Kas'im versus Yoda

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Which helps Kas'im how exactly? Oh, right, your quotes meaning nothing.

Ah, and Yoda did more impresive feats than Kas'im with his saber. Logic, logic

For someone that preaches logic, you sure don't have any..

My quotes are relevant to a saber fight. Kas'im is the perfect warrior, referring to his lightsaber combat. He has more knowledge in the saber arts, more techniques. Yoda's feats are irrelevant to this fight. By your logic Naga Sadow=God because his illusions.

That doesn't quite make sense...

Originally posted by Prodigal Knight
That doesn't quite make sense...

Lightsnake is saying that because Kas'im didn't do feat X and Yoda did, Yoda=better. So just because Naga Sadow created illusions on an insane scale, he's better than someone like Exar Kun?

You both need to chill.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Experience yes, Knowledge escape? They have both mastered the 7 forms, but there's no evidence of Yoda mastering the double bladed saber nor the Jar'kai style, therefore at this point Kas'im has more knowledge.

Perhaps. Kas'im's knowledge of lightsaber forms may equal or exceed Yoda's own, but Yoda's experience in combat and fighting with lightsabers FAR (!) exceeds Kas'im's own.

Experience does not always equal victory, I've said it before. But when you're dealing with someone like Yoda, it might. Besides, Yoda will win fairly comfortably in the second round.

Ah, so Yoda's feats proving his skill with a saber mean nothing?

Right. You're just saying because he had DBL and Jar'Krai he'd win? That makes no sense. We have to assume Yoda wouldn't know how to counter a dBL and Jar'Krai after 900 years of perfecting his abilities and becoming the top duelist in the fighting prime of the Jedi.

How's that for dueling relevance?

Where does it say it's the fighting prime of the Jedi Order, Lightsnake?

http://www.starwars.com/episode-i/bts/me1/6.html

Right here

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Ah, so Yoda's feats proving his skill with a saber mean nothing?

Right. You're just saying because he had DBL and Jar'Krai he'd win? That makes no sense. We have to assume Yoda wouldn't know how to counter a dBL and Jar'Krai after 900 years of perfecting his abilities and becoming the top duelist in the fighting prime of the Jedi.

How's that for dueling relevance?

Omg stop with the "top duelist of the Jedi" crap. He couldn't do shit against Sidious, and Kas'im is more than likely a better duelist than Sidious.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
http://www.starwars.com/episode-i/bts/me1/6.html

Right here

That doesn't say it's the prime for LIGHTSABER FIGHTING.

Sidious who had mastered all the forms of the saber and killed three of the best Jedi swordsman in moments?

Want a Nick Gillard quote? A master of every weapon and every style? And considering Yoda disarmed Palpatine...

Originally posted by RocasAtoll
That doesn't say it's the prime for LIGHTSABER FIGHTING.

Advent had a source. And, to this day, I still think it's on an AotC commentary. Or on the special features DVD.

'Fighting' In the 'Prime of the Jedi
'

Open and shut

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Sidious who had mastered all the forms of the saber and killed three of the best Jedi swordsman in moments?

Want a Nick Gillard quote? A master of every weapon and every style? And considering Yoda disarmed Palpatine...

Yes, give me a CANON quote that states Sidious MASTERED all forms as opposed to knowing them all. And according to the book and the movies, he didn't disarm him.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
'Fighting' In the 'Prime of the Jedi
'

Open and shut

Prime of the Jedi can refer to ANYTHING. May it be force powers, or diplomatic prowess.

Sure! The Dark Side Sourcebook claims he had 'mastered the forms and styles of the Lightsaber,' and a quick search on TFN:

"Palpatine is ambidextrous with his saber. He's THAT good."-Gillard

"Sidious is a master of every weapon and every style."- Gillard

Yes, Rocas, which is why Lucas used a direct reference to combat ability there...

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Sure! The Dark Side Sourcebook claims he had 'mastered the forms and styles of the Lightsaber,' and a quick search on TFN:

"Palpatine is ambidextrous with his saber. He's THAT good."-Gillard

"Sidious is a master of every weapon and every style."- Gillard

Mastered the forms? That means mastered all forms? Hardly.. Not Vaapad, probably not Juyo.

And I would NOT call Gillard a credible source.

why not? He's someone official in LFL.
And 'Mastered the Forms.' Not 'some of them' Wasn't he using Juyo against Mace? Didn't he teach Maul Juyo?

I remember Advent bringing up a few points about Nick Gillard being shit in terms of credibility in terms of lightsaber combat, I'll have to find it.

I'm sure she did. The point stands, though: It's official and coupled the other one in universe...