Aegis and Tenebrous vs The Spectre.

Started by Juntai10 pages

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I still haven't read anything after Annihilation 2, so I need to ask: Have Aegis and Tenebrous actually performed any feats as to insinuate they can harm the Spectre?

Not that relevant to the thread, but I'd to know why were people even debating over the matter.

It was more debating about whether Tenebrous and Aegis were fundamental parts of existence like Galactus than whether they'd shown on panel feats of firepower on par with Spectre. It's kinda hard to match feats with a character that's been around for decades when you've only been around for a few months. Galactus stated on panel that Tenebrous and Aegis were his peers in the role of universal balance.

Originally posted by illadelph12
It was more debating about whether Tenebrous and Aegis were fundamental parts of existence like Galactus than whether they'd shown on panel feats of firepower on par with Spectre. It's kinda hard to match feats with a character that's been around for decades when you've only been around for a few months. Galactus stated on panel that Tenebrous and Aegis were his peers in the role of universal balance.

Yeah Galactus is very fundemental.....

Galactus is what kept Abraxas in check. When the original 616 Galactus died Abraxas was released, and he went about killing Galacti to bring about the end of the Multiverse. That's Abraxas's purpose.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Galactus is what kept Abraxas in check. When the original 616 Galactus died Abraxas was released, and he went about killing Galacti to bring about the end of the Multiverse. That's Abraxas's purpose.

See you said it your self Galactus is not fundamental

Originally posted by illadelph12
It was more debating about whether Tenebrous and Aegis were fundamental parts of existence like Galactus than whether they'd shown on panel feats of firepower on par with Spectre. It's kinda hard to match feats with a character that's been around for decades when you've only been around for a few months. Galactus stated on panel that Tenebrous and Aegis were his peers in the role of universal balance.

Did he actually say they are his peers in the role of universal balance? Can you tell me the issue and I'll check it up?

It is only cosmic balance not Universal.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
It is only cosmic balance not Universal.

Okay. How about the issue then?

Annihilation Silver Surfer issue 3

"There was a war.We of the COSMIC BALANCE only three survived."

I don't follow you Juggernaut. Could you explain your reasoning?

Tshern, I beleive it's Annihilation 3 where Galactus explains to Surfer about Aegis and Tenebrous. I'm at work and don't have my comics handy. I'll have the book and page number when I get home.

Aren't the terms cosmic and universal essentially the same, Juggernaut?

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Annihilation Silver Surfer issue 3

"There was a war.We of the COSMIC BALANCE only three survived."

Huh, he posted the scan. Well, nevermind. It was #3.

And Juggernaut, you're still missing the point. "Cosmic" beings are "universal" beings. Particularly the Abstracts. They embody universal concepts.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Aren't the terms cosmic and universal essentially the same, Juggernaut?

No

Thanks for the info, juggs and illadelph.

And cosmic and universal can be pretty much the same, although cosmic might mean something of a smaller scale, too. Or that's my opinion of the matter. But yes, they are essentially the same.

So being a cosmic being/abstract doesn't make you universal?

Eternity, Death, Oblivion, etc, "cosmic" beings, aren't "universal"?

[Directed to Juggernaut. I beleive Tshern follows my line of reasoning.]

Originally posted by illadelph12
So being a cosmic being/abstract doesn't make you universal?

Eternity, Death, Oblivion, etc, "cosmic" beings, aren't "universal"?

[Directed to Juggernaut. I beleive Tshern follows my line of reasoning.]

Eternity and the others are essentials. Galactus mentioned them that we 3 so they play a lesser part Imo.
BTW Thanos has killed Death with the Ultimate Nullifier so in that case those 2 can also be killed.

Originally posted by illadelph12
So being a cosmic being/abstract doesn't make you universal?

Eternity, Death, Oblivion, etc, "cosmic" beings, aren't "universal"?

[Directed to Juggernaut. I beleive Tshern follows my line of reasoning.]


I think being cosmic doesn't necessarily make you universal. In my opinion Surfer is cosmic, but by no means universal. However, all universal beings that I can quickly come up with are cosmic.

But I still agree with you, the very essence of the meanings of the words in question is the same...

Sorry, the message is probably a bit awkward. I suck at explaining words in English. Damn second languages...

I'm still not following you. Are you saying that because there's more than one that they aren't universal, or that their roll of balance isn't important? You are familiar with Galactus's role in Marvel, right?