it's obviously implied.

So do you concede or not?????

Why would we? All you've done is provide an unreliable source and name dropped a few comics. That is really all your argument is, and I'm not going to concede.

The sad thing Rocas is I already destroyed your arguments. Of course, I'll keep arguing against you but as for you, I have already won. The others I haven't yet.

And those sources are all I need.

Originally posted by Prodigal Knight
The sad thing Rocas is I already destroyed your arguments. Of course, I'll keep arguing against you but as for you, I have already won. The others I haven't yet.

And those sources are all I need.

When the fvck did you destroy my arguments?

When we first started arguing in like fifth page or something. It was just you and me. All you kept saying is "prove it" and I did. But you have a chance of proving me wrong since you never conceded.