Originally posted by Rutog98
You're the fanboy. Hmmm, tell me if I am right. I don't have the issue in front of me. Poccy and Mags were duking it out. Magneto greatly reduced his retaliation. Poccy. asked him, "What are you doing?" Magneto responds with, "Concentrating" and then tears him up.You need to start using your head more. Magneto is reaching into the other characters body to locate microscopic traces of iron that does not amount to much. He then has to manipuate it. It is much easier to grab a car. Do you remember how Betsy could smash down walls but was unable to pick up a dime with her TK? Same applies here only Magneto is more skilled, but the trick still requires more time and concentration than say picking up a car. Against an opponent like Ororo, Magneto would be stupid to attempt in open combat. He generally uses this power against normal humans, bruiser type characters who don't have enormous energy levels to attack him with or very low level energy characters whom he greatly outpowers.
BTW, he should not have been able to pull this on Poccy. He has the ability to absorb and rechannel energy like Bishop. In other words, he should been able to feel that energy building in him and thrown it back in Magneto's face. The only thing you are accomplishing is telling me why Magneto should not be as respected as writers try to portray him in combat. Why are they always having to weaken characters when they fight him if he were so powerful?
Oh? You mean kinda like right here where "with nothing more than a furrowed brow" he tears apart these dudes with nothing more than a "fraction of a fraction" of his power?
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/940/magripsapartneo7do.jpg
You make me laugh. 😆
Both Magneto AND Jean would beat Storm 10/10. NO CONTEST.
Originally posted by Soljer
It doesn't matter, the result is the same: one dead weather witch.
lol. In your dreams. First off, in regards to Jean Grey, the only reason your side is trying to make a huge deal about Jean striking before Ororo is because Storm has much more considerable resoursces to bring to bear and you know this. You know Jean's TK is nowhere near strong enough to deal with what Storm can put out. Magneto is much stronger than Jean Grey and look at the hard time he has had with Storm in continuity. He even admits that Storm could defeat him if she did not hold back. That squashes Jean time and again. You should have taken that 50/50 shot thing those other Storm fans gave you and ran with it because even that really slices Storm. 80 percent in Storm's favor is far more realistic.
Originally posted by batdude123
Oh? You mean kinda like right here where "with nothing more than a furrowed brow" he tears apart these dudes with nothing more than a "fraction of a fraction" of his power?http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/940/magripsapartneo7do.jpg
You make me laugh. 😆
Both Magneto AND Jean would beat Storm 10/10. NO CONTEST.
Cool. So show me where he has done this against a character on Storm's level? These are very low level energy characters compared to Storm. It fits with what I said earlier. Neo are different from mutants and humans. I don't know if they have more iron in their blood or what, but I do know that Storm isn't going to have more than any other regular person. Therefore, Magneto would have to reach in her body and find that metal before he can manipuate it. Once he finds it, he can tear her up. However, Storm's attack on him, simultaneously, is deadly on impact. See the difference? He searches and grabs. She is percussive.
BTW, you do realize that Claremont created those Neo characters, right? He stated on a newsgroup years ago that this issue greatly devalued the Neo and that they were much more formidable than that.
Originally posted by Brian Oswald
So how about he creates a forcefield and then has all the time in the world to 'find' the iron in her blood and gingerly rip it from her body?
Won't work. Storm has smashed his force-field before. She summons winds to smash it again and then time sends hailstones with it and he's had it.
Originally posted by Rutog98
Won't work. Storm has smashed his force-field before. She summons winds to smash it again and then time sends hailstones with it and he's had it.
Galactus couldn't pierce his forcefield.
Multiple nuclear explosions couldn't pierce his forcefield.
He was unaffected by Black Bolt's scream.
And yet a coule hailstones are gonna sudden send him running? Stop spouting bullshit, idiot.
Originally posted by Brian Oswald
Show me a scan of this. And tell me how hailstones will be strong enough to take down Magneto who has class 100 durability when using his powers and has taken nukes with out shields up
When has he ever taken a nuke blast without a shield?
You'll have to read Uncanny 150 for where storm smashed through his bubble. You can also read circa Uncanny 112-114 where Storm gets throug his personal field with a blizzard and nearly takes him out of the fight. He states that she could have beaten him she did not hold back. She held back because she was using enough power to kill him. I don't have a scanner.
In X-Men: "Search for Xavier," I seem to recall Storm summoning hail with such force that she deatomized the ground. 😄 she said in jest that she was hurling the stones at 90 mph, but the had to be going MUCH faster than that since the stones started well above a falling Gambit and reached the ground before he did.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Yeah, Thor hammering at the shield with Mjolnir couldn't break the shields but obviously a little wind can. 😐
Don't you get it, man, Storm's like..an elemental, she taps into like...the earth and stuff. She's WAY more powerful than Thor. WAY more powerful than multiple nuclear explosions and black bolt's scream!
She can like...make...wind and stuff, man!
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Yeah, Thor hammering at the shield with Mjolnir couldn't break the shields but obviously a little wind can. 😐
Thor is written up and down. In some issues, he can lift the midgard serpent. In others, you get this. The same applies with his weather powers. Sometimes they are strong, sometimes not. Thor has absorbed Magneto's force-field with his hammer anyway. That issue was junk. Thor was badly written down. Thor can wield magnetic energies on a scale much greater than Magneto. He once did so against a Celestial.
And yes, Storm is FAR more powerful than nuclear explosions. Do you realize that an average hurricane, at any given moment, is generating enough energy to equal a thousand Hiroshima-type atomic bombs? Storm has been able to fucus to full energy of a storm into a lightning bolt in the past. She has also channelled continent-sized storms through her body. An average hurricane is merely a pitance in comparison to a storm like this. Storm cells carry a tremendous amount of power and Storm can focus those energies. She can easily top a nuke if she wanted to.
Originally posted by Rutog98She doesn't continually sustain weather effects through personal energy output, she manipulates weather patterns to generate them. And a thousand nuclear weapons still produces more damage.
And yes, Storm is FAR more powerful than nuclear explosions. Do you realize that an average hurricane, at any given moment, is generating enough energy to equal a thousand Hiroshima-type atomic bombs?
Originally posted by Rutog98
Thor is written up and down. In some issues, he can lift the midgard serpent. In others, you get this. The same applies with his weather powers. Sometimes they are strong, sometimes not. Thor has absorbed Magneto's force-field with his hammer anyway. That issue was junk. Thor was badly written down. Thor can wield magnetic energies on a scale much greater than Magneto. He once did so against a Celestial.And yes, Storm is FAR more powerful than nuclear explosions. Do you realize that an average hurricane, at any given moment, is generating enough energy to equal a thousand Hiroshima-type atomic bombs? Storm has been able to fucus to full energy of a storm into a lightning bolt in the past. She has also channelled continent-sized storms through her body. An average hurricane is merely a pitance in comparison to a storm like this. Storm cells carry a tremendous amount of power and Storm can focus those energies. She can easily top a nuke if she wanted to.
Wow.
You are just.... BY FAR the biggest Storm fanboy EVER.
As Soljer said, stop spouting bullshit.
Originally posted by batdude123It's accurate to a very limited extent and highly disingenuous. A large scale hurricane outputs the same amount of heat as a ~10 megaton nuclear device over 20 minutes. The difference being it's over a long period of time and over a large dispersed area. An actual nuclear device generates a massive amount of energy in a relatively small location in a comparatively tiny amount of time. Bottom line hurricane winds are insufficient to break the forcefield.
Wow.You are just.... BY FAR the biggest Storm fanboy EVER.
As Soljer said, stop spouting bullshit.
regarding Magneto. Magneto's power limits are self imposed, if that mo-fo wanted to flip Earth on its axis he could. and the iron in the blood thing is misleading. Mags could just as easily manipulate the LDL cholesterol in yr blood or jam your aorta or leech the calcium from yr bones... Magneto vs Storm would destroy Earth.
asteroid M was un-anchored/ not tethered to the ground.
You know why? Every time Storm accomplishes ANYTHING against him, he doesn't have his shield on.
Oh, and Rutog, you are now officially the most Magneto-underestimating guy in this board. Putting aside every major feat of his and pimping Storm's feats is just ridicolous way of debating. Best showings for anyone, one-on-one, Magneto would own Storm. In fact, he already has. Multiple times. With ease.
