Jean Grey vs. Storm

Started by xmarksthespot50 pages

Originally posted by 2damnloud
The scan says otherwise. It says she can "shape those energies to her will"

What source stated that thought was "light speed"?

Narration Psylocke's telekinetic speed of thought is speed of light. And on panel feats such as interstellar communication via telepathy.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
[B]"At great depths within Jupiter, the pressure is so great that the hydrogen atoms are broken up and the electrons are freed so that the resulting atoms consist of bare protons. This produces a state in which the hydrogen becomes metallic"

^ Storm can created atmospheric pressure STRONGER than that. [/B]

Am I supposed to care. She can't do anything without lungs.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
The scan says otherwise. It says she can "shape those energies to her will"

What source stated that thought was "light speed"?

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/996/speedofthoughtmh6.jpg

BTW She manipulates those energies in order to create meteorological effects. Again in that scan she can percieve Fire as energy and yet she can't manipulate it. The same with this...she can't manipulate this energy storm.

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She may be able to percieve energy as patterns....but it doesn't mean she can manipulate all the energy she percieves...i.e. The Fire. Whatever energy she manipulates only applies to meteorological purposes.

"At great depths within Jupiter, the pressure is so great that the hydrogen atoms are broken up and the electrons are freed so that the resulting atoms consist of bare protons. This produces a state in which the hydrogen becomes metallic"

^ Storm can created atmospheric pressure STRONGER than that.

Won't help because her powers aren't as fast as Jean.

Storm could munipulate the energy in Jean's body. It's ELECTRICAL, just like the flow of elecrons that make lightning.

It's quite simple actually 🙄

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Storm could munipulate the energy in Jean's body. It's ELECTRICAL, just like the flow of elecrons that make lightning.

It's quite simple actually.

No it's not. Considering she can't. She once tried to channel her lightning through a security lock in a specific manner. She failed and passed out. Moira states her powers don't work that way. She can't control machinery let alone people. Oh and fyi a brain does not have electricity flowing around it.

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The machinery was too much energy for her to control.

The body wouldn't be that difficult

It's quite feasible. 😮‍💨

Here is the answer to all your problems 2damnloud.
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Storm is ALTERING her perception of the world around her to see in a pure energy form.

It states perfectly clear that Storm DOES NOT view the world in that state constantly.

By the time she alters her view to engery, to make a "thunderstorm" in Jean's head, she will be dead.
Thx.

It's quite feasible

Are you attempting to use a large vocabulary?

Well....I learned that not only do Storm fanboys ignore logic, they can't put a coherent sentence together.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
http://img63.imageshack.us/my.php?image=energyworld2io.jpg
http://img63.imageshack.us/my.php?image=energyworld24lq.jpg
And? She fried a lock. Yay.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
The machinery was too much energy for her to control.

The body wouldn't be that difficult

It's quite feasible. 😮‍💨

Yes because failing to channel her electricity in a specific manner through machinery, and then passing out clearly means she can control a human brain or body, which involves complicated biochemical as well as bioelectrical interactions.
Originally posted by What If...
to make a "thunderstorm" in Jean's head, she will be dead.
Thx.
Not that she could, even if she had time.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
http://img63.imageshack.us/my.php?image=energyworld2io.jpg
http://img63.imageshack.us/my.php?image=energyworld24lq.jpg

The machinery was too much energy for her to control.

The body wouldn't be that difficult

It's quite feasible. 😮‍💨

Nope....that's just speculation. Moira said Storms powers don't work that way. It' not in the nature of Storms powers.

She can't manipulate this:

http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stormandcomputerenergy1id.jpg

or this

http://img484.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenv208607rougherqb1.jpg

And in the scan you showed....she could percieve fire as energy...yet she can't manipulate fire. Her psionic powers are confined to meteorological purposes.

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That's what I've been saying all along. She see's the world as energy i.e. Even fire. She can't manipulate every energy she percieves. i.e. Fire...and Magnetos EM storm.

Her perception is automatically altered when she uses her powers. Her perception would be altered before the fight starts.

It's not that hard.

Her altered perception and her weather munipulation are INSEPERABLE.

She has WAY too much power

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Her perception is automatically altered when she uses her powers. Her perception would be altered before the fight starts.

It's not that hard.

Her altered perception and her weather munipulation are INSEPERABLE.

Based on? Oh that's right. Nothing.

Abstract
The purpose of this essay is to calculate the power of the mutant Storm from the X-Men movie (2000) releases in the creation of a tornado.

Introduction

Power is the rate at which work is done or energy is consumed. Therefore if you can find the amount of energy in a tornado you can can figure the power involved in making it if you divide the energy by the time it takes to create.

Procedure

Look online for the energy inside of an average tornado.
Watch X-Men the movie and find a scene where Storm creates a tornado.
Record the time it takes for her to make the tornado by either using a stopwatch or watching a timer in the bottom of screen (if available)
Divide the energy by the time to determine power.
Analysis

According to USA Today: Weather the average tornado releases approximately 10,000 kilowatt-hours of energy. Since one watt equals 1 joule per second we know that 1kilowatt equals 1,000 joules per second or that 1 kilowatt-hour = 1,000*60*60 = 3,600,000 joules. Therefore lets assume the tornado that Storm produces involves the release of 36 billion joules or 36 × 109 joules. Now I divide that by the time it took Storm to create a tornado, which was approximately 3 seconds. 36 billion divided by 3 is 12 billion watts.

The average person consumes 2500 food calories a day which is about 10,460,000 joules. To get the power you must divide by how many seconds there in a day, which is 86,400. 10,460 joules divided by 86,400 seconds is roughly equal to 120 watts.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Abstract
The purpose of this essay is to calculate the power of the mutant Storm from the X-Men movie (2000) releases in the creation of a tornado.

Introduction

Power is the rate at which work is done or energy is consumed. Therefore if you can find the amount of energy in a tornado you can can figure the power involved in making it if you divide the energy by the time it takes to create.

Procedure

Look online for the energy inside of an average tornado.
Watch X-Men the movie and find a scene where Storm creates a tornado.
Record the time it takes for her to make the tornado by either using a stopwatch or watching a timer in the bottom of screen (if available)
Divide the energy by the time to determine power.
Analysis

According to USA Today: Weather the average tornado releases approximately 10,000 kilowatt-hours of energy. Since one watt equals 1 joule per second we know that 1kilowatt equals 1,000 joules per second or that 1 kilowatt-hour = 1,000*60*60 = 3,600,000 joules. Therefore lets assume the tornado that Storm produces involves the release of 36 billion joules or 36 × 109 joules. Now I divide that by the time it took Storm to create a tornado, which was approximately 3 seconds. 36 billion divided by 3 is 12 billion watts.

The average person consumes 2500 food calories a day which is about 10,460,000 joules. To get the power you must divide by how many seconds there in a day, which is 86,400. 10,460 joules divided by 86,400 seconds is roughly equal to 120 watts.

😕 Does anyone else care? I know I don't.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Based on? Oh that's right. Nothing.

Based on the fact that THAT'S how her pwers work. 😆

She munipulates the energy patterns she perceives

Continued....

Conclusion

I concluded that Storm delivers approximately 12 gigawatts of power in the creation of a tornado. Which is an incredibly large amount of power for one person to have. For comparison the power of the average person is about 120 watts making Storm about 100 million times more powerful than you or I.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Based on the fact that THAT'S how her pwers work. 😆

She munipulates the energy patterns she perceives

Continued....

Conclusion

I concluded that Storm delivers approximately 12 gigawatts of power in the creation of a tornado. Which is an incredibly large amount of power for one person to have. For comparison the power of the average person is about 120 watts making Storm about 100 million times more powerful than you or I.

It specifically states she alters her sensory perception consciously to perceive energy in the manner in Xtreme X-Men. Additionally it means nothing in relation to the human body.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Abstract
The purpose of this essay is to calculate the power of the mutant Storm from the X-Men movie (2000) releases in the creation of a tornado.

Introduction

Power is the rate at which work is done or energy is consumed. Therefore if you can find the amount of energy in a tornado you can can figure the power involved in making it if you divide the energy by the time it takes to create.

Procedure

Look online for the energy inside of an average tornado.
Watch X-Men the movie and find a scene where Storm creates a tornado.
Record the time it takes for her to make the tornado by either using a stopwatch or watching a timer in the bottom of screen (if available)
Divide the energy by the time to determine power.
Analysis

According to USA Today: Weather the average tornado releases approximately 10,000 kilowatt-hours of energy. Since one watt equals 1 joule per second we know that 1kilowatt equals 1,000 joules per second or that 1 kilowatt-hour = 1,000*60*60 = 3,600,000 joules. Therefore lets assume the tornado that Storm produces involves the release of 36 billion joules or 36 × 109 joules. Now I divide that by the time it took Storm to create a tornado, which was approximately [b]3 seconds. 36 billion divided by 3 is 12 billion watts.

The average person consumes 2500 food calories a day which is about 10,460,000 joules. To get the power you must divide by how many seconds there in a day, which is 86,400. 10,460 joules divided by 86,400 seconds is roughly equal to 120 watts. [/B]

3 seconds...is far too slow.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Based on the fact that THAT'S how her pwers work. 😆

She munipulates the energy patterns she perceives

Continued....

Conclusion

I concluded that Storm delivers approximately 12 gigawatts of power in the creation of a tornado. Which is an incredibly large amount of power for one person to have. For comparison the power of the average person is about 120 watts making Storm about 100 million times more powerful than you or I.

You're taking it out of context...her powers are limited to meterological purposes...hence the limitations in the Moira and Magneto scan and the Fire Energy in your X-treme scan.

Jean's Dead or a double K.O., though the latter is doubtful

It's over.

Jean's great, she's just not touching storm.

Sorry, your copy-and-paste babble doesn't prove...anything.

And are you really trying to use scenes from X-men the movie? ❌

Not that she could, even if she had time.

o rly?

Originally posted by What If...
o rly?
Yes. Notice when she alters her perceptions people are still just people.

Originally posted by What If...
Sorry, your copy-and-paste babble doesn't prove...anything.

And are you really trying to use scenes from X-men the movie? ❌

o rly?

Movie, comic, cartoon.....

She still at least creates 'A' tornado(one) in all three scenarios.

That one simple move make her 100,000,000 times more powerful than the average human

She creates them like nothing.

She's too powerful

Argue amongst yourselves. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Jean's Dead or a double K.O., though the latter is doubtful

It's over.

Jean's great, she's just not touching storm.

She doesn't need to touch her. She's a telekinetic. 🙂