vader vs. malak

Started by Dessel6 pages
Originally posted by Ogami Itto
😂 he STILL doesn't get it does he?

lol 😆 , Sexy you're getting rinced out here.

*Smiles and whips out his lightsaber*

Hey, keep talkin' bad about my apprentice, and your the one who'll get rinced - literally.

ROFL. Says the one who can't understand the difference between Presuit Vader and Cyborg Vader

crybabyGod is crying now.....

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
ROFL. Says the one who can't understand the difference between Presuit Vader and Cyborg Vader

😐

Wow.. You kids are hilarious.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Wow.. You kids are hilarious.

Yes, and funny as well! 😄

Ogami, enough. Quit jabbing DS and trying to make this an argument instead of a civil debate. PT Anakin > OT Vader. He's just more powerful. Vader could give him a good fight, but he couldn't handle Anakin's relentless, power-driven fury.

oh God heres another one 😂

Who said that OT Vader could take ROTS Anakin??Nobody!! read the thread dammit 😇

Originally posted by Ogami Itto
oh God heres another one 😂

Who said that OT Vader could take ROTS Anakin??Nobody!! read the thread dammit 😇

Another one? Are you referring to somebody that's NOT allergic to intelligence? You need to stop embarassing yourself with your blatant stupidity.

Look, I hate to break it to you, but no one cares about your opinion. You're not a good debator. All you are is the one guy who comes to the thread after most of the debating has been done, and then you pick the side of the person who closest shares your very pathetic opinion.

Ush proved it a long time ago - Anakin > Vader. Deal with it. The RotS novelization even says that as Vader, Anakin wasn't what he once was. The comparison was made that: "he was like a composer gone deaf, a painter gone blind".

It shouldn't even be a discussion. Pre suit ANakin is superior to Vader. Maybe not in the force but in everything else. If you can't handle it, shut up.

I KNOW Anakin > OT Vader!!

I never once said that all i was concurring with was what dessel said:

OT Cyborg Vader > Pre OT Cyborg Vader.

Whats so hard to understand about that?? and really theres no need for insults children 🙄

Oh! I'm sorry. I get it.

And, yeah, you're probably right. I don't see how Vader'd get weaker.

Apology accepted, CPT Needa 😉

Originally posted by Ogami Itto
Apology accepted, CPT Needa 😉

But I'm not dead. 😐

Don't worry it's a delayed choke.

Should kick in sometime within the next 70 years or so

this whole argument seems to have been created by my comment to Dessel. What I said was, the movies are only canonical to THAT era Vader, and wouldn't give us info about Jedi Purge Vader when he was still young. What I was ultimately getting at was, that when he first got in the suit and was still in his 20's, that it seemed logical to ME that there would be a chance he would be faster as a younger man. Thats all. And that he would still have a lot of rage as he wasn't used to being in the suit yet, so he could be more physically active during that time.

since when anakin > Vader? who ever said so, GL stated vader is 80% of sidious, and the novel said vader is half of what he once was, does that mean anakin is 160% of sidious?
No

And by the way, how the hell can PT anakin be stronger and beat OT vader whom is calm and knows his opponents, Vader would know the tactics of anakin because he himself was once anakin. Already vaders mastery of djem so surpasses anakins, And in the 19 years between ROTS and OT, he had a much bigger experience and mastery of the force. In terms of speed yes i see anakin is better but in experience and force mastery alone i see vader here the stronger one.

And there is a quote from palpatine i found intresting, he noted that "sith power resides in the will, not flesh"

Originally posted by Kadesh
since when anakin > Vader? who ever said so, GL stated vader is 80% of sidious, and the novel said vader is half of what he was, does that mean anakin is 160% of sidious?
No

I think you're confused. Anakin was stated to have the potential to be twice as powerful as Sidious, or 200%. When he lost all of his limbs, he became only 80% of Sidious.

And by the way, how the hell can PT anakin be stronger and beat OT vader whom is calm and knows his opponents, Vader would know the tactics of anakin because he himself was once anakin. Already vaders mastery of djem so surpasses anakins,

Vader is nowhere near Anakin's abilities with the samer by the OT. Him being a machine severely limits his mobility and speed, something Anakin had. It is true though, that he's more powerful in the force.