What determines if a character is above Street Level?

Started by bigbran17 pages

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Duarbility means nothing to a matter manipulater. They could turn adamantium into a mound of fudge if they felt like it, weaking the molecular bounds is a simple matter.
Thus breakable.
If something is vunerbal to one thing, does this make it invincible?
Being impervious to physical harm doesn't make it unbreakable.
He broke down, BROKE DOWN, the metal, to change it.

Also, do you guys really think that a cosmic being like Galactus couldn't snap adamantium?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Yea. S'ym snapped Wolverine's claws. With pure [B]physical force. Like they were nothing. [/B]
Hmmm, I guess that answers that.

Originally posted by capt it up
yes not that it matter since it messed with the adamtium on a molecular level which is the only known way to damage it.

also when hulk rolled adamtium into a ball it was later reconn to have been secondary adamatium there a massive artical and such about why secondary admatium was made

Where is said article?

Originally posted by bigbran
Thus breakable.
If something is vunerbal to one thing, does this make it invincible?
Being impervious to physical harm doesn't make it unbreakable.
He broke down, BROKE DOWN, the metal, to change it.

Also, do you guys really think that a cosmic being like Galactus couldn't snap adamantium?

Primary Adamantium is unbreakable. Someone with matter manipulation can alter adamantium because in essance they aren't even dealing with Adamantium anymore as the molecular make up has changed. Do you understand?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Where's that face-slapping smiley, when I need it?

Are you REALLY arguing that the reason AOA and DOFP aren't canon is because the effects aren't the same in present time?!?!

...Okay, try to follow me here. You're saying that since Wolverine still has his hand, that it can't be true. You DO realize that AOA took place in an alternate future in the 616 universe right? By GOING BACK IN TIME, they stopped it from happening. Wolverine didn't lose his hand.

Days of Future Past happened. Canon. In 616. Get over it.

Same for AOA.

It's called TIME TRAVEL.

Ya and do you realize nothing that cable or bishop did affected there future which means it a whole nother time line.

How is days of the future past cannon? all the x-men are alive nothing in there universe means squat to 616 at the moment.

AOA never took place in the 616 universe it an alternate universe. The what if wolverine was war also split from the normal universe from apoc on so ya do you think of that as cannon hell no. Not to mention there are some major differences in AOA that are not in 616

Originally posted by bigbran
Hmmm, I guess that answers that.

they were also in another universe all togather were every x-men was killed lol

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Where is said article?

no idea I read it like 2 years ago I surpirzed none of you ever heard why they came out with secondary adamatium

Originally posted by capt it up
it not cannon and enevr was. it easily explain becuase cable form the future so is bishop yet nothing they do in the past will affect there future it will simply help the 616 universe.

AOA is nto cannon nor is the days of the future past.

...That doesn't make any sense. Isn't that what Cable is CONSTANTLY doing? Trying to prevent some big badness from happening that he knows will happen in the future? Yes. Yes it is.

Try again. Explain to me why AOA and DOFP aren't canon.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Primary Adamantium is unbreakable. Someone with matter manipulation can alter adamantium because in essance they aren't even dealing with Adamantium anymore as the molecular make up has changed. Do you understand?
I always understood.
But if your saying that they aren't dealing with it. Then wouldn't they just be able to do it with the same effort as it takes to change a piece of bread?
So, Magneto should be able to affect it the same as he does weaker metals? Since he isn't dealing with it.

Originally posted by capt it up
Ya and do you realize nothing that cable or bishop did affected there future which means it a whole nother time line.

How is days of the future past cannon? all the x-men are alive nothing in there universe means squat to 616 at the moment.

AOA never took place in the 616 universe it an alternate universe. The what if wolverine was war also split from the normal universe from apoc on so ya do you think of that as cannon hell no. Not to mention there are some major differences in AOA that are not in 616

...The What Ifs aren't canon because they AREN'T CANON. They're specifically made to be WHAT-IFS. HYPOTHETICAL SITUATIONS. Why is that so hard to understand?

And what are these major differences in AOA from 616 that you speak of? List some, if not all of them.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
...That doesn't make any sense. Isn't that what Cable is CONSTANTLY doing? Trying to prevent some big badness from happening that he knows will happen in the future? Yes. Yes it is.

Try again. Explain to me why AOA and DOFP aren't canon.


ugg cables tryign to help there future not his own.. also aoa is not cables time if I remeber correctly. Prove how a0a is 616 please im begging to know how it 616 since then that would mean 616 was another whole reality and not 616

DofP is Earth 811 not earth 616. It isn't canon but the story surrounding it is.

Could Galactus, with purely physical force, snap a 1" thick bar of true adamantium?

AoA is cannon, Captitup is making shit up.

Nate Grey, Dark Beast, Blink, Holocaust all came from the AoA universe to this one....

He's reaching. The only change is... duh duh duh... timeline changes...
The characters.. their powers.. their powerlevels... are all the same...

wolverine was still infected with true adamantium at the point where xavier died...

scott and his brother still fell to earth from a plane..

he doesn't want to believe stuff like that is cannon because it means he is wrong.

Originally posted by rotiart
AoA is cannon, Captitup is making shit up.

Nate Grey, Dark Beast, Blink, Holocaust all came from the AoA universe to this one....

He's reaching. The only change is... duh duh duh... timeline changes...
The characters.. their powers.. their powerlevels... are all the same...

wolverine was still infected with true adamantium at the point where xavier died...

scott and his brother still fell to earth from a plane..

he doesn't want to believe stuff like that is cannon because it means he is wrong.

EXACTLY.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
...The What Ifs aren't canon because they AREN'T CANON. They're specifically made to be WHAT-IFS. HYPOTHETICAL SITUATIONS. Why is that so hard to understand?

And what are these major differences in AOA from 616 that you speak of? List some, if not all of them.


lets see the gauthier family for one they had the brother powers already formed correct how ever in the 616 world there younger sibblings have yet to show there powers.

aoa is a what if it whole idea is just a huge what if. it supose to be what if magneto took over the x-men becuase charlies died that the whole freaken point.

I don't know what it so hard for you to get through your head. charlies dieng is a major deifference

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Could Galactus, with purely physical force, snap a 1" thick bar of true adamantium?

no, not with physical force. but if he wanted to snap it, he prob could.

..... you don't think someone like galactus couldn't snap a ...

wow.

Originally posted by rotiart
AoA is cannon, Captitup is making shit up.

Nate Grey, Dark Beast, Blink, Holocaust all came from the AoA universe to this one....

He's reaching. The only change is... duh duh duh... timeline changes...
The characters.. their powers.. their powerlevels... are all the same...

wolverine was still infected with true adamantium at the point where xavier died...

scott and his brother still fell to earth from a plane..

he doesn't want to believe stuff like that is cannon because it means he is wrong.


not at all it just not cannon the whole point of it not cannon it a what if. it the same only up to when charlies death after that it a whole nother universe. als0 wolverine does not have true adamtium in him. I not lieing nor am I reaching.

also you ever realize there no 616 blink?

do you realize that as far as cyclop and wolverine are concerned... in aoa... compared to 616 the only differences are the changes to the timeline...

the relative powersets of both cyclops and wolverine did NOT change.

and cyclops still cut off the hand.

its not like ultimates universe where there ARE changes to the items and powersets