Kas'im versus Yoda

And this helps your argument how?

Apparently Kas'im was better than Palp? Well, Palp is a master of every weapon and every style. Just like Sim

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Apparently Kas'im was better than Palp? Well, Palp is a master of every weapon and every style. Just like Sim

Except "every" can be interpreted any way you want. Nothing remotely suggests he knows Jar'Kai, obviously not Vaapad, and double bladed saber fighting. So that quote means nothing.

jar'krai's a style last I checked...

Originally posted by Lightsnake
jar'krai's a style last I checked...

I believe the jar'kai style was introduced after the sourcebook was written? And even so, you have no argument with a quote like "everything". One quote doesn't make it canon, nor is there any evidence that Sidious knew the jar'kai style or how to fight with double blades.

However, he taught Maul, who used Jar'Kai. He has to know how to show the Zabrak the moves and stuff.

Jar'KRai was a style when Gillard made the quote...and far as I know, two handed fighting was around since......Dark Forces

Originally posted by Prodigal Knight
However, he taught Maul, who used Jar'Kai. He has to know how to show the Zabrak the moves and stuff.

Maul never used Jar'kai, and it's very unlikely he taught Maul the double blade, unless you have proof of it.

Didn't Maul fight very briefly with two blades until Obi-wan disarmed him?

and how else would Maul learn the DBL?

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Didn't Maul fight very briefly with two blades until Obi-wan disarmed him?

and how else would Maul learn the DBL?

No, he didn't. And I don't know, considering Sidious was a master of the single blade.

Well, according to Gillard Palp's a master of all weapons. You really think someone like Palpatine would leave himself at any disadvantage? Where'd Maul learn to fight? Where'd he learn to use the Dark Side? Who tuaght him Tera Kasi?

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Well, according to Gillard Palp's a master of all weapons. You really think someone like Palpatine would leave himself at any disadvantage? Where'd Maul learn to fight? Where'd he learn to use the Dark Side? Who tuaght him Tera Kasi?

It doesn't matter what I think lightsnake, but there's no evidence of Palpatine ever mastering Jar'Kai or the double blade. In fact show me an instance of someone during the PT era using the Jar'Kai style. You can't? Oh ok, so why would Sidious need to master it?

You mean minus the "He mastered the forms and styles of the Lightsaber," Nick saying He's a master of every form and style and what his apprentice did?
And PT era using Jar'KRai style? Ok, Anakin. A'Sharad Hett, too. Oh, Sora Bulq....General Grievous. Dooku was originally intended to use Jar'Krai. Asajj Ventress was a major one. Sev'Rance Tann...Mace Windu and Depa Billaba on Haruun Kal, Aayla Secura, Joclad Danva, Serra Keto, Komari Vosa, Micah Giett- a former council member...

Possibly a few more

Originally posted by Lightsnake
You mean minus the "He mastered the forms and styles of the Lightsaber," Nick saying He's a master of every form and style and what his apprentice did?
And PT era using Jar'KRai style? Ok, Anakin. A'Sharad Hett, too. Oh, Sora Bulq....General Grievous. Dooku was originally intended to use Jar'Krai. Asajj Ventress was a major one. Sev'Rance Tann...Mace Windu and Depa Billaba on Haruun Kal, Aayla Secura, Joclad Danva, Serra Keto, Komari Vosa, Micah Giett- a former council member...

Possibly a few more

And Sidious quit using a saber by TPM, so I rest my case. Anything he would have mastered, would have been before TPM.

Since when? Where's the freaking proof there? He was still alone often enough, remember Sithisis? He was perfecting rituals and other Sith knowledge, why not the saber? He was prepared for a fight as evidenced by his retrieving his saber in the ROTS novelization...

Seriously now

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Since when? Where's the freaking proof there? He was still alone often enough, remember Sithisis? He was perfecting rituals and other Sith knowledge, why not the saber? He was prepared for a fight as evidenced by his retrieving his saber in the ROTS novelization...

Seriously now

Who cares what he was prepared for? As escape said, he didnt touch a saber after TPM. He became the chancellor and had absolutely no time to do this. Proof is your "everything" quite is ambiguous and doesn't help your argument any.

Can you provide proof of this?
He had time to retreat to the basement and do kooky 'summon a giant worm to eat me while I create storms across the galaxy' rituals...

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Can you provide proof of this?
He had time to retreat to the basement and do kooky 'summon a giant worm to eat me while I create storms across the galaxy' rituals...

I don't know how canon sithisis is, but as a chancellor it is VERY UNLIKELY he had time to just perfect lightsaber combat. So again you claim he knows everything, now prove it. You certainly love to parade around that quote. SO let me give you an example. If he knew everything and luke didn't, why is Luke>>>>>Sidious?

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
I don't know how canon sithisis is, but as a chancellor it is VERY UNLIKELY he had time to just perfect lightsaber combat. So again you claim he knows everything, now prove it. You certainly love to parade around that quote. SO let me give you an example. If he knew everything and luke didn't, why is Luke>>>>>Sidious?

see? exactly, if luke didnt master everything then why did luke >>>>> sidious, esp lotf luke

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
I don't know how canon sithisis is, but as a chancellor it is VERY UNLIKELY he had time to just perfect lightsaber combat. So again you claim he knows everything, now prove it. You certainly love to parade around that quote. SO let me give you an example. If he knew everything and luke didn't, why is Luke>>>>>Sidious?

Because GL hath spoken and Luke's the freaking grandson of the Force.
And I did prove it: Those quotes, fully canon, prove it for me.
and Luke's power skyrocketed in Palpatine's tutelage, last I checked.

And once more: The Chancellor has enough time to summon Sith ghosts and do crazy Sith rituals. It's a stretch to think he MIGHT be practicing a saber when he's alone? I wouldn't think he'd have time to grab a black hood and chill with Dooku in his secret underground lair.