What determines if a character is above Street Level?

Originally posted by capt it up
? was that the normal universe I doubt it since logan still ahs his adamatium claws.

Alternate reality and also you do realize he shot off the joint not the adamatium.

Neither of them are official sources.

That was secondary adamatium. Not that it matter since logan skeleton is not true adamatium.

Non of that is 616 and in ultimate universe it stated as almost unbreakable.

It also been referred to as unbreakable. The fact is has logan skeleton ever been broken?

Not but the living tribunal can turn any thing into any thing.

Why? Because I say some thing that been stated and shown repeatedly in comic to be unbreakable is in fact unbreakable unless on a molecular level.
Currently for all intents and purposes it appears indestructible... but there was a time the

Yes but logans skeleton ahs yet to be damage at all by physical force.

marvel.com is not an "official source?"
Death's Head was 616 universe
Age of Apocalypse is still 616 universe... the character powers and item descriptions don't change like they might in Ultimates (You're reaching)
Every source i show says it was true adamantium thor damaged not secondary. Even from Answers.com... 4 different sources.. and one is even marvel.com
Its been referred to as unbreakable... and cyclops blasts have been said as being able to damage it.
Cyclops blasts in Age of Apocalypse enveloped the whole hand... not the joint.

All sites so far allude to the fact that if you don't got enough true adamantium.... a nuclear bomb at ground level would damage it. meaning.... duh duh duh... it isn't indestructible.

Infinity Gauntlet punch = broken adamantium.

King Thor hammer blow = broken adamantium.

Adamantium isn't unbreakable. Do you really think that if say....the living tribunal wanted to, he couldn't snap Wolverine like a twig using strength alone?

I always wondered... if you took hulk... and gave him the power gem... and then used the mind gem to put him at "peak anger" all the time... kinda like during the onslaught thing... how strong would he be. 😄

Originally posted by rotiart
marvel.com is not an "official source?"

Originally posted by rotiart
Death's Head was 616 universe

Originally posted by rotiart
Age of Apocalypse is still 616 universe... the character powers and item descriptions on't change like they might in Ultimates (You're reaching)

Originally posted by rotiart
Every source i show says it was true adamantium thor damaged not secondary.

Originally posted by rotiart
Even from Answers.com... 4 different sources.. and one is even marvel.com

Originally posted by rotiart
Its been referred to as unbreakable... and cyclops blasts have been said as being able to damage it.

Originally posted by rotiart
All sites so far allude to the fact that if you don't got enough true adamantium.... a nuclear bomb at ground level would damage it. meaning.... duh duh duh... it isn't indestructible.

You had to make me bring them up.

Originally posted by Soljer
Infinity Gauntlet punch = broken adamantium.

King Thor hammer blow = broken adamantium.

Adamantium isn't unbreakable. Do you really think that if say....the living tribunal wanted to, he couldn't snap Wolverine like a twig using strength alone?

king thor with odin powers blasted it which destroyed it on a molecular level

You are ASSUMING it destroyed it on a molecular level... and not that it was merely the power of the blast that destroyed it.

Originally posted by capt it up
No it not it allows fans to right on it.

You mean when the x-men went to another dimension and were all killed?

No it not it a whole new time line. Im not reach at all you are. Hey how about this you ever read the what if wolverine was war? Ya that about as close to the 616 as AOA and logan killed every major bad guy him self so ya that tell you how good info is from AOA.

I love to see the official source that says that. Not to mention hulk has fail to damage logans skeleton repeatedly

Neither of which are official.

When has scots blast ever in the 616 world been said to break it?

Duh duh duh duh venom on the run 2 duh duh duh duh logan skeleton survived being in the sun.

You had to make me bring them up.

And that's why Capt is better then your average Wolverine fan

It's nice to see you put all that Wolverine knowledge into an owning

Originally posted by rotiart
You are ASSUMING it destroyed it on a molecular level... and not that it was merely the power of the blast that destroyed it.

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Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
And that's why Capt is better then your average Wolverine fan

It's nice to see you put all that Wolverine knowledge into an owning

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
This one has been on my mind for awhile... the terminology of what is Street Level is too vague. Some would consider Spiderman street level, and others would argue he's beyond. In terms of what and who he fights he would be Street Level, but in terms of powerset he is beyond DD, Cap, Batman, etc. So I can see what both sides are getting at.

Is it the fact that they cannot fly? Or that they are fighting normal crooks and "people on the street", or what? What makes a character street level, and where would you draw the line.

Powers.
Feats.
Location.
Statistics.
Other.

Originally posted by capt it up
No it not it allows fans to right on it.

You mean when the x-men went to another dimension and were all killed?

No it not it a whole new time line. Im not reach at all you are. Hey how about this you ever read the what if wolverine was war? Ya that about as close to the 616 as AOA and logan killed every major bad guy him self so ya that tell you how good info is from AOA.

I love to see the official source that says that. Not to mention hulk has fail to damage logans skeleton repeatedly

Neither of which are official.

When has scots blast ever in the 616 world been said to break it?

Duh duh duh duh venom on the run 2 duh duh duh duh logan skeleton survived being in the sun.

You had to make me bring them up.

Age of apoc is still "616" because all thats changed is the "time" this isn't like 626 or 606 where punisher killed off every hero.

Age of Apoc is cannon.
Death's Head is cannon.

The What If's aren't.
Are you gonna say that Days of Futures past isn't cannon anymore?
House of M isn't cannon?
LegionQuest?

Surfer can survive being in the sun... but gets hurt by human torch. So you're gonna say surfer is a durability chump now?

Originally posted by capt it up
thanks I think .

It was a compliment 😉

Originally posted by bigbran
Well duh, A healing factor and claws.

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Wrong. That's what makes you a Celestial

Originally posted by rotiart
Age of apoc is still "616" because all thats changed is the "time" this isn't like 626 or 606 where punisher killed off every hero.

Originally posted by rotiart
Age of Apoc is cannon.

Originally posted by rotiart
Death's Head is cannon.

Originally posted by rotiart
Are you gonna say that Days of Futures past isn't cannon anymore?

Originally posted by rotiart
House of M isn't cannon?

Originally posted by rotiart
LegionQuest?

Originally posted by rotiart
Surfer can survive being in the sun... but gets hurt by human torch. So you're gonna say surfer is a durability chump now?

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
It was a compliment 😉

Originally posted by capt it up

That was secondary

Also Hulk has rolled adamantium into a ball. Thanos transmuted adamantium into rubber(with the wave of a hand). Hulk has dented Ultron. Wonderman has crushed Ultron's head. Didn't S'ym (or whatever the hell her name was) snap Wolverine's claws? Thanos with Power Gem shattered Cap's shield.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
🙄

Wrong. That's what makes you a Celestial

Originally posted by bigbran
Actually, Thor was ripping apart hundreds of secondary adamantium Ultrons. He didn't dent them, he broke them.
He could easily dent true adamantium.

Also Hulk has rolled adamantium into a ball. Thanos transmuted adamantium into rubber(with the wave of a hand). Hulk has dented Ultron. Wonderman has crushed Ultron's head. Didn't S'ym (or whatever the hell her name was) snap Wolverine's claws?

thor has never dented true adamtium also. Hulk has failed to break logans skeleton so has herc.

thanos never did that with a wave of his hand. He turned logans skeleton into rubber after logan stabb him and he also had the glove at the time.

Originally posted by bigbran
Actually, Thor was ripping apart hundreds of secondary adamantium Ultrons. He didn't dent them, he broke them.
He could easily dent true adamantium.

Also Hulk has rolled adamantium into a ball. Thanos transmuted adamantium into rubber(with the wave of a hand). Hulk has dented Ultron. Wonderman has crushed Ultron's head. Didn't S'ym (or whatever the hell her name was) snap Wolverine's claws? Thanos with Power Gem shattered Cap's shield.

Just because I'm picky:

1. Transmutation is changing the molecules. Proves nothing
2. Cap's shield DOESNT HAVE ANY ADAMANTIUM