Aegis and Tenebrous vs The Spectre.

Started by Juntai10 pages

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Nabu and Spectre. Nabu was one of the insturments in the very creation of the universe[as said in the scan.]. .All of the Lords of Chaos and Order are, and are insturmental to it. One of them is even the equivilent of Eternity; Kismet- the Aspect of the DCU itself. Others govern different things.

In that scan he overwhelms Nabu in Issue 14 of Volume 3, during a flashback brought on by the Phantom Stranger when he was describing to a priest exactly what the Wrath of God was... as the priest had inadvertantly made Corrigan want to judge the entire Earth during a confession. He wanted the priest to know the severity of what he brought on.

Later in the same flashback, Nabu is ready for him. And meets him head on.
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Nabu is the aspect[or insturment in his words] of Destiny, of.. FATE.
"No matter what force you represent I will prevail!"

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"But the Force the Spectre represented created the Lords of Order.... and could likewise... unmake them."

Also in Infinite Crisis, he made a roundabout and kicked the crap out of all of them.

Depends on how you look it. Being immune to one's powers should sometimes be taken into account, but here I want to consider both sides of the coin. Anyways, I believe Spectre could judge these two by as easily as he judges common people, there is no evidence to prove that assumption wrong.

And I believe Spectre wins this every time. How could Aegis and Tenebrous actually harm Spectre? Sneak attack him?

Nice scans and thanks for the additional info.

Originally posted by Tshern
Nice scans and thanks for the additional info.
Check the Spectre respect thread for more. Skeets did a wonderful job with it.

I had picked those scans to show because I believe it acurrately depicted what needed to be seen. Someone important in the cosmic balance, one of the forces of creation itself.
And it just says blankly.
"But the force the Spectre represented created the Lords of Order.... and could likewise... unmake them."

BTW Abraxas has slain all Galactuses except the 616 one because he was defeated by Reed Richards with the Ultimate Nullifier before he could kill 616 Galactus.
So you can take that importance bullshit to somewhere else.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
BTW Abraxas has slayed all Galactuses except the 616 one because he was defeated by Reed Richards with the Ultimate Nullifier before he could kill 616 Galactus.
So you can take that importance bullshit to somewhere else.
Good point, he is certainly killable. But it doesn't need to come to that for Spectre to beat him. It's believable to say Spectre grows to the size of a solar system and punts him across the universe ftw.. And he has so many options with magic that it's rediculous.

They pushed the message through. I'll have a look at the thread, it can't do any harm, I suppose. I only have one arc with Spectre in it, so I am not a specialist, but as far as I know, his opponents can't hurt him in this match even if Spectre only stood there watching.

Oh yeah, and the arc I have doesn't portray Spectre too well...

Originally posted by Tshern
They pushed the message through. I'll have a look at the thread, it can't do any harm, I suppose. I only have one arc with Spectre in it, so I am not a specialist, but as far as I know, his opponents can't hurt him in this match even if Spectre only stood there watching.

Oh yeah, and the arc I have doesn't portray Spectre too well...

What arc?

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
BTW Abraxas has slain all Galactuses except the 616 one because he was defeated by Reed Richards with the Ultimate Nullifier before he could kill 616 Galactus.
So you can take that importance bullshit to somewhere else.

Well, if Reed had not killed Galactus, Abraxas would never had appeared in the first place... But yes, you're very right and your point is valid.

Edit: Juntai, it's called Armageddon Inferno or something. There is Abraxis trying to take over the universe or something. Waverider picks people from the time stream to fight him and eventually the lost members of the JSA return and save the day, although Spectre couldn't do it...

Originally posted by Tshern
Well, if Reed had not killed Galactus, Abraxas would never had appeared in the first place... But yes, you're very right and your point is valid.

Edit: Juntai, it's called Armageddon Inferno or something. There is Abraxis trying to take over the universe or something. Waverider picks people from the time stream to fight him and eventually the lost members of the JSA return and save the day, although Spectre couldn't do it...

Ah an old tale. Spectre was depowered by God after the Crisis and ran around as a more typical mage character, although still powerful, was not as his full glory until the retcons and return to power in Volume 3 of Spectre, which followed a few years AFTER that arc, that happened in what - 91? Volume 3 didn't even get rolling until 93, and didn't end until 97.

The last issue was published 4th of July 1992.

I knew he was not at full power, that would have been plain ridiculous. But yeah, he was still quite powerful, or at least Batman said something like "That's the Spectre. The odds just slipped heavily in our favor." when Ultraboy first saw the Spectre and confused him with Abraxis.

Originally posted by Tshern
The last issue was published 4th of July 1992.

I knew he was not at full power, that would have been plain ridiculous. But yeah, he was still quite powerful, or at least Batman said something like "That's the Spectre. The odds just slipped heavily in our favor." when Ultraboy first saw the Spectre and confused him with Abraxis.

Wasn't this one of the storylines that also led in with Armageddon 2000, where they battled against Hank Hall as Monarch, and eventually came to reside on our Earth?

Sorry, but I don't know. If you have a hunch like that, it is already a lot more that I can say. It isn't a bad arc, though. Many characters that I like: Batman, Lobo, Green Lanterns...

Is Nabu equal to the Endless in DC? I know in Marvel there are degrees of conceptual representation, like say Love and Hate aren't on the same footing as Eternity and Oblivion. They're a rung below Chaos, Order, and Anomoly in the overall hierarchy. Was Nabu above/equal to Dream?

Originally posted by illadelph12
Is Nabu equal to the Endless in DC? I know in Marvel there are degrees of conceptual representation, like say Love and Hate aren't on the same footing as Eternity and Oblivion. They're a rung below Chaos, Order, and Anomoly in the overall hierarchy. Was Nabu above/equal to Dream?
The Endless don't usually appear in DC continuity.

I'm aware they're more Vertigo, but the Lords of Order and Chaos have made appearances in the books.

Originally posted by illadelph12
I'm aware they're more Vertigo, but the Lords of Order and Chaos have made appearances in the books.
And those aren't DC comics, they're Vertigo comics.

What are you making a case for exactly, that one building block of the universe is more important than another, so therefore can't have his ass kicked by Spectre in a hypothetical battle forum?

No. I'm just asking questions. I already qualified that I think Spectre would beat Tenebrous and Aegis per the terms of this thread. I'm simply asking questions regarding Spectre's ability versus universal conceptuality. Nabu was one of many Lords of Order. He wasn't the sole embodiment of Order like, say, Lord Order in Marvel. I'm just seeking parallels for better understanding, and trying to have an intelligent conversation on the subject matter at hand.

Unless you feel this isn't the place, Juntai. If so, I'll cease the line of inquisition. This is your thread.

Originally posted by illadelph12
No. I'm just asking questions. I already qualified that I think Spectre would beat Tenebrous and Aegis per the terms of this thread. I'm simply asking questions regarding Spectre's ability versus universal conceptuality. Nabu was one of many Lords of Order. He wasn't the sole embodiment of Order like, say, Lord Order in Marvel. I'm just seeking parallels for better understanding, and trying to have an intelligent conversation on the subject matter at hand.

Unless you feel this isn't the place, Juntai. If so, I'll cease the line of inquisition. This is your thread.