Rutog, I get your Storm love, I appreciate that. But please resort to a more meaningful rebuttals. Seriously.
As for me, I can defend Storm against Jean's telepathic attacks. But with her TK? Come on, she's Omega-level telekinetic...I don't think Ororo has enough reflexes to cover or avoid everything Jean can throw at her AT THE SAME TIME.
Jean wins with her TK.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
She has never moved thousands of tons. She provides structural support to a building - skyscraper my ass. I'd like to see her try and lift anything the size of Asteroid M.Do you know what you're forgetting. Magneto lifts a whole bunch more than metal.
Oh yes she has. In the X-Men/Teen Titans cross over, she moved thousands of tons of boulders with her winds. That skyscraper would have put her in the hundred ton range.
Her lifting Astroid M? I'm sure she could, if she wanted, but the point is she can exert much greater force against Magneto than he can against her. She is not made up of metal. She also controls much more energy than Mags quantitavely. Magneto has never been able to alter as much of the Earth's ecosystem as Ororo without the aid of a machine.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
She doesn't continually sustain weather effects through personal energy output, she manipulates weather patterns to generate them. And a thousand nuclear weapons still produces more damage.
You missed the point of what I said. Storm can and has focused the full energy of a storm into a single electrical bolt.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
It's accurate to a very limited extent and highly disingenuous. A large scale hurricane outputs the same amount of heat as a ~10 megaton nuclear device over 20 minutes. The difference being it's over a long period of time and over a large dispersed area. An actual nuclear device generates a massive amount of energy in a relatively small location in a comparatively tiny amount of time. Bottom line hurricane winds are insufficient to break the forcefield.
You are correct about hurricane force-fields not being able to break his force-field, but we are talking Storm here. She generates winds MUCH more powerful than any hurricane or tornado exponentially. She has punched her way through a mountain by surrounding herself with a pressure dome and summoning winds up strong enough to punch it through rock. This is a lady who has lived a skyscraper with her winds and her winds have been stated to be strong enough to level mountains. This is not hyperbole as she has also generated fields of pressure on Earth greater than that on the surface of Jupiter. She has summoned winds strong enough to smash Magneto's force-field. She has summoned winds strong enough to fly her from New Orleans to New York in a matter of minutes. This means her winds are moving at a couple of thousand miles per hour to accomplish these feats. This cannot be disputed. Storm's powers give her the ability to manipulate the Earth's resources to create the worst case scenerios.
Originally posted by don't shiv
regarding Magneto. Magneto's power limits are self imposed, if that mo-fo wanted to flip Earth on its axis he could. and the iron in the blood thing is misleading. Mags could just as easily manipulate the LDL cholesterol in yr blood or jam your aorta or leech the calcium from yr bones... Magneto vs Storm would destroy Earth.asteroid M was un-anchored/ not tethered to the ground.
LOL! Magneto cannot do any such thing to the Earth without the aid of a machine. In Magneto War, he had to use a machine to turn off the lights around the world. When the machine was broken and he was forced to try and manipulate the energy without the aid of the machine, he was lucky to live as it burned his power out and he failed miserably.
In regards to Storm vs. Jean, Storm wins. Jean's powers being instanteous is a hyperbole. She still has to work within the relm of the speed of thought. I read in the issue where Moira died where Xavier's powers were called instanteous because it worked at the speed of thought. That said, that means you have to include concentration to bring the power online and to bear. Storm attacks faster than Jean not to mention the fact that Jean's powers have to travel from her to Storm as well while Storm's attacks start right on Jean. Hence, if you were to put Jean up against an advasary like Flash or Superman who can travel faster than the speed of thought, Jean loses badly as she's hit before she can think. Storm wins.
Originally posted by Rutog98
In regards to Storm vs. Jean, Storm wins. Jean's powers being instanteous is a hyperbole. She still has to work within the relm of the speed of thought. I read in the issue where Moira died where Xavier's powers were called instanteous because it worked at the speed of thought. That said, that means you have to include concentration to bring the power online and to bear. Storm attacks faster than Jean not to mention the fact that Jean's powers have to travel from her to Storm as well while Storm's attacks start right on Jean. Hence, if you were to put Jean up against an advasary like Flash or Superman who can travel faster than the speed of thought, Jean loses badly as she's hit before she can think. Storm wins.
Quintuple post!
And with Rutog's latest post?
Ignorance: 1. Common sense: 0.
Congrats!
Originally posted by Rutog98
This is silly! lol. Even in the comics Magneto has stated that Storm could beat him if she did not hold back. She has demonstrated that kind of power time and again in other stories.
Two - zero, now.
Looks like common sense is really taking a beating down there.
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Originally posted by Rutog98
In regards to Storm vs. Jean, Storm wins. Jean's powers being instanteous is a hyperbole. She still has to work within the relm of the speed of thought. I read in the issue where Moira died where Xavier's powers were called instanteous because it worked at the speed of thought. That said, that means you have to include concentration to bring the power online and to bear. Storm attacks faster than Jean not to mention the fact that Jean's powers have to travel from her to Storm as well while Storm's attacks start right on Jean. Hence, if you were to put Jean up against an advasary like Flash or Superman who can travel faster than the speed of thought, Jean loses badly as she's hit before she can think.
I agree in the last line. But Storm works on the speed of thought as well. She thinks it, then the weather changes, then she gets offensive. Jean thinks, and it happens. Thinking (brain powers) ARE her power. While both operate on the speed of thought, the use and formation of said powers are at different speeds, with Jean's being faster 😬
How can you think Storm's powers are faster than thought if she herself operates at the speed of thought? 😕