Wolverine vs Daredevil

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I only want to say a few things to this:

1) DD's senses are far superior to Wolverine's. As much as you want them to be, Wolvie's just aren't in the same league.

DD has greater hearing. slightly
Logan has greater smelling. Slightly
Touch equals
Taste equals
DD has radar senses how ever, but logan does not need it because he can see.

Like in infinity wars when logan new who the clones were when DD did not

How about (The Uncanny x-men annual the return of exodus!) Wolverine knows the real Madrox from the fakes

[/B][/QUOTE]2) DD is more agile. And possibly quicker/better reflexes OR as good as Wolverine. The guy bats away bullets with his billy clubs like it's his job. [/B][/QUOTE]
There not a bit of prove to suggest DD is more agile.

Has DD ever caught a bullet?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
3) A shot to the nuts has taken Wolverine out AT LEAST two times now in canon comics.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I think it's safe to say that the severe pain a shot to the groin produces could put him down for a bit.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Merry Christmas, amigos.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Its a bit of hate and love when old threads are remade or bumped. We've been through this many times. At least most of us have.

[QUOTE=8028817]Originally posted by jrodslam
[B]Daredevil can beat Wolverine and Wolverine can beat Daredevil. I wanns say that its been mentioned that Wolvies bones are fused together. Thats totaly false. Regardless of what a pic shows.

Originally posted by jrodslam
If that was the case, hed never be able to bend his arms, legs, bend over to tie his boots etc.

Here you clearly see logan bones are attached
http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolvievsnova6wa3xfek0.jpg

Originally posted by jrodslam Les be clear on that. His cartilage and tendons aren’t laced. Nerves and Cartilage would be considered Wolvies weak points if faced against a unarmed opponent who doesnt have enhanced or superhuman strength. [/B]

[i]Originally posted by jrodslam [/I ]DD via senses would have no troubles at all locating them. None. [/B]

[i]Originally posted by jrodslam [/I ]Its been said by a couple of people also that Logan has better skills or is more skilled than DD. Now, with all fanboyism and bias aside, can someone HONESTLY say that Wolvie shows or have shown more skill than DD? Honestly now. Maybe a few times that show he has skills indeed, BUT nothing on a consistant level that says he more skilled. We may as well throw stats out the window here, cause i want this answered in truth. In all realness there may be 3 or 4 people who show to have as much skill as DD and show it regularly, and thats Iron Fist, Shang Shi, Elektra and probably Captain America. Taskmaster and Echo doesnt count imo. [/B]

Logan then in ( Wolverine Origins issue 4) gives capt a blood clot. At the end of the day Capt was rushed to the hospital and logan was fine.

Logan defeated shang-chi in (X-Men 97 hellfire Hong Kong guest –starring Shang-chi master of king-fu)

Logan beating a guy who pimp destroyed Iron Fist.
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http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?...0013jpg17ro.jpg

http://img163.imageshack.us/my.php?...max001411mk.jpg

http://img163.imageshack.us/my.php?...max001515zi.jpg

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http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?...max001717vt.jpg

http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11ll2.jpg

defeats Daredevil in a fist fight in a few short panels.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=8024303

[i]Originally posted by jrodslam [/I ]Logan is fast and so is DD. In fact Wolvies even mentioned how fast DD was. Regardless of whos faster, it wouldnt be to the point where the other wouldnt be able to see the move coming at all. Les be clear on that as well. [/B]

Or how about this?
http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolbulletnd9zi1.jpg

[i]Originally posted by jrodslam [/I ]Logan very well CAN tag DD with the claws. I wont deny that at all. However, when people say "Once Wolvie connects its over." it just doesnt sound likely. Wolvie has connected and it didnt stop DD. A slash wont put DD down unless say its in the neck or something or its multiple slashes. [QUOTE=8028817]
That slash pretty much did stop DD. He was able to do one last desperate attack. He was not able to keep on fighting. He lucky it was no deeper. A Stabb will put DD down. DD may be able to take a slash one that’s not to deep how ever it will slow him down. He not taken a deep slash and still fighting that’s for sure.

[QUOTE=8028817][i]Originally posted by jrodslam [/I ]As most know due to that alone, ill give DD the slight edge as i always do. 6/10. Why?

1. Because Daredevil shows and have shown to have better skills than Wolverine.

2. Because Wolvie needs multiple slashes to take DD down and its not likely that would happen before DD can get off a nerve hit on Wolvie. [/B]

Nope DD does not have greater skill then logan.

Wolverine needs one slash to slow DD. At best DD can take a slash, but even that pushing it. DD not taking multiable slashes.

Nerve hit is not as dangerous as a freak 3 foot long claws that just silly to think so. Also there only so many places nerve strikes work while Claws work any were not to mention there reach.

Also There no reason to think a nerve strike would even work on logan. Logan has enhanced durability it take a lot of force to even land one, not to mention it heal instantly so it would not work regardless.

Originally posted by capt it up

DD has greater hearing. slightly
Touch equals
Taste equals

Touch does not equal
DD can feel muscle contractions, a big reason why he defeats the majority of streeet level marvel h2h combatnants.
Taste is debateable as well.

Other than that, i grudgeingly say wolverine probably wins a slight majority.

DD would have to be on his absolute best behavior

Wolverine could be KOed by DD if DD is lucky, it just matters on the writers, High end feats show Wolverine not being KOed by damn near nothing, than others show him getting KOed by a rock.

Originally posted by King KAM
, High end feats show Wolverine not being KOed by damn near nothing, than others show him getting KOed by a rock.

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Which comic is the Iron Fist fight capt?? I remember that just can't recall the issue.

Capt - fix your links. Wherever you copied them from, copy link location, not just the text.

As it is, it's trying to take you to an image shack site with ... in the address.

Originally posted by capt it up
The fact are logans senses are in DD league. You can deny it all you want, but your just wrong.

DD has greater hearing. slightly
Logan has greater smelling. Slightly
Touch equals
Taste equals
DD has radar senses how ever, but logan does not need it because he can see.

Like in infinity wars when logan new who the clones were when DD did not

DD's sense of hearing is far better than Wolverine's. He can pick out a single, individual voice in the busy city.

I'll give Logan the benefit of the doubt that his sense of smell is on par with Matt's. It's by no means better though.

Touch equals? You wish, dude. When's the last time Logan was able to read regular text using only his fingertips? 😬

I won't even argue the taste one, since it's pretty much a non-factor here.

And just because Logan can see doesn't mean sight = radar sense. The radar sense is FAR superior to sight any day of the week.

Originally posted by capt it up
How about (The Uncanny x-men annual the return of exodus!) Wolverine knows the real Madrox from the fakes

That's a goddamned lucky guess. The dupes are in every way exact duplicates of Jamie. Logan probably just deduced the original via Jamie's actions, since he only ACTS differently than his dupes. But they are, genetically, the exact same person.

Originally posted by capt it up

There not a bit of prove to suggest DD is more agile.[/QUOTE]

Except everything that he does? 😬

Originally posted by capt it up
Has DD ever caught a bullet?

Why catch them when he can EASILY bat them away with his billy clubs? He's done it SEVERAL times now over the years.

Originally posted by capt it up
It happen ounce in an ennis comic. It made no senses at all. Fact is it was PIS and ennis is a hack

Nope, also happened with Puck. Puck one-shot Logan in the balls, he went down. Not long, mind you. But went down nonetheless.[/QUOTE]

Originally posted by capt it up
Wait so now comic evidence is not good enough? Did you not just say you do not rely on hand books, but rather feats? This comic evidence I present earlier is no different. It a fact Logan bones is fused to gather.

Your trying to use real world logic in comic books lol have fun with that. Tell me this does a person made of rocks make senses? Or how about a man made out of organic steal. That’s no different then logans bones being fused and yet you have a problem with logan, but not them.
Ba’al a class 100 fails to rip Logan apart
http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=t6xn.jpg

Here you clearly see logan bones are attached
http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolvievsnova6wa3xfek0.jpg

Yes how ever again there be hard to damage since logan has enhanced durability with out the aid of his healing factor. He also has his healing factor which will heal any of the damage instantly. DD can’t say the same can he?

Who need the senses to locate nerves? His training would be enough for him to know were they all are. How ever it not like any of it would work. Logans healing factor would heal them instantly. Also logan has more training and experience he would know that’s were DD would be aiming.

Logan is just as skilled if not more show and has proven it. Logan defeated capt in (man and wolf Captain America # 404)

Logan then in ( Wolverine Origins issue 4) gives capt a blood clot. At the end of the day Capt was rushed to the hospital and logan was fine.

Logan defeated shang-chi in (X-Men 97 hellfire Hong Kong guest –starring Shang-chi master of king-fu)

Logan beating a guy who pimp destroyed Iron Fist.
http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=max00110dr.jpg

http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?...max001215rp.jpg

http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?...0013jpg17ro.jpg

http://img163.imageshack.us/my.php?...max001411mk.jpg

http://img163.imageshack.us/my.php?...max001515zi.jpg

http://img163.imageshack.us/my.php?...max001611zn.jpg

http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?...max001717vt.jpg

http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11ll2.jpg

defeats Daredevil in a fist fight in a few short panels.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=8024303

Wait does daredevil have a feat that can match this?
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?...ev1068170in.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinev106818wx9.jpg

Or how about this?
http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolbulletnd9zi1.jpg

It funny how you come to your conclusion that DD is able to take more of Logan’s attacks then Logan is able to Take of DD attacks which is just silly.

Nope DD does not have greater skill then logan.

Wolverine needs one slash to slow DD. At best DD can take a slash, but even that pushing it. DD not taking multiable slashes.

Nerve hit is not as dangerous as a freak 3 foot long claws that just silly to think so. Also there only so many places nerve strikes work while Claws work any were not to mention there reach.

Also There no reason to think a nerve strike would even work on logan. Logan has enhanced durability it take a lot of force to even land one, not to mention it heal instantly so it would not work regardless.

That's not necessarily true. Enhanced (which I still have yet to see any proof to show he has it 😬) durabilty won't necessarily stop nerve strikes from being affected. Durability has nothing to do with your entire arm/leg/etc. just losing all feeling and function. Sure, it won't put him down, but it'll render his limb useless until it heals.

For example. Even WITH enhanced durabilty, a poke to the eye doesn't take much pressure at all to cause major damage. Same thing applies here. Nerve clusters are EXTREMELY sensitive, like the eyes. They'll do their damage, regardless of Logan's healing factor.

And honestly? I know Wolverine is skilled. I never once argued that he's not. But I truly believe his so called "skill" is overrated. Daredevil has shown loads of far superior martial arts skills in pretty much every single issue. In my opinion, Daredevil is a more skilled martial artist.

P.S.--Wonder how long it'll take anyone to call me a "Wolverine Hater" this time? 🙄

Originally posted by Metalmanx
DD's sense of hearing is far better than Wolverine's. He can pick out a single, individual voice in the busy city.

I'll give Logan the benefit of the doubt that his sense of smell is on par with Matt's. It's by no means better though.

Touch equals? You wish, dude. When's the last time Logan was able to read regular text using only his fingertips? 😬

I won't even argue the taste one, since it's pretty much a non-factor here.

And just because Logan can see doesn't mean sight = radar sense. The radar sense is FAR superior to sight any day of the week.

That's a goddamned lucky guess. The dupes are in every way exact duplicates of Jamie. Logan probably just deduced the original via Jamie's actions, since he only ACTS differently than his dupes. But they are, genetically, the exact same person.

2) DD is more agile. And possibly quicker/better reflexes OR as good as Wolverine. The guy bats away bullets with his billy clubs like it's his job.

There not a bit of prove to suggest DD is more agile
Except everything that he does? 😬

Why catch them when he can EASILY bat them away with his billy clubs? He's done it SEVERAL times now over the years.

Nope, also happened with Puck. Puck one-shot Logan in the balls, he went down. Not long, mind you. But went down nonetheless.

buff post 👆 (sorry its a little messed up)

Originally posted by Metalmanx
DD's sense of hearing is far better than Wolverine's. He can pick out a single, individual voice in the busy city.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
That's not necessarily true. Enhanced (which I still have yet to see any proof to show he has it 😬)

Also in civil war files on Logan it states Logan with magnitude durability.

There also loads of times people like war path have hit logan and hurt there hand.

Logan with standing energy blasts from close range with out his healing factor.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
For example. Even WITH enhanced durabilty, a poke to the eye doesn't take much pressure at all to cause major damage

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Same thing applies here. Nerve clusters are EXTREMELY sensitive, like the eyes. They'll do their damage, regardless of Logan's healing factor.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
And honestly? I know Wolverine is skilled. I never once argued that he's not.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
But I truly believe his so called "skill" is overrated.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Daredevil has shown loads of far superior martial arts skills in pretty much every single issue. In my opinion, Daredevil is a more skilled martial artist.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
P.S.--Wonder how long it'll take anyone to call me a "Wolverine Hater" this time? 🙄

that post took up wayyyy to much space for me to even attempt to read.

Originally posted by King KAM
that post took up wayyyy to much space for me to even attempt to read.

Well, I'm not lazy. I did read it, but it's really the same old stuff over and over again.

It's really pretty useless debating against Wolverine with you, don't know why I keep trying. Guess I'm just a glutton for punishment. 😬

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Well, I'm not lazy. I did read it, but it's really the same old stuff over and over again.

It's really pretty useless debating against Wolverine with you, don't know why I keep trying. Guess I'm just a glutton for punishment. 😬

so what you mean is you have no way to prove a thing?

Ya it really usless debating against me when you can't prove a thing you have said and I can prove every thing I have said.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
That's not necessarily true. Enhanced (which I still have yet to see any proof to show he has it 😬) durabilty won't necessarily stop nerve strikes from being affected. Durability has nothing to do with your entire arm/leg/etc. just losing all feeling and function. Sure, it won't put him down, but it'll render his limb useless until it heals.

For example. Even WITH enhanced durabilty, a poke to the eye doesn't take much pressure at all to cause major damage. Same thing applies here. Nerve clusters are EXTREMELY sensitive, like the eyes. They'll do their damage, regardless of Logan's healing factor.

And honestly? I know Wolverine is skilled. I never once argued that he's not. But I truly believe his so called "skill" is overrated. Daredevil has shown loads of far superior martial arts skills in pretty much every single issue. In my opinion, Daredevil is a more skilled martial artist.

P.S.--Wonder how long it'll take anyone to call me a "Wolverine Hater" this time? 🙄

Have to disagree here. Daredevil does rely on his skill more because lets face it, he can't just sink his claws into everyone and call it a day. Wolverine doesn't show it all the time but he has the skills. Hate to beat dead horses but he's beaten Shang, the guy that embarassed Iron Fist for starters and even eithout his powers he was doing better against Mr X than guys like Taskmaster. He is definitely up there in terms of martial art skill.

Wolverine wins 7/10. Daredevil is slightly faster and maybe more skillful but Wolverine can take alot of damage and has more stamina. Daredevil has no protection and is sooner or later going to get a serious slash from Wolverine.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Wolverine wins 7/10. Daredevil is slightly faster and maybe more skillful but Wolverine can take alot of damage and has more stamina. Daredevil has no protection and is sooner or later going to get a serious slash from Wolverine.

Basically. Except Wolverine is more skilled

Originally posted by Muck101
You people are leaving out much of the advantages DD's senses gives him. 1. sense of touch gives him balance, and agility. True, his agility isn't technically classified as superhuman, but it is on par with most superhumans. 2. The radar doesn't just mean DD will know when the claws are coming out. 3. Hearing. The man can hear muscles contracting. He'll know when wolvie is going to strike, and where. Also, Im wagering a dodge from one of logans slashes fallowed by a swift billyclub strike to the nuts will hurt Logan plenty. And I could be wrong, but aren't wolverines tendons not coated with adamantium? If DD can shatter a DIAMOND absorbing man, Im wagering he can pop a few bones out of place.

Originally posted by capt it up
DD has greater hearing. slightly
Logan has greater smelling. Slightly
Touch equals
Taste equals
DD has radar senses how ever, but logan does not need it because he can see.

* know what's the problem? Logan/James Howlett is NOT the one who was blinded by an accident and was granted heightened senses on his remaining senses... it was Matt Murdock... 😆