Originally posted by batdude123that was kool when supes made that huge robot. but i see why some don't like this t-vo it makes supes all to powerfull.
Altering reality- changes to Kingdom Come Superman, then to Superman 1 Million:
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http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vo31hz.jpgConstruct- makes a huge robot to combat Eradicator
http://img461.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vo8tc.jpgHe acts independently from his constructs:
http://img456.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vo22rc.jpgDominus noting Superman's control over reality:
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Originally posted by snoopdogg
What power does CM have that Superman does not? What power does Superman have that CM does not?
What Shazam lacks as far as heat vision,frosty breath and electromagnetic manipulation, he makes up for in wisdom,courage and raw power. The one main advantage that Shazam has is being majic based. It is a well documented fact that when Superman and majick are having a fight, Supes usually get embarrased. More embarrassing than that, however, is the fact that I basically listed both of these power sets from memory. Lord only knows how I got a girlfriend,let alone why she married me. 😮
Originally posted by Avalonofthewindit is a lil over hype by batdude. its like if i said ss just blows the sun up to win cuz he can. supes useing t-vo in every thread=pointless thread.
I actually own the books. He pulls the maneuver out rather quickly more than once.It's painfully obvious you're reaching.
"But but...it wasn't a popular villain! It doesn't count!" 😆
It's "over hyped" because you don't like it.
Originally posted by newyorkcares
supes- superstrength ,speed, invulnerability,heightened senses,heat vision,x-ray and microscopic vision,frosty breath,can see and (depending on the writer)manipulate the electromagnetic spectrum.
VS.
Shazam-wisdom of solomon, strength of Hercules,stamina of Atlas,power of Zeus,courage of Achilles,speed of Mercury.What Shazam lacks as far as heat vision,frosty breath and electromagnetic manipulation, he makes up for in wisdom,courage and raw power. The one main advantage that Shazam has is being majic based. It is a well documented fact that when Superman and majick are having a fight, Supes usually get embarrased. More embarrassing than that, however, is the fact that I basically listed both of these power sets from memory. Lord only knows how I got a girlfriend,let alone why she married me. 😮
Captain Marvel has heighten senses too.
Originally posted by SoljerYea but he's never done it yet. Supes has used T-VO quite a few times.
SS? Silver Surfer?Considering that he CASUALLY blew up a planet, and created a singularity, I think he could blow up a sun.....
And on a side note I just watched the "clash" episode on the JLU season 1 disc 3 DVD. And in it Superman actually beats the crap out of Captain Marvel. Ofcourse it's a cartoon though.
Originally posted by D-Block
True but not supes level but they are heighten. But Captain would win supes has nothing to hurt Capt like magic hurts supes.
Superman is faster and has a more versatile power set, therefore, he has more options to win.
Superman can resist high-level magic, and has demonstrated it on many many occassions. It's pointless for people to keep assuming that magic = Superman's going down. It's not even a weakness, really. It's become more dependent on his will power.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
And on a side note I just watched the "clash" episode on the JLU season 1 disc 3 DVD. And in it Superman actually beats the crap out of Captain Marvel. Ofcourse it's a cartoon though.
He was freakin' embarrassing Billy during that fight before Billy grabbed him from behind and use his Shazam lightning attack. ✅
