Originally posted by capt it upHulk turned Adamantium into a ball, before the time when there was secondary adamantium...so ya.
hulk has never dented true admatium let a lone turn it into a ball.thor has never dented true adamtium also. Hulk has failed to break logans skeleton so has herc.
thanos never did that with a wave of his hand. He turned logans skeleton into rubber after logan stabb him and he also had the glove at the time.
But Thor has ripped apart secondary. I have no doubt that Thor could.
Oh, I'm sorry, he didn't even move his hand. I was wrong.
http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theinfinitygauntlet0421ug6.jpg
*ignoring the pis that is Wolverine stabbing Thanos, because that is another debate*
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theinfinitygauntlet0422wg8.jpg
Also, if you did your research slugger, you would find out that he only used the power gem.
Thanos with the gauntlet.
http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theinfinitygauntlet0407bt2.jpg
http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theinfinitygauntlet0409na7.jpg
^^^
And there you have it.
http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theinfinitygauntlet0410ht0.jpg
So he had just his power.
But the question is, would that increase his transmutation skills?
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Wikipedia-During one of his experiments to fuse vibranium with a steel alloy, MacLain fell asleep and woke to find the experiment a success. However, this was due to an unknown catalyst entering the process during his slumber, and he was unable to duplicate the result. The vibranium-steel mix was then poured into a mold for a tank's upper hatch to create the disc shape and painted to become Captain America's symbol.
Rogers' indestructible shield has often been referred to as being an adamantium-vibranium alloy. This is not the case: adamantium was only developed after Rogers was revived from suspended animation, during MacLain's later experiments to try and duplicate the material of the shield (the substance made its first appearance in Avengers Vol. 1 #66, July 1969).
Wikipedia (for "Adamantium"😉:
"Adamantium is a virtually indestructible metal alloy. There exists two types, True and Secondary. True Adamantium was invented by Dr. Myron MacLain in a failed attempt to reverse-engineer the procedure that led to the creation of Captain America's shield, which is an alloy of True Adamantium and Wakandan Vibranium."
Originally posted by SpunkySmurphIsn't adamantium unbreakable? So wouldn't that screw with any chances you have of changing it?
Just because I'm picky:1. Transmutation is changing the molecules. Proves nothing
2. Cap's shield DOESNT HAVE ANY ADAMANTIUM
Cap's shield has in reality, tooken bigger blows than Wolverine. He also has another unbreakable substance(supposedly), Vibranium.
Even if it isn't adamantium, it sure as hell doesn't show.
Plus if the person above me is right, then Thanos did infact destroy this metal.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Wikipedia (for "Adamantium"😉:"Adamantium is a virtually indestructible metal alloy. There exists two types, True and Secondary. True Adamantium was invented by Dr. Myron MacLain in a failed attempt to reverse-engineer the procedure that led to the creation of Captain America's shield, which is an alloy of True Adamantium and Wakandan Vibranium."
Yeah... thats wrong.
Here is the question of the hour though. In trying to recreate the process used in creating Cap's shield why wasn't Vibranium, the one know ingredient in the creation of said shield, used? It is like trying to recreated a ham sandwich with out the ham.
Originally posted by bigbran
Hulk turned Adamantium into a ball, before the time when there was secondary adamantium...so ya.But Thor has ripped apart secondary. I have no doubt that Thor could.
Oh, I'm sorry, he didn't even move his hand. I was wrong.
http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theinfinitygauntlet0421ug6.jpg
*ignoring the pis that is Wolverine stabbing Thanos, because that is another debate*
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theinfinitygauntlet0422wg8.jpgAlso, if you did your research slugger, you would find out that he only used the power gem.
Thanos with the gauntlet.
http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theinfinitygauntlet0407bt2.jpghttp://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theinfinitygauntlet0409na7.jpg
^^^
And there you have it.http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theinfinitygauntlet0410ht0.jpg
So he had just his power.
But the question is, would that increase his transmutation skills?
also when hulk rolled adamtium into a ball it was later reconn to have been secondary adamatium there a massive artical and such about why secondary admatium was made
Originally posted by capt it upUnbreakable means unbreakable. So if you can mess with the density, doesn't that make it "breakable"?
yes not that it matter since it messed with the adamtium on a molecular level which is the only known way to damage it.also when hulk rolled adamtium into a ball it was later reconn to have been secondary adamatium there a massive artical and such about why secondary admatium was made
Also, I guess I haven't seen this article.
So does this mean, that Ultron was secondary adamantium his whole career too?
But if that's true, then Thor should have snapped him in every fight.
Originally posted by bigbran
Unbreakable means unbreakable. So if you can mess with the density, doesn't that make it "breakable"?Also, I guess I haven't seen this article.
So does this mean, that Ultron was secondary adamantium his whole career too?
But if that's true, then Thor should have snapped him in every fight.
Duarbility means nothing to a matter manipulater. They could turn adamantium into a mound of fudge if they felt like it, weaking the molecular bounds is a simple matter.
Originally posted by bigbran
Unbreakable means unbreakable. So if you can mess with the density, doesn't that make it "breakable"?Also, I guess I haven't seen this article.
So does this mean, that Ultron was secondary adamantium his whole career too?
But if that's true, then Thor should have snapped him in every fight.
primary adamtium is only breakable on a moleculor level
Originally posted by capt it up
No it not it a whole new time line. Im not reach at all you are. Hey how about this you ever read the what if wolverine was war? Ya that about as close to the 616 as AOA and logan killed every major bad guy him self so ya that tell you how good info is from AOA.When has scots blast ever in the 616 world been said to break it?
Duh duh duh duh venom on the run 2 duh duh duh duh logan skeleton survived being in the sun.
You had to make me bring them up.
Being in the sun isn't that impressive. The sun's exterior temperature is 11,000 degrees F. The temperature of a nuclear explosions is measured in the TENS OF MILLIONS OF DEGREES F.
A nuclear explosion DWARFS the temperature of the sun.
And why isn't AOA canon? It's the same set up and everything, just happens to be a different timeline, something that affected the "mainstream" universe. I mean, according to you, the "Days of Future Past" isn't canon. Which, to my knowledge, it is.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Yeah... thats wrong.Here is the question of the hour though. In trying to recreate the process used in creating Cap's shield why wasn't Vibranium, the one know ingredient in the creation of said shield, used? It is like trying to recreated a ham sandwich with out the ham.
Notice the 'reverse-engineer'. As in the opposite process. Not re-create
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Being in the sun isn't that impressive. The sun's exterior temperature is 11,000 degrees F. The temperature of a nuclear explosions is measured in the TENS OF MILLIONS OF DEGREES F.A nuclear explosion DWARFS the temperature of the sun.
And why isn't AOA canon? It's the same set up and everything, just happens to be a different timeline, something that affected the "mainstream" universe. I mean, according to you, the "Days of Future Past" isn't canon. Which, to my knowledge, it is.
Because Hulk was killed with a bullet to the brain. 😠
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Being in the sun isn't that impressive. The sun's exterior temperature is 11,000 degrees F. The temperature of a nuclear explosions is measured in the TENS OF MILLIONS OF DEGREES F.A nuclear explosion DWARFS the temperature of the sun.
And why isn't AOA canon? It's the same set up and everything, just happens to be a different timeline, something that affected the "mainstream" universe. I mean, according to you, the "Days of Future Past" isn't canon. Which, to my knowledge, it is.
AOA is nto cannon nor is the days of the future past.
Originally posted by capt it up
Still just like an alternate reality.How is that cannon? If it was cannon it be 616 which it is not unless you want me to prove logan is not missing a hand lol.
Can’t comment sicne you have yet to explain what that is.
It never was all of the x-men are alive of course it not cannon it happen in another reality
Only some of it is cannon like the aprt were they all attack magneto that cannon the flash backs of there lives is not.
No idea what that is.
Makes no sense what you just said
Where's that face-slapping smiley, when I need it?
Are you REALLY arguing that the reason AOA and DOFP aren't canon is because the effects aren't the same in present time?!?!
...Okay, try to follow me here. You're saying that since Wolverine still has his hand, that it can't be true. You DO realize that AOA took place in an alternate future in the 616 universe right? By GOING BACK IN TIME, they stopped it from happening. Wolverine didn't lose his hand.
Days of Future Past happened. Canon. In 616. Get over it.
Same for AOA.
It's called TIME TRAVEL.
Originally posted by bigbran
Actually, Thor was ripping apart hundreds of secondary adamantium Ultrons. He didn't dent them, he broke them.
He could easily dent true adamantium.Also Hulk has rolled adamantium into a ball. Thanos transmuted adamantium into rubber(with the wave of a hand). Hulk has dented Ultron. Wonderman has crushed Ultron's head. Didn't S'ym (or whatever the hell her name was) snap Wolverine's claws? Thanos with Power Gem shattered Cap's shield.
Yea. S'ym snapped Wolverine's claws. With pure physical force. Like they were nothing.
