Spiderman vs Sabertooth

This is good, I haven’t owned a fanboy in a very long time. I see you have all the traits of one, terrible spelling, terrible diction, terrible comprehension. Your lack of reading skills makes you interpret that I think that Spiderman is unhittable, but everything is like Chaos Theory, there is a chance upon a chance of everything happening. Now let the lesson begin as another fanboy gets owned.

Originally posted by carver9
Ok Tha C-Master you make some good points if they actually was true.

I know they are good points because they are true, you have nothing to support your argument but the impending bias that Spiderman can’t operate at Superhuman speeds despite him statistically being able to do so, logically being able to do so, and featwise able as well. You Logan fanboys are amazing, because if you don’t like something it is ok to disregard it, but for some reason or another it is Ok for us to watch Wolverine get hit by Hulk and be fine with it, but get hit by streets and not. Blatant utter hypocrisy that is as misinformed and misdirected as your post.

Originally posted by carver9
If spiderman hold back in the speed department, why did he easily cirlcled around morlun punches when he was getting clobbered, hmmmm that makes you think.

Originally posted by carver9
What happened was spiderman almost got beaten to death, he should have pressed that button on the back of his neck and used his flash speed and dodged morlun punches.

Originally posted by carver9
Spiderman is overrated on this site more than anyone I have ever seen, I thought superman fans was bias but you all have them won by a long shot.

Wolverine beating Metallo, Godzilla, 5 elder preds, Carnage, Namor (who flies), Iron Man, Herc, the list just goes on and on. Ironically you haven’t been on here very long anyways for your opinion to be taken seriously.

Originally posted by carver9
I have seen people say that spiderman can circle around silver surfer all day.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t427731.html

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=316447&perpage=40&highlight=Wolverine+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

Look at all those moronic fanboys in there defending their love, all those people with Wolverine in his name. They always did border on homoerotic, they just won’t let threads die… the mod has to step in to keep the homoeroticism down. I

Originally posted by carver9
I have seen people say that spiderman can circle around hulk all day,

But wait, I’m not here to have an intellectual debate with you, I’m here to prove you wrong about how moronic Wolverine fanboys are… so without further ado…

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=359525&perpage=40&highlight=metallo+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

That was sure funny…

Even when he has no chance people try to defend him…

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=364596&perpage=40&highlight=metallo+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

Ultimate proof, Wolverine and Spiderman vs Superman, let’s see which fanboys are actually worse…

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=368145&perpage=40&highlight=metallo+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30968&perpage=40&highlight=Logan87+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

Damn… how about that. Then you account that people think Wolverine beats the Hulk and trade’s hits with him… I mean damn, it almost sounds… I dunno… stupid…

Oh, and my personal fave…

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=357125&perpage=40&highlight=Logan87+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

Originally posted by carver9
when this guy almost get stalemated by a old man in a vulture uniform. It dont make any sense to me. Like I said before sabertooth will get a cut off spiderman and it would happen easily. I almost forgot, I did see a very,very, very short fight between spiderman and x-23 and guess what happened, it ended with x-23 claws against spiderman kneck, ending with him complimenting her speed. Im glad that she's a hero or we would have been 1 less of a spider, with flash speed.

Oh yea, and the worst of all… Wolverine vs. Iceman. Since Wolverine can sit naked in the cold, he can now beat an Omega level mutant.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=381398&perpage=40&highlight=scotsmn+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

Originally posted by Ricodrayz
Spiderman is to freaking fast. He can not be touched! The man has spider sense and also has enough strength to KO anybody.

Spiderman could kill Wolverine and all his friends with one finger, so I don't see how Sabertooth can even keep up with Spiderman. Yes, I will ignore his upgrades because he is a Wolverine Villian. Anything or anybody to do with Wolverine loses to Spiderman you freaking Wolverine Fanboys, get it through your head.

Spiderman is not over rated and is the most hated character on the boards so everyone trie sto make him lose. Even IGN had a tourniment with alot of Marvel characters and Spiderman ended up beating Magneto but then the people at IGn got mad and said this!

"October 23, 2006 - We at IGN Comics are able to accept a lot of odd things. When we left Gambit off of our Top 25 X-Men list, we understood when many of you wanted to cut off our limbs. When we review dozens of comics each week, we figure some of you will be mad that we didn't get around to Krypto. We even (almost) understand how many of you are still under the impression that Onslaught was a great idea. Somehow, somewhere, we have developed an understanding of these opinions.

But there is no way Spider-Man wins our Ultimate Marvel tournament.
While we are sure there were other injustices in the voting, the fact that Peter Parker managed to defeat the Hulk, Silver Surfer, Thor and Magneto is just a bit much for us to handle. We thought we'd walk you through our choices for the tournament. We are willing to accept a fairly broad range of scenarios for these fights."

How dare these people take a win from Spiderman. Grr, people underestimate Spiderman Greaty. I hate Wolverine Fanboys 😠 😠 Curse you Srank 😠

*Goes back to sleep*

I know, but Wolverine’s too busy breaking the sound barrier and taking nukes. Because it is Spiderman, we’ll say the weapon x characters win. Even if it’s sandman/hydro because they are busy jumping 50 feet in the air and other things… 🙄 You say you like them equally but it always seems you’re making fun of Spiderman. Of course when I call you on it like now, you are going to take the innocent route.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
This is good, I haven’t owned a fanboy in a very long time. I see you have all the traits of one, terrible spelling, terrible diction, terrible comprehension. Your lack of reading skills makes you interpret that I think that Spiderman is unhittable, but everything is like Chaos Theory, there is a chance upon a chance of everything happening. Now let the lesson begin as another fanboy gets owned.

I know they are good points because they are true, you have nothing to support your argument but the impending bias that Spiderman can’t operate at Superhuman speeds despite him statistically being able to do so, logically being able to do so. You Logan fanboys are amazing, because if you don’t like something it is ok to disregard it, but for some reason or another it is Ok for us to watch Wolverine get hit by Hulk and be fine with it, but get hit by streets and not. Blatant utter hypocrisy that is as misinformed and misdirected as your post.

Well thinking isn’t your specialty seeing as you are a Wolverine fanboy, you have issues with your cognitive thought process. There were several reasons Spiderman didn’t “circle around him”. One being that Morlun is Superhumanly fast, reason two being that he drained him, reason three being he fought for well over a day. But as usual like the other fanboys you negate that when it goes into your premise for deduction. You really don’t want to play the rhetoric game with me, I’m much better at it than you.

What you fail to understand is that Spiderman can get hit by superfast people, it’s just much harder for him to get hit by those slower than him unless he’s jobbing. Spiderman holds back a lot, which is pretty obvious seeing as his attitude is to mess around. But you are a Spiderman hater, so your opinion is null.

Typical, the people who argue against Spiderman in every thread are almost always Wolverine fanboys. They hate him because he takes Wolverine’s spot of #1 away from his fans. And if you think Spiderman is overrated on this site, you obviously haven’t met the power of the Wolveridiot. I will explain this phenomenon below.

Wolverine beating Metallo, Godzilla, 5 elder preds, Carnage, Namor (who flies), Iron Man, Herc, the list just goes on and on. Ironically you haven’t been on here very long anyways for your opinion to be taken seriously.

Check these fanboys out then… amazing no?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t427731.html

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=316447&perpage=40&highlight=Wolverine+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

Look at all those moronic fanboys in there defending their love, all those people with Wolverine in his name. They always did border on homoerotic, they just won’t let threads die… the mod has to step in to keep the homoeroticism down. I

Can Spiderman dodge Hulk some? Sure, he has precognition, you’d be surprised at what he can dodge. Hulk can move faster in a straight line, but there’s a difference between speed and quickness.

But wait, I’m not here to have an intellectual debate with you, I’m here to prove you wrong about how moronic Wolverine fanboys are… so without further ado…

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=359525&perpage=40&highlight=metallo+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

That was sure funny…

Even when he has no chance people try to defend him…

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=364596&perpage=40&highlight=metallo+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

Ultimate proof, Wolverine and Spiderman vs Superman, let’s see which fanboys are actually worse…

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=368145&perpage=40&highlight=metallo+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30968&perpage=40&highlight=Logan87+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

Damn… how about that. Then you account that people think Wolverine beats the Hulk and trade’s hits with him… I mean damn, it almost sounds… I dunno… stupid…

Oh, and my personal fave…

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=357125&perpage=40&highlight=Logan87+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

Yea, we all know Spiderman’s a killer. We better watch out for that dear though…

Oh yea, and the worst of all… Wolverine vs. Iceman. Since Wolverine can sit naked in the cold, he can now beat an Omega level mutant.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=381398&perpage=40&highlight=scotsmn+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

I know, but Wolverine’s too busy breaking the sound barrier and taking nukes. Because it is Spiderman, we’ll say the weapon x characters win. Even if it’s sandman/hydro because they are busy jumping 50 feet in the air and other things… 🙄 You say you like them equally but it always seems you’re making fun of Spiderman. Of course when I call you on it like now, you are going to take the innocent route.

Well, it is better than Spiderman beating Magneto,Thor, and Silver Surfer; with his God like speed and Strength 😆 Oh and Wolverine is not in the match; if you were wondering. I meant to ask you something though. How many chickens do you need, to sacrifice to your Spider God 😖hifty:

Just joking Dude 😆

Find the links to Spiderman beating those people.

I remember Spiderman vs Magneto because you made it... it didn't go to well in the eyes of Spiderman supporters.

High Pope of Church Wolvigod. 😆 j/k

I have to do some shit on my forum.... 🙁

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Find the links to Spiderman beating those people.

I remember Spiderman vs Magneto because you made it... it didn't go to well in the eyes of Spiderman supporters.

High Pope of Church Wolvigod. 😆 j/k

I have to do some shit on my forum.... 🙁

and on the 7th Day, God created Spiderman

Oh yeah your forum. How much people you have now?

Originally posted by Ricodrayz
I posted those scans so much; then people got mad and told me to stop 😆 It's all in the Spiderman Respect thread 😆

and on the 7th Day, God created Spiderman

Oh yeah your forum. How much people you have now?

I have quite a few considering it hasn't been up for long. 21, all are active posters...

I'm impressed, did you look?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I love hypocrisy. BTW I'm not the one who goes around saying that Spiderman is unhittable or anything like that, so don't mix me up with others. I think Peter stands a odd chance of getting hit, but I think he should be hit much less than he does when he fights peak humans.

You said Spider-man would have no problem dodging Sabretooth unless Victor was wearing the Venom symbiot. Sounds like you think he is pretty much untouchable to me.

Why should Spider-man be hit less then he currently is when he is fighting peak humans? Skilled martial fighters have been able to trade blows with Spider-man since the character's inference. As I have been known to say often examples of Spider-man being hit by skilled street level heroes are far more numerous examples showing other wise and they predate them as well. Spider-man fighting someone like Juggernaught or the Hulk and showing the ability the effortless dodge all of their attacks is the except not the rule. Look at Spider-man first fight with Rhino and his first fight with Moltenman, they both walked all over them and neither of them were particularly fast... even Scorpion wasn't attributed super speed in his first appearance. When Spider-man fights a power house who can kill him with one hit he dodges simply because the plot dictates that he needs to in order to survive, it is the very definition of PIS.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Well the same thing can be said about Wolverine, his healing factor is WAY taken out of proportion, Wolverine and Sabretooth are more often hurt by street levelers, but the superfans want to use only his high showings. But when Spiderman's side does the same thing it's taken out of proportion? That's so funny. Because there are dozens of examples to the contrary to Logan and Creed's uber feats. But since you and Wolverine 1-1000 don't like it, they don't count? Cute. This is exactly why I hate feat wars. There's no way you'll convince me that Spidemran can't dodge Sabes when he's dodged guys like Carnage and Ocks tentacles quite often, and there's no way I'm convincing people who think Logan can break the sound barrier that he's getting hurt with by hits from Spiderman, although others do it time and time again. So this will just get circular, too bad I'm not bothering to fuel it further.

But that isn't true, Wolverine isn't hurt by street level characters more often the he takes hits from bricks. In fact Wolverine has tangled with the Hulk more times then he has fought Captain America, Daredevil, Black Panther and Elektra combined. Wolverine taking hits from high class characters, despite what you may think, are for more numerous then the few times the Punisher has given him a hard time.

Please don't try to make Spider-man out to be an victim of under estimation CM, because that couldn't be farther from the Truth. In fact for the most part I let you Spider-man fans run with the crazy notions you have in your heads. Do you seriously think, even for a moment, that I couldn't post ten scans of the spider-sense being a vague, less then accurate early warning sense for every one scan of the spider-sense being a complex warning system bordering on precog? The formula of every Spider-man argument is using Spider-man highs and comparing them against his opponents lows and the sad thing is you guys are so far gone you don't even realise it.

I can't write any more at the moment. My web browser keeps refreashing for some reason and I had to copy and paste what I was writing constantly to even get this... it is really annoying. Once I fix it I will finish my responce.

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Me using Spiderman's high's versus his lows. I find that odd since most Spiderman supporters seldom rely on feat wars, especially myself. That title definately goes to the Wolverine fans, using high end feats and ignoring others. This is a forum where PIS is set up, so no matter how many times crap happens its crap, maybe you should see that for logan as you do Spiderman. And stop amping lightweighters beyond their abilities.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You said Spider-man would have no problem dodging Sabretooth unless Victor was wearing the Venom symbiot. Sounds like you think he is pretty much untouchable to me.

Bullshit, I said he wouldn't have a serious problem dodging him. Unless his precog amounts to nothing. Don't give me that crap, when you think Logan is undamageable.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Why should Spider-man be hit less then he currently is when he is fighting peak humans? Skilled martial fighters have been able to trade blows with Spider-man since the character's inference. As I have been known to say often examples of Spider-man being hit by skilled street level heroes are far more numerous examples showing other wise and they predate them as well. Spider-man fighting someone like Juggernaught or the Hulk and showing the ability the effortless dodge all of their attacks is the except not the rule. Look at Spider-man first fight with Rhino and his first fight with Moltenman, they both walked all over them and neither of them were particularly fast... even Scorpion wasn't attributed super speed in his first appearance. When Spider-man fights a power house who can kill him with one hit he dodges simply because the plot dictates that he needs to in order to survive, it is the very definition of PIS.

Spidersense works very differently and is underwritten to save the artist of writing it, do you know how it works?

Look at Wolverine's first fight with Hulk, or his KO with thing.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
But that isn't true, Wolverine isn't hurt by street level characters more often the he takes hits from bricks. In fact Wolverine has tangled with the Hulk more times then he has fought Captain America, Daredevil, Black Panther and Elektra combined. Wolverine taking hits from high class characters, despite what you may think, are for more numerous then the few times the Punisher has given him a hard time.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Please don't try to make Spider-man out to be an victim of under estimation CM, because that couldn't be farther from the Truth. In fact for the most part I let you Spider-man fans run with the crazy notions you have in your heads. Do you seriously think, even for a moment, that I couldn't post ten scans of the spider-sense being a vague, less then accurate early warning sense for every one scan of the spider-sense being a complex warning system bordering on precog? The formula of every Spider-man argument is using Spider-man highs and comparing them against his opponents lows and the sad thing is you guys are so far gone you don't even realise it.

But that wouldn't matter to you seeing as you think Logan beats Godzilla. Please. I don't argue Spiderman not getting hit all of the time, I don't argue him too fast for thor or any of these high showings. Most here agree he loses to Ock. Wolverine fanboys are the worst of the forum, clearly you didn't read those threads very well. I think you need to again. 😆

People wonder why he's mistreated, his fanboys are for the most part ridiculous on all accounts.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I can't write any more at the moment. My web browser keeps refreashing for some reason and I had to copy and paste what I was writing constantly to even get this... it is really annoying. Once I fix it I will finish my responce.

Double post.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
This is good, I haven’t owned a fanboy in a very long time. I see you have all the traits of one, terrible spelling, terrible diction, terrible comprehension. Your lack of reading skills makes you interpret that I think that Spiderman is unhittable, but everything is like Chaos Theory, there is a chance upon a chance of everything happening. Now let the lesson begin as another fanboy gets owned.

I know they are good points because they are true, you have nothing to support your argument but the impending bias that Spiderman can’t operate at Superhuman speeds despite him statistically being able to do so, logically being able to do so, and featwise able as well. You Logan fanboys are amazing, because if you don’t like something it is ok to disregard it, but for some reason or another it is Ok for us to watch Wolverine get hit by Hulk and be fine with it, but get hit by streets and not. Blatant utter hypocrisy that is as misinformed and misdirected as your post.

Well thinking isn’t your specialty seeing as you are a Wolverine fanboy, you have issues with your cognitive thought process. There were several reasons Spiderman didn’t “circle around him”. One being that Morlun is Superhumanly fast, reason two being that he drained him, reason three being he fought for well over a day. But as usual like the other fanboys you negate that when it goes into your premise for deduction. You really don’t want to play the rhetoric game with me, I’m much better at it than you.

What you fail to understand is that Spiderman can get hit by superfast people, it’s just much harder for him to get hit by those slower than him unless he’s jobbing. Spiderman holds back a lot, which is pretty obvious seeing as his attitude is to mess around. But you are a Spiderman hater, so your opinion is null.

Typical, the people who argue against Spiderman in every thread are almost always Wolverine fanboys. They hate him because he takes Wolverine’s spot of #1 away from his fans. And if you think Spiderman is overrated on this site, you obviously haven’t met the power of the Wolveridiot. I will explain this phenomenon below.

Wolverine beating Metallo, Godzilla, 5 elder preds, Carnage, Namor (who flies), Iron Man, Herc, the list just goes on and on. Ironically you haven’t been on here very long anyways for your opinion to be taken seriously.

Check these fanboys out then… amazing no?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t427731.html

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=316447&perpage=40&highlight=Wolverine+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

Look at all those moronic fanboys in there defending their love, all those people with Wolverine in his name. They always did border on homoerotic, they just won’t let threads die… the mod has to step in to keep the homoeroticism down. I

Can Spiderman dodge Hulk some? Sure, he has precognition, you’d be surprised at what he can dodge. Hulk can move faster in a straight line, but there’s a difference between speed and quickness.

But wait, I’m not here to have an intellectual debate with you, I’m here to prove you wrong about how moronic Wolverine fanboys are… so without further ado…

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=359525&perpage=40&highlight=metallo+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

That was sure funny…

Even when he has no chance people try to defend him…

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=364596&perpage=40&highlight=metallo+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

Ultimate proof, Wolverine and Spiderman vs Superman, let’s see which fanboys are actually worse…

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=368145&perpage=40&highlight=metallo+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30968&perpage=40&highlight=Logan87+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

Damn… how about that. Then you account that people think Wolverine beats the Hulk and trade’s hits with him… I mean damn, it almost sounds… I dunno… stupid…

Oh, and my personal fave…

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=357125&perpage=40&highlight=Logan87+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

Yea, we all know Spiderman’s a killer. We better watch out for that dear though…

Oh yea, and the worst of all… Wolverine vs. Iceman. Since Wolverine can sit naked in the cold, he can now beat an Omega level mutant.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=381398&perpage=40&highlight=scotsmn+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

I know, but Wolverine’s too busy breaking the sound barrier and taking nukes. Because it is Spiderman, we’ll say the weapon x characters win. Even if it’s sandman/hydro because they are busy jumping 50 feet in the air and other things… 🙄 You say you like them equally but it always seems you’re making fun of Spiderman. Of course when I call you on it like now, you are going to take the innocent route.

Wow, you sure showed me... 🙄

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http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=411932&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Mr. Fantastic
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=409785&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Nitro
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=397879&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Kakashi
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=397747&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

Spider-man vs. X-Factor
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=397100&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Scarlet Witch
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=396343&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

"ZOMG! Spider-man fanboys....Blah blah blah"

Yeah, I'm not so good at nonsensical, insane rantings.... maybe you'd like to fill in the blanks CM?

In all seriousness though you are completely bias and fully delusional.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Gender: Male
Location: ? Currently: Swatting the haters.

Why would you openly tell us you are inflicting damage on your self? 😕

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Me using Spiderman's high's versus his lows. I find that odd since most Spiderman supporters seldom rely on feat wars, especially myself. That title definately goes to the Wolverine fans, using high end feats and ignoring others. This is a forum where PIS is set up, so no matter how many times crap happens its crap, maybe you should see that for logan as you do Spiderman. And stop amping lightweighters beyond their abilities.

Your entire argument is based on Spider-man's high end feats except you don't use anything to back it up. You just make brood random remarks with little to no merit like "I don't think a Spiderman at his best will have too much problem dodging Creed unless Creed has the Venom symbiote." Other people make a remark and show a scan or give an issue number to back it up... but in your case we are treated to your "logic."

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Bullshit, I said he wouldn't have a serious problem dodging him. Unless his precog amounts to nothing. Don't give me that crap, when you think Logan is undamageable.

You said he wouldn't have a serious problem dodging Victor unless he was wearing the Venom symbiot. You think Sabretooth would need to be in the Venom symboit to have a decent chance of hitting Spider-man. Do you know how crazy that sounds? And the spider-sense isn't precog. He can't predict what Sabretooth will do before he does it but as soon as an attack is mounted he knows about it... which isn't to helpful against an opponent of Sabretooth's speed and calibre in melee combat.

I don't think Logan is un-damagable but Spider-man certainly doesn't have the means to ko him with brute strength.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Funny because oddly enough the same thing can be said with Wolverine and Sabes healing factor, seeing as they are adjusted inconsistently to meet the writers needs.

Yes but Wolverine's healing factor is written down to match the situation, Spider-man's speed/spider-sense is written up. Further more the Wolverine writers often put in a reason for his healing factor being slow (ie Daniel Way) or at least point out that it is working slower then normal (ie Claremount). What happens in Spider-man's case? Nothing. His abilities just slide all over the scale with out anything reasoning.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Spidersense works very differently and is underwritten to save the artist of writing it, do you know how it works?
😆

Peter senses vibrations in the air (which everyone from Captain America and Black Panther to Wolverine and Shatterstar have shown the ability to do... but lets down play that for Spider-man's sake) thats what the spider-sense is, coupled with the signature alarm that goes of in his head. He isn't a precog, far from it.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Look at Wolverine's first fight with Hulk, or his KO with thing.

Wolverine didn't even have a healing factor written into his character yet and he still took an "bone shattering" attack from the Hulk. He was also up ready for round two the next issue but the Canadian government extracted him.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Hulk has ko'ed him, so has Archangel, so has Thing. And he get's ko'ed by a chop to DD's throat?

I don't think anyone has a problem with the Hulk or Thing koing Wolverine...

Archangel? When the were tied together, Wolverine had no healing factor and were mind controlled into fighting?

Daredevil didn't ko Wolverine. He incapacitated him momentarily... in a Garth Ennis issue of Punisher.

You know you would be more credible if you did use so much circumstantial evidence.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Then you clearly missed the links, I can show you multiple instances of Logan in a low showing, so, so much for that. Spiderman is often hated about among MA fanboys.

Yeah 'cause those links were really something... 🙄

Spider-man isn't hated by any group of people... but what ever it takes to rationalise your fanaticism I guess.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
But that wouldn't matter to you seeing as you think Logan beats Godzilla.

No I don't... 😕

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Please. I don't argue Spiderman not getting hit all of the time, I don't argue him too fast for thor or any of these high showings. Most here agree he loses to Ock. Wolverine fanboys are the worst of the forum, clearly you didn't read those threads very well. I think you need to again. 😆

You don't think Spider-man is faster then Thor! Should I send you a medal or will the parade be enough?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
This is good, I haven’t owned a fanboy in a very long time. I see you have all the traits of one, terrible spelling, terrible diction, terrible comprehension. Your lack of reading skills makes you interpret that I think that Spiderman is unhittable, but everything is like Chaos Theory, there is a chance upon a chance of everything happening. Now let the lesson begin as another fanboy gets owned.

I know they are good points because they are true, you have nothing to support your argument but the impending bias that Spiderman can’t operate at Superhuman speeds despite him statistically being able to do so, logically being able to do so, and featwise able as well. You Logan fanboys are amazing, because if you don’t like something it is ok to disregard it, but for some reason or another it is Ok for us to watch Wolverine get hit by Hulk and be fine with it, but get hit by streets and not. Blatant utter hypocrisy that is as misinformed and misdirected as your post.

Well thinking isn’t your specialty seeing as you are a Wolverine fanboy, you have issues with your cognitive thought process. There were several reasons Spiderman didn’t “circle around him”. One being that Morlun is Superhumanly fast, reason two being that he drained him, reason three being he fought for well over a day. But as usual like the other fanboys you negate that when it goes into your premise for deduction. You really don’t want to play the rhetoric game with me, I’m much better at it than you.

What you fail to understand is that Spiderman can get hit by superfast people, it’s just much harder for him to get hit by those slower than him unless he’s jobbing. Spiderman holds back a lot, which is pretty obvious seeing as his attitude is to mess around. But you are a Spiderman hater, so your opinion is null.

Typical, the people who argue against Spiderman in every thread are almost always Wolverine fanboys. They hate him because he takes Wolverine’s spot of #1 away from his fans. And if you think Spiderman is overrated on this site, you obviously haven’t met the power of the Wolveridiot. I will explain this phenomenon below.

Wolverine beating Metallo, Godzilla, 5 elder preds, Carnage, Namor (who flies), Iron Man, Herc, the list just goes on and on. Ironically you haven’t been on here very long anyways for your opinion to be taken seriously.

Check these fanboys out then… amazing no?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t427731.html

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=316447&perpage=40&highlight=Wolverine+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

Look at all those moronic fanboys in there defending their love, all those people with Wolverine in his name. They always did border on homoerotic, they just won’t let threads die… the mod has to step in to keep the homoeroticism down. I

Can Spiderman dodge Hulk some? Sure, he has precognition, you’d be surprised at what he can dodge. Hulk can move faster in a straight line, but there’s a difference between speed and quickness.

But wait, I’m not here to have an intellectual debate with you, I’m here to prove you wrong about how moronic Wolverine fanboys are… so without further ado…

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=359525&perpage=40&highlight=metallo+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

That was sure funny…

Even when he has no chance people try to defend him…

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=364596&perpage=40&highlight=metallo+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

Ultimate proof, Wolverine and Spiderman vs Superman, let’s see which fanboys are actually worse…

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=368145&perpage=40&highlight=metallo+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30968&perpage=40&highlight=Logan87+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

Damn… how about that. Then you account that people think Wolverine beats the Hulk and trade’s hits with him… I mean damn, it almost sounds… I dunno… stupid…

Oh, and my personal fave…

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=357125&perpage=40&highlight=Logan87+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

Yea, we all know Spiderman’s a killer. We better watch out for that dear though…

Oh yea, and the worst of all… Wolverine vs. Iceman. Since Wolverine can sit naked in the cold, he can now beat an Omega level mutant.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=381398&perpage=40&highlight=scotsmn+forumid%3A77&pagenumber=1

I know, but Wolverine’s too busy breaking the sound barrier and taking nukes. Because it is Spiderman, we’ll say the weapon x characters win. Even if it’s sandman/hydro because they are busy jumping 50 feet in the air and other things… 🙄 You say you like them equally but it always seems you’re making fun of Spiderman. Of course when I call you on it like now, you are going to take the innocent route.

Originally posted by Ricodrayz
Well, it is better than Spiderman beating Magneto,Thor, and Silver Surfer; with his God like speed and Strength 😆 Oh and Wolverine is not in the match; if you were wondering. I meant to ask you something though. How many chickens do you need, to sacrifice to your Spider God 😖hifty:

Just joking Dude 😆

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wow, you sure showed me... 🙄

Spider-man vs. Green Lantern
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=319307&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. the Hulk
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=427751&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Colossus
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=427439&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Ironman
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=427342&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Magneto
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=426760&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Firelord
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=423782&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spiderman vs. Captain America/Daredevil/Wolverine
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=312407&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Havok
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=422488&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Doc Sampson
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=422260&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. The X-Men
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=422015&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. The Thing
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=421086&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Quicksilver
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=414852&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Quicksilver
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=412416&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Guyver
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=411802&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Ironman
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=300631&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider=man vs. Sasquatch
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=403834&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Ice-man vs. Firestar
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=403059&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. The Wreaker
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=403111&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. The Sinister Six
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=426503&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

Spider-man vs. The Hulk vs. Ironman
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=423366&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

Spider-man vs. The Human Torch
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=422968&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

Spider-man vs. The Fantastic Four
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=422223&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Namor
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=417920&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Martian Manhunter
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=411932&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Mr. Fantastic
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=409785&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Nitro
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=397879&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Kakashi
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=397747&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

Spider-man vs. X-Factor
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=397100&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Scarlet Witch
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=396343&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

"ZOMG! Spider-man fanboys....Blah blah blah"

Yeah, I'm not so good at nonsensical, insane rantings.... maybe you'd like to fill in the blanks CM?

In all seriousness though you are completely bias and fully delusional.

[QUOTE=7677942]Originally posted by srankmissingnin
[B]You said Spider-man would have no problem dodging Sabretooth unless Victor was wearing the Venom symbiot. Sounds like you think he is pretty much untouchable to me.
Spidey most likely will be touched by venom sabre is cos spidey's spider sense cant sense venom

Spider-Man wins this one 6-7/10.

To my knowledge, Spidey is still stronger than Creed, faster (Creed is fast, but come on)...actually, I have a better way of saying this.

Creed is Wovlerine 2.0. Which really only boosts his stats a bit more than Wolverine. And Spider-Man outclasses Wolverine. The same way he outclasses Creed.

I really just can't see, even using Spider-Man median feats, Creed being able to really land any decent blow on Spider-man. He's just not fast enough, his reflexes aren't as good as Spidey's either. And that, coupled with Spider-Man's spider-sense just adds to his inability to hit Spidey.

On the other hand, Sabretooth's healing factor is even more effective than Wolverine's. Which only means that Spidey will have to hit him more, web him more, and gradually tax Sabes' healing factor.

*Cracks Knuckles*

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wow, you sure showed me... 🙄

Spider-man vs. Green Lantern
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=319307&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. the Hulk
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=427751&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Colossus
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=427439&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Ironman
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=427342&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Magneto
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=426760&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Firelord
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=423782&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spiderman vs. Captain America/Daredevil/Wolverine
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=312407&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Havok
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=422488&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Doc Sampson
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=422260&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. The X-Men
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=422015&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. The Thing
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=421086&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Quicksilver
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=414852&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Quicksilver
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=412416&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Guyver
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=411802&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Ironman
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=300631&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider=man vs. Sasquatch
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=403834&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Ice-man vs. Firestar
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=403059&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. The Wreaker
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=403111&highlight=title%3A%28Spiderman+vs%29

Spider-man vs. The Sinister Six
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=426503&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

Spider-man vs. The Hulk vs. Ironman
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=423366&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

Spider-man vs. The Human Torch
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=422968&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

Spider-man vs. The Fantastic Four
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=422223&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Namor
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=417920&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Martian Manhunter
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=411932&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Mr. Fantastic
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=409785&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Nitro
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=397879&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Kakashi
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=397747&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

Spider-man vs. X-Factor
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=397100&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

Spider-man vs. Scarlet Witch
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=396343&highlight=title%3A%28Spider-man+vs%29

[QUOTE=7678682]Originally posted by srankmissingnin
[B]"ZOMG! Spider-man fanboys....Blah blah blah"

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Yeah, I'm not so good at nonsensical, insane rantings.... maybe you'd like to fill in the blanks CM?

One from your own “allies”, though he’s gotten better in some ways.

Originally posted by jinzin
well wolverine might have a chance at penetrating supe's skin. When wolverine fights hulk, he usually just shlashes away causing scratches but not much else, when wolverine goes to impale hulk, it usually works, if wolverine slashes at superman, superman's just going to stand there smiling and troll punch logan for his troubles, if wolverine goes in to impale supe's he might have a miniscule chance of succeeding. I don't think superman's punches are going to disable wolverine horribly, Wolverine had taken full shots from the hulk without adamantium, only to get up and fight some more, horrible writing if you ask me, he should have been turned into instant jelly. and wolverine's taken direct hits from cyclops' eyebeams only to get up smoldering, and a direct hit from a nuke at ground zero for that matter, again the writing for that is on crack but well it happened. still though, despite all this, I really don't think wolverine stands 1% of a chance of walking away from this without one hell of an embarassing ass-handing, unless he gets really lucky and stabs superman in the nuts or the eyes.

Originally posted by jinzin
in some ways I agree.. but the point is.. as long as namor keeps trying to h2h with wolverine like he does in the books he's gonna keep getting stabbed and humiliated...

Originally posted by jinzin
wolverine has.. :

Cutting SS

Originally posted by jinzin
again..PROVE his durability vs. cutting effeciency..don't just give me speculation. cause I have proof.. and that outweighs speculation.

Cutting Thanos.

Oh, and who can forget Wolvertooth, priest of Church of Wolvigod.

Originally posted by Wolvertooth
theres no point to talk with someone that everytime you say something instead of giving a good debate he starts with the old fanboy accuse, anyway as i saied but i guess you dont understand english , if wolverine gets his hands on iron man he is down he will cut his armor and stark inside if iron man blast him wolverine will heal the max iron man will K.O him , you always say johnny will go nova bla bla like its some god like power, if it was that way then no one could beat him right? i mean he just goes nova and everybody is down he is god like thats amazing, intresting how wolverine took him out twice but you still say he is too much for wolverine, intresting how wolverine took thing out 3 times but people still say wolverine is weaker, wolverine gave namor a beating but still its a PIS, thats amazing everytime wolverine does something its like it never happened? the problem is that its not me who is the fanboy, its you who is a hater that got some hate to a drawings

Originally posted by Wolvertooth
yes i do, but you underestimate wolverine big time, if wolverine gets his claws on johnny he is dead R.I.P, wolverine can heal johnny cant, wolverine got skills johnny doesnt, yes human torch is strong but if he will fall into wolverines hands he is dead no matter how many flames he can shoot or how many fire tricks he can do

Originally posted by Wolvertooth
but still wolverine can climb on a tree and attack iron man, same thing with omega he climbs and hide, when iron man comes near he can grab him with his tentacles and bring him down, and even if iron man blast them , wolverine still can heal from the blasts and eventually he will reach iron man

 sigh* and it continues…

Originally posted by Riceroost
These scans are pointless. They are all low end showings that we all obviously are aware that Wolverine can do in his sleep. Since the forum has the fighters opperating at peak performance for the purposes of this fight Wolverine is dodging hundreds of lasers at once with little to no effort and shots from the Hulk do no more than tickle his nose.

IE he could easily dodge 5 Spider-Men shooting webbing at him in his sleep and Spider-Man will be physically incapable of KOing him since he does not posses Hulk level strength.

Wolverine 7/10.

Originally posted by Riceroost
Wolverine has been shown to jump 50 feet in the air.

Do I even need to get into w8888? That just makes this sad…

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
In all seriousness though you are completely bias and fully delusional.

Funny man, trying to beat me with inferior rhetoric. Let me help you child.

de·lu·sion (d-lzhn) Pronunciation Key Audio pronunciation of "delusional" [P]
n.

1.
1. The act or process of deluding.
2. The state of being deluded.
2. A false belief or opinion: labored under the delusion that success was at hand.
3. Psychiatry. A false belief strongly held in spite of invalidating evidence, especially as a symptom of mental illness: delusions of persecution.

If I was truly delusional (which is actually you since I’ve thrown overwhelming facts in the contrary to you and your homoerotic supporters), I would be mentally ill and perceiving everything as fact and perfectly normal. As opposed to…

bi‧as  /ˈbaɪəs/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[bahy-uhs] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, adjective, adverb, verb, bi‧ased, bi‧as‧ing or (especially British) bi‧assed, bi‧as‧sing.
–noun
1. an oblique or diagonal line of direction, esp. across a woven fabric.
2. a particular tendency or inclination, esp. one that prevents unprejudiced consideration of a question; prejudice.
3. Statistics. a systematic as opposed to a random distortion of a statistic as a result of sampling procedure.
4. Lawn Bowling.
a. a slight bulge or greater weight on one side of the ball or bowl.
b. the curved course made by such a ball when rolled.
5. Electronics. the application of a steady voltage or current to an active device, as a diode or transistor, to produce a desired mode of operation.
6. a high-frequency alternating current applied to the recording head of a tape recorder during recording in order to reduce distortion.
–adjective
7. cut, set, folded, etc., diagonally: This material requires a bias cut.
–adverb
8. in a diagonal manner; obliquely; slantingly: to cut material bias.
–verb (used with object)
9. to cause partiality or favoritism in (a person); influence, esp. unfairly: a tearful plea designed to bias the jury.
10. Electronics. to apply a steady voltage or current to (the input of an active device).

Baised is me tending to go one way or another based on my preference, we are all biased to a degree, but I have no problem admitting Spiderman loses, in fact I do it more than I’d say he wins. So much for that, mentally ill friend, or mentally challenged at least. Now, for more of your lesson…

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Why would you openly tell us you are inflicting damage on your self?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Your entire argument is based on Spider-man's high end feats

You, my hypocritical friend, use NOTHING but high end feats, all of the time, that suit your argument. You will never argue Wolverine getting hurt by anything under Hulk level, you will argue him in his few exceptions lifting ridiculous things as opposed to the contrary, and you’ll argue him, along with other fanboys who use nothing but high end feats, breaking the sound barrier, and jumping several stories in the air. I have no time for such idiocy, which is why I avoid feat wars in general. But I dare you to come up with a consistent list of Spiderman’s high end feats, and if I did use them, why in the **** would I not be backing them up if everyone knows they happened. Sounds like a copout to others because they have no other way around the argument regardless. You do not debate logically, nor do you take PIS into account with anything when it comes to Wolverine, there is no disputing Wolverine feats with you. Not once have you ever said wolverine has a crap feat, but you seem to have no problem bitching about Spiderman and Deathstroke. Typical fanboy irony.

Even in threads like SF I specify the wins based on the showings, either you’re blind or just lying. I think it’s the latter.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
except you don't use anything to back it up.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You just make brood random remarks with little to no merit like "I don't think a Spiderman at his best will have too much problem dodging Creed unless Creed has the Venom symbiote."

Which is no different than “I don’t think anyone under Hulk level strength can hurt Wolverine, even if they hit on them all day.”. I explain each and every bit of what I say, and my logic (which you don’t have), is superior enough that it makes Wolverine fans look like idiots, I sure love when they try to bring up fighting skills and combat prowress then, because it becomes all the more funnier. Maybe someone should look up fallacy…

fal‧la‧cy  /ˈfæləsi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[fal-uh-see] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -cies.
1. a deceptive, misleading, or false notion, belief, etc.: That the world is flat was at one time a popular fallacy.
2. a misleading or unsound argument.
3. deceptive, misleading, or false nature; erroneousness.
4. Logic. any of various types of erroneous reasoning that render arguments logically unsound.
5. Obsolete. deception.
[Origin: 1350–1400; < L fall&#257;cia a trick, deceit, equiv. to fall&#257;c- (s. of fall&#257;x) deceitful, fallacious + -ia -y3; r. ME fallace < MF]

—Synonyms 1. misconception, delusion, misapprehension.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Other people make a remark and show a scan or give an issue number to back it up...

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
but in your case we are treated to your "logic."

Would you would don’t seem to comprehend and understand, or rather not accept, my Canadian friend, is that there HAS to be logic when doing any kind of debating. If there is no logic, then there is no point of debating. What you deduce, induce, and otherwise come to the conclusion of, begins and ends with logic. There is no other way around it no matter how many times you fanboys simply want to deny it. This isn’t a debate about “real world logic” it’s the internal reasoning for inference that is used in conjunction with rhetoric to come to a conclusion. No matter how much you ***** about Logan’s skill, or Cap’s skill, there is no way someone in their speed range, and strength range, has the grip pressure to catch a bullet, period.

But I’m ahead of myself, you don’t know what logic is.

log&#8231;ic&#8194; /&#712;l&#594;d&#658;&#618;k/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[loj-ik] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. the science that investigates the principles governing correct or reliable inference.
2. a particular method of reasoning or argumentation: We were unable to follow his logic.
3. the system or principles of reasoning applicable to any branch of knowledge or study.
4. reason or sound judgment, as in utterances or actions: There wasn't much logic in her move.
5. convincing forcefulness; inexorable truth or persuasiveness: the irresistible logic of the facts.
6. Computers. logic circuit.

So no matter how many times you post scans of your characters “dodging bullets”, there is no way possible that someone at their speed level is moving out of the way successfully once that bullet leaves the chamber at a close distance. Your internal logic goes against itself further when you actually attempt to argue a slower character doing it as opposed to Spiderman. Which causes you to look ridiculous each and every time you and your cronies argue silly shit like Wolverine healing before it happens, or Wolverine jumping 50 feet in the air. I honestly let it slide simply due to the fact that I can’t be bothered going in circular arguments and owning you guys all the time. But this post and the other required special attention.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You said he wouldn't have a serious problem dodging Victor unless he was wearing the Venom symbiot. You think Sabretooth would need to be in the Venom symboit to have a decent chance of hitting Spider-man. Do you know how crazy that sounds?

His precognition just gives him an edge. If I were in a physical fight and I knew what the opponent were going to do next, I would have the advantage in dodging him. Sabretooth isn’t smart enough, nor does he know enough about Spiderman to exploit this. He isn’t Venom, or Carnage, or Ock, with his A.I tentacles, which Spiderman has dodged numerous times. That doesn’t mean he can’t hit him, because like I said before he has the chance of always getting hit, it just means he won’t be in “the time of his life” trying to dodge him either. And even if Creed hit him, it most likely wouldn’t be a finishing blow the first time anyways. Nothing new that Spiderman hasn’t faced, since you love to use that argument. 😉 You have no other argument to go against mine except simply the fact that you do not like it, which is hypocritical and invalid. 😬

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And the spider-sense isn't precog.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He can't predict what Sabretooth will do before he does it but as soon as an attack is mounted he knows about it...

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
which isn't to helpful against an opponent of Sabretooth's speed and calibre in melee combat.

Because you like him more? Sabretooth isn’t actually faster, nor does he *use * his melee combat “prowress” that often, isn’t he actually ranked lower than Logan? Logan actually uses his more (or is shown to regardless). Spiderman has used it his entire career, but that’s going to stop at Sabretooth? Who’s being biased now? Or ignorant? Or delusional? Take your pick, I’m too sleepy now. For some reason an MA is more dangerous than explosives and fatal weapons, funniest thing I’ve heard in quite some time actually. Sabretooth is not used to fighting Spiderman, nor is he smart enough to exploit it.

I never heard how he was breaking out of the webbing btw, he only has nails too, not quite like Logan's claws, which makes it harder for him in terms of cutting leverage.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't think Logan is un-damagable but Spider-man certainly doesn't have the means to ko him with brute strength.

Logan takes damage at the rate of a person, but heals from it extremely fast (how fast depending on the writer), if he gets hit with a bunch of force at one time his brain has no choice but to take the damage. He can’t heal before the damage has taken place. With his adamantium which bends less to concussive force, he is actually giving less resistance to prevent the nature of the attack, therefore working against him. Not to say that it’d be easy to do, but it can be done. Not that I’m going to hear an explanation of why it can’t, but “wolverine akfa;fojda dsihf;dfjsf;ad sf;dsfda” a skilled MA could do it. Writers aren’t physicians or anything else, they are writers.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Yes but Wolverine's healing factor is written down to match the situation, Spider-man's speed/spider-sense is written up.

Spiderman’s speed is defined and hardly utilized, he has a set speed which he can operate. Spiderman’s sense has NOT been shown more powerful despite it being upgraded, and is pretty much always written down due to the work on the artist. He’s gotten hit by common thugs at times, even though his Spider sense should activate each and every time he is in danger. He’s over 20x faster than a person, but someone at the speed of an Olympic athlete keeps up with him? Please. You got those two quite backwards my friend. Logan is around the xmen more, not fighting people he has no business fighting, although he does both.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Further more the Wolverine writers often put in a reason for his healing factor being slow (ie Daniel Way) or at least point out that it is working slower then normal (ie Claremount).

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
What happens in Spider-man's case? Nothing. His abilities just slide all over the scale with out anything reasoning.

hahahaha, funniest post yet. I’m sure all the subjective readers on this board agree that Logan is very inconsistent, despite him being overrated. Logan’s classified as a peak human but goes beyond that more and more the more popular he gets. Spiderman’s is TONS more consistent than logan will ever be, and they are often written down. His strength is written down, as well as his speed, and agility. Most of the times they just give him webbing, and the walls to use. Every time he fights a peak human he becomes stupid and can’t dodge for some reason. Don’t even get me started with his Spider sense please. Saying that just shows you don’t understand his character at all, by saying logan (one of the most inconsistent characters in comics) is more consistent than Spiderman (one of the few characters who have changed very little since his appearance.) Funnier yet is Spiderman is usually holding back regardless, or is tired, stressed in his worst moments. Yea, you’re very wrong here. I’m sure you’re going to argue Spiderman fighting to his fullest next. 😆

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Peter senses vibrations in the air (which everyone from Captain America and Black Panther to Wolverine and Shatterstar have shown the ability to do... but lets down play that for Spider-man's sake) thats what the spider-sense is, coupled with the signature alarm that goes of in his head. He isn't a precog, far from it.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine didn't even have a healing factor written into his character yet and he still took an "bone shattering" attack from the Hulk. He was also up ready for round two the next issue but the Canadian government extracted him.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't think anyone has a problem with the Hulk or Thing koing Wolverine...

Yea, NOONE has a problem with Hulk or Thing Ko’ing Wolverine, or Herc, is that why their arguments are sooooo long? 🙄

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Archangel? When the were tied together, Wolverine had no healing factor and were mind controlled into fighting?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Daredevil didn't ko Wolverine. He incapacitated him momentarily... in a Garth Ennis issue of Punisher.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You know you would be more credible if you did use so much circumstantial evidence.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Yeah 'cause those links were really something... 🙄

Yep, they proved how moronic Wolverien fanboys were, seeing as your links had no arguments that lasted that long in 99% of the cases, I’d say your hard work was a lot of NOTHING. They provided good entertainment on the behalf of many members however.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Spider-man isn't hated by any group of people... but what ever it takes to rationalise your fanaticism I guess.

And oddly enough the people arguing against him in every thread are always, always… Wolverine fanboys. And we all know why to, it never fails.

We’ve all established that we hate Wolverine’s annoying supporters and not the character. Funny that, how everyone in the forum understands that but the same people who moan and ***** about Wolveirne in the first place. Talk about fanaticism. Oddly enough I have little reason to go around posting that everyone hates Spiderman or not, because I don’t care, I see it for what it is and ignore it.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You don't think Spider-man is faster then Thor!

Never once said he was my friend.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Should I send you a medal or will the parade be enough?

Oh... and I forgot...

😮‍💨

Settle down now children 😖hifty:

That has got to be one of the longest rants ever, and a very well thought out and logical rant. Well done C-Master well done, just to bad you don't have a scanner otherwise that could have gotten realy embarresing.

Spider-Man 8/10