Jean dies or double K.O. Noone has yet to prove otherwise
Magneto goes down too. Storm has harnessed FAR more pwer than he(galactic core)
Storm is also possibly an omega level mutant.
Storm is a great character in that she is written with ALOT of power and hinted at having alot of power although she is written down and shown with vulnerabnilities which is condusive to character DEVELOPEMENT.
Given all the powers she has harnessed--harnessing the power of the galactic core, channeling a strom through her body, altering her perception, pressure domes, pressure feilds(pressure so strong that hydrogen becomes liquid metal), TP resistance, effecting the wheather on a global scale, using "space weather", munipulating the energies and elements on other planets, etc. She's harnessed and used more power than Mags or Jean.
Given all her power, she would stand a great chance at WINING.
You can't exclude any of her possibilies when in a fight.
I mean the women can just readily tap into any elemental energy and harness it's power. The only thing that stops her is the strength in her body and her level of concentration.(I'm sure it's better now.)
😆 @ peoeple relegating her powers to bio-lightning and a breeze.
To control the weather you have to mentally control powers that are inconcievable both molecularly and on a subatomic level.
Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
From Uncanny #386:Storm admits that she has limitations (despite the ardor of her many, many fans), and Jeans picks up a distress signal during a hurricane:
Same issue, Storm is unable to affect the Storm:
Note this issue was written by Claremont.So now, the question is this: All the times that the text states that Storm is the greatest or she's a goddess or the elements must obey her command--is it really true, or just hyperbole?
Also note that Jean mentions that the distress call is from someone they know, yet she never met Lee: she was at the bottom of Jamaica Bay when Scott was with Lee. Even through this weak connection, she's able to discern what is happening, where is it, and a connection to the X-Men, all pretty quickly. And if we're using Claremont as a benchmark for certain characters...
I still don't think you understand how her powers work completly. For example: yes storm can create a hurricane with ease, but turning it off would cause a strain on herself and damage her. Her powers do not work like magneto's and that's the reason it's so difficult to understand and match their powers.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
And every villian states that they are superior to their adversaries s...doesn't make it true...
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
And also the wind thing...Marvel Official Handbook 2004 says her winds have reached 300mph. Not 3000mph.
I wasen't debating with that
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
She calmed it like she did...in Hidden Years in that Beast told her what do do...Shamans storm(Which he created with a pinch of magical dust) taxed her powers...she didn't create either one though...granted she was younger then....The other two scans occur when she's older though....the point is only to show that she has limits...
Ok i was agreeing that she haves her limits, but her limits are not as small as it seems or she woulden't have been able to survive the galactic core. Her power to stop a storm is not like thor's magically, she haves to become one with the storm and shape it manually to stop it, she even admits this when she stops the powerful storm she created
As i said creating the storm is a peace of cake, stopping it is hell to pay.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
It's a good feat...but isn't Angels statement just to add hyperbole?
No from the looks of the scan that was one nasty storm.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I actually think that Storm has the POTENTIAL to be more powerful then Magneto, after all, both Xavier and Magneto have said that she is omega-level...but she is not on the level to beat Magneto right now.
I Agree, There is my point of this debate right there
Originally posted by The Weather God
[B]That doesn't mean that in every case, you have no proof of that whatsoeverNo from the looks of the scan that was one nasty storm.
So you're saying Storm is an actual goddess then? Or can become an actual goddess? 😕
On these forums...comments like that are taken with a grain of salt...until proven otherwise..but yes it was a nasty storm.
I wasen't debating with that
Cool....
Ok i was agreeing that she haves her limits, but her limits are not as small as it seems or she woulden't have been able to survive the galactic core. Her power to stop a storm is not like thor's magically, she haves to become one with the storm and shape it manually to stop it, she even admits this when she stops the powerful storm she created
As i said creating the storm is a peace of cake, stopping it is hell to pay.
Then we agree...she has limits(Even in the Earths atmosphere) and her power is limited to meteorological phenomena depending on the atmosphere she's in(i.e. Magnetos Energy Storm)...that's the only point I wanted to get across...
I Agree, There is my point of this debate right there
You're a Storm fan so you should know this...which issue(If there is one) does Xavier and Magneto call Storm an Omega Level Mutant...I don't seem to recall anything other then Black Panther #21 which was "Possible Omega" by the O.N.E Sentinels.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
So you're saying Storm is an actual goddess then? Or can become an actual goddess? 😕On these forums...comments like that are taken with a grain of salt...until proven otherwise..but yes it was a nasty storm.
Not saying that she was an actual goddess or not, just saying that she's called herself a goddess more than once
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Then we agree...she has limits(Even in the Earths atmosphere) and her power is limited to meteorological phenomena depending on the atmosphere she's in(i.e. Magnetos Energy Storm)...that's the only point I wanted to get across...
I don't get part of that but i do agree that she haves extream limits when trying to stop a massive storm.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
You're a Storm fan so you should know this...which issue(If there is one) does Xavier and Magneto call Storm an Omega Level Mutant...I don't seem to recall anything other then Black Panther #21 which was "Possible Omega" by the O.N.E Sentinels.
I really wasen't talking about that part of the post, but the fact that storm is or potentially more powerful then magneto. His powers are just sufficient enough to kill people easy, like the way he beat phoenix .
Originally posted by The Weather God
[B]Not saying that she was an actual goddess or not, just saying that she's called herself a goddess more than onceI don't get part of that but i do agree that she haves extream limits when trying to stop a massive storm.
Cool that she has..
I really wasen't talking about that part of the post, but the fact that storm is or potentially more powerful then magneto. His powers are just sufficient enough to kill people easy, like the way he beat phoenix .
I just wanted to know if you knew the issue number...because funny enough I've heard the same story involving Xavier and Magneto... from another user 2 years ago...but without the Omega part...
Do not try and use the fact that the official handbook states that Storm's max winds are 300 mph as grounds to refute Storm's feat. It does not take into account all of Storm's power stunts and thus is not definitive. For instance, lifting a skyscraper (which is more than thousands of tons of rocks) requires winds much stronger. It also does not take into account her extreme pressure stunts (the pressure dome, total vacuums and jovian pressure field). Flying a distance over 2000 miles in minutes is also something way beyond the 300 mph limit. She flies at the speed of the winds she generates.
The reason I kept harping on the jovian pressure field thing is whenever Storm plays with her winds, she plays with pressure. The greater the extreme in pressure fields, the greater the wind. Mars, whose atmosphere is not so far removed from the Earth's which is why people talk about colonizing it, can generate hurricane winds over 1000 mph. Imagine what somebody like Storm can generate then considering the huge pressure stunts she has pulled. This would explain some of the feats that she has accomplished.
You try to place limits on the winds Storm used against Magneto in Uncanny 150. You cannot do this. Her winds put a tremendous strain on his power. In another issue, it was stated her winds can level mountains. This is in character for somebody who can strain Magneto's powers like that. Its no hyperbole. The pressure thing and Sienna Blaze thing all adds to the list. You state that her winds were much weaker than 3000 mph because it would have done much more damage to the surrounding area, right? Doesn't work. Storm has demonstrated time and again extreme fine-tuned control over her powers. For instance, she has summoned hurricane winds to blow every trace of debris off large buildings yet left the building completely untouched by the winds. When she created that pressure dome, that should have also created a massive vacuum and had an extreme effect. Nothing happened. Her control is that profound. There are dozens of instances where she has done this (and a few where this control was ignored).
You bring up issue 383. Guess what? That issue has no credence here. Storm has dispersed continent and hemisphere-sized storms. All you did was show that Storm has been written at various power levels. Duh! All powerful characters on teams have been. This is also true of Sersi and Thor and a bunch of others. It does not help your case. While Storm does have limits, those limits go up and down according to the story. AT her best, she can beat Magneto.
Dispersing a storm is more difficult than creating one. Check out Uncanny 151 which explains it. Essentially, the sum of the forces that come together to make the storm is far lesser than the output of those forces when they have combined. Also, in Black Panther, Storm created the storm that stretched from one end of Africa to the other. I don't recall the issue. It came out over the summer though.
Galactus, Phoenix, Thor instances do not work against Storm here. First off, after Phoenix did the M'kraan crystal thing, in an interview, Claremont said that the plans were to bring Phoenix down to Xavier or Storm level powers. He said, however, over the course of writing and creative thinking, things got out of control and we ended up with Dark Phoenix Saga. Guess what? In the issue where she battled Magneto, the level of power she was written at rivalled Xavier. She was not a cosmic premadona. Magneto is limited to the resources of the planet. There are not sufficient resources for him to battle somebody like Phoenix. I already went into the Galactus thing. You blow it out of proportion. Galactus' blast did very little damage to the area. This is a guy who gave a fraction of his power to a herald. With that mere fraction, the herald was able to devour a star. Please do not state that Magneto can withstand Galactus. That's a joke. Thor obviously was not written with planet destroying powers in that issue. He had standard class 100 strength as most characters have. Storm's winds are far beyond standard class 10o.
BTW, Storm can manipulate EM fields and pull electricity out of EM fields. Now, when an electrical and magnetic field combines, the electrical field strengths the magnetic. Magneto's primary power is magnetism. He bridges over into electricity, but he is no Electro or Blitzkrieg in his control over electricity. We have already seen a severely weakened Storm able to challenge a fully powered Magneto's control over electricity. Heck, Blitzkrieg imprisoned STorm in a cage made up of electricity. Storm announced to him that she was Mistress of the Elements and dispersed his electrical creations with a thought. She could weaken Magneto's force-field by robbing it of electricity. She could probably wrest control of the entire field from him. Here is what we do know, her winds taxes him greatly. One major advantage Storm has in a fight with Magneto is she can create her weather based attacks and they can keep going even if she is knocked unconscious or killed. (I am by no means stating that Magneto is going to be able to accomplish this.) That means that she can create a powerful wind attack against him and then ignore it. He would have to be constantly straining to resist it which means constantly using his power for that. This frees up Storm to try and wrest control of his EM fields from him and leaves MAgneto with very little concentration to spare to try and resist her.
In Annual issue 3, the 1994 Annual, Storm creates an EM field around herself an Shinobi Shaw. She is pulling electricity out of it and playing with it. She tells him that he can kill her if he wants, but she is the only thing keeping him alive from electrocution within her EM field. She is proving that she is willing to die for her cause, but Shinobi is not as committed to his cause as she. Of course, he doesn't do it.
In Magneto War, the final issue of it, Storm is shown controlling the EM energies in Magneto's energy tower as she is directing it towards Joseph.
In her limited series that came out in the 90's, she pulls electricity from a planetary EM field.
Now I have to go finish some work. I cannot log back on here today..🙁
Originally posted by Rutog98
[B]Do not try and use the fact that the official handbook states that Storm's max winds are 300 mph as grounds to refute Storm's feat. It does not take into account all of Storm's power stunts and thus is not definitive. For instance, lifting a skyscraper (which is more than thousands of tons of rocks) requires winds much stronger. It also does not take into account her extreme pressure stunts (the pressure dome, total vacuums and jovian pressure field). Flying a distance over 2000 miles in minutes is also something way beyond the 300 mph limit. She flies at the speed of the winds she generates.
This much concerns me...the handbook is written in 2004 of course it takes her stunts into account it even mentions some of her more prestigious feats. Handbook or your educated guess?
That last bit of your post is correct she flies at the speeds of the wind she creates which according to the Handbook is 300mph..(It actually says this)
BTW Are you talking about the Sky Scraper in the X-Men/Teen Titans Crossover that's not canon.
Which issue is the comic where she flies over 2000 miles in minutes?
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
This much concerns me...the handbook is written in 2004 of course it takes her stunts into account it even mentions some of her more prestigious feats. Handbook or your educated guess?That last bit of your post is correct she flies at the speeds of the wind she creates which according to the Handbook is 300mph..(It actually says this)
BTW Are you talking about the Sky Scraper in the X-Men/Teen Titans Crossover that's not canon.
Which issue is the comic where she flies over 2000 miles in minutes?
The Handbook does not take into account all of her stunts then. In these character battles, you cannot look at handbooks and have that definitive. You have to go by what they have accomplished in stories as the handbooks are far from complete. For instance, this was the first handbook that finally made mention of Storm commanding the energies of stars (its in her bio part). Yet, she pulled this stunt prior to the publication of the original handbook and it went unmentioned in there.
The skyscraper is canon. Thousands of tons of rocks was written in the Teen Titan thing. The skyscraper is a more impressive stunt. Also, CC wrote the Teen Titan thing with the thousands of tons of rocks. It gives us insight into where he sees Storm's power levels. Again, this will change according to the stories as Storm is more powerful than the x-villains at her best. She cannot always be written this way.
BTW, it was Hidden Years issue 7 where Storm stopped the hemisphere-sized hurricane. This was a two part story.
Originally posted by The Weather God
I still don't think you understand how her powers work completly. For example: yes storm can create a hurricane with ease, but turning it off would cause a strain on herself and damage her. Her powers do not work like magneto's and that's the reason it's so difficult to understand and match their powers.That doesn't mean that in every case, you have no proof of that whatsoever
I wasen't debating with that
Ok i was agreeing that she haves her limits, but her limits are not as small as it seems or she woulden't have been able to survive the galactic core. Her power to stop a storm is not like thor's magically, she haves to become one with the storm and shape it manually to stop it, she even admits this when she stops the powerful storm she created
As i said creating the storm is a peace of cake, stopping it is hell to pay.No from the looks of the scan that was one nasty storm.
I Agree, There is my point of this debate right there
And what makes you so sure that you understand her powers better than anyone else? What determines that? Whether they agree with you?
For the record, I'm a huge Storm fan. She's a bad momma, no doubt. I think perhaps YOU have a fundamental misunderstanding of her powers, not to mention her personality.
All of these feats are fine and dandy to post, but one has to ask oneself: Is she willing to do all, any or most of these things to defeat an opponent? The answer is no, because Storm is a protector of life. She won't warp the weather patterns of the earth to her own ends needlessly. Take a gander at the latest Savage Land arc. Rachel shows Storm what she was doing (while she was trying to free herself), and Storm immediately powers down: "Goddess, what have I done".
Take a gander at this from the rules section:
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise.
So for all the vaunted power that she wields, it's highly unlikely that Storm would employ most of the techniques being tossed about, simply because it's not in her personality.
Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
And what makes you so sure that you understand her powers better than anyone else? What determines that? Whether they agree with you?For the record, I'm a huge Storm fan. She's a bad momma, no doubt. I think perhaps YOU have a fundamental misunderstanding of her powers, not to mention her personality.
All of these feats are fine and dandy to post, but one has to ask oneself: Is she willing to do all, any or most of these things to defeat an opponent? The answer is no, because Storm is a protector of life. She won't warp the weather patterns of the earth to her own ends needlessly. Take a gander at the latest Savage Land arc. Rachel shows Storm what she was doing (while she was trying to free herself), and Storm immediately powers down: "Goddess, what have I done".
Take a gander at this from the rules section:
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise.
So for all the vaunted power that she wields, it's highly unlikely that Storm would employ most of the techniques being tossed about, simply because it's not in her personality.
And you simply believe that jean grey would tear storm in two and snap her neck????? Don't get started with me about storm won't kill, she's ripped marrow's heart out. I don't see jean grey doing all that was mentioned to storm neither so that is far from my point in this thread. The point of this fight is who would win if they both went all out, of course none of them would kill each other in a real comic book storyline. So the next time you want to take a glance at the rules, remember that this isen't a comic book fight.
Now as i said i know full well how storm's power works, this is the reason i am providing the proof. My argument was not if storm would devastate the planet but if she Could devastate it in which she does have the power to do so. Magneto and Storm's power do not work the same, when you provided a scan of storm not being able to stop a hurricane or storm that was not putting up any proof that magneto was more powerful then storm simply because magneto doesn't control the weather and he doesn't have to worry about magnetism storms that he could put out or anything of that matter. Storm can create a massive hurricane without getting weak but putting it away can kill her, it's just a complicated thing to understand and comparing that type of power with magneto's is pretty difficult.
Regardless of whether you consider handbooks "definitive," Marvel considers them canon, so they are fair game, whereas most crossovers are not. If you want to use the crossover with the Titans, then the other camp certainly can use the fact that both Superman and Flash were wailing away on Jean's TK shield and it didn't fall.
You're right--everyone's limits go up and down. So you have to take the good feats as well as the bad for ALL characters, not just the characters you like or dislike.
In X-Factor, Jean blew off Arishem’s hand. Does she exhibit that level of power everyday? Of course not, but it happened. In Power Pack, she stopped a good sized chunk of the Empire State Building-in mid-air-from falling on Manhattan. Once again, she doesn’t display that level of power all the time (mostly because it isn’t called for), but it happened.
The fact of the matter is you can’t prove that Storm can get through Jean’s shields with lightning or anything else. You can’t prove that Storm’s powers work faster than Jean’s, especially when thought and execution are one for TPs/TKs. You can’t prove that Jean can’t turn Storm’s mind off or rip her heart out through her insidey parts. It’s already been proven that large amounts of psi energy affect Storm’s powers. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean that it’s not true.
And depending on the nature of the battlefield, Storm’s powers could be rendered essentially useless. Remember the invisible plane that Forge designed to travel to Asteroid M? Storm could only take it so far because she didn’t have enough atmosphere to work with. Jean took it the rest of the way once it got too high for Storm to do anything with.
You can’t sit here and use uber feats for one character and not use them for another. Perhaps Storm’s powers can make it difficult for psis to utilize their powers at their maximum effectiveness on occasions, but it’s also been proven that large amounts of psi energy affect Storm’s powers. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean that it’s not true. And that’s what it seems like a lot of this comes down to. Storm can do this at this time because she’s uber, but this didn’t happen because she was written down is NOT going to fly in every situation. And Storm certainly isn’t the only character that happens to.
Bring facts about what exactly Storm’s going to do to Jean to take her out of this fight. As I said about 30 pages or so ago, there isn’t much that Storm can dish out that Jean can’t take, especially when Jean’s using a multi-front attack.
Originally posted by The Weather God
And you simply believe that jean grey would tear storm in two and snap her neck????? Don't get started with me about storm won't kill, she's ripped marrow's heart out. I don't see jean grey doing all that was mentioned to storm neither so that is far from my point in this thread. The point of this fight is who would win if they both went all out, of course none of them would kill each other in a real comic book storyline. So the next time you want to take a glance at the rules, remember that this isen't a comic book fight.Now as i said i know full well how storm's power works, this is the reason i am providing the proof. My argument was not if storm would devastate the planet but if she [B]Could
devastate it in which she does have the power to do so. Magneto and Storm's power do not work the same, when you provided a scan of storm not being able to stop a hurricane or storm that was not putting up any proof that magneto was more powerful then storm simply because magneto doesn't control the weather and he doesn't have to worry about magnetism storms that he could put out or anything of that matter. Storm can create a massive hurricane without getting weak but putting it away can kill her, it's just a complicated thing to understand and comparing that type of power with magneto's is pretty difficult. [/B]
She's turned people's minds off in battle before, stopped people's hearts, rendered dozens of people catatonic and left them that way, put Emma and Mastermind in asylums, so it's quite possible. Remember that Dark Phoenix (and essentially Madelyne Pryor as well) is but another facet of Jean Grey's personality.
And I didn't post a scan about whether Magneto was stronger than Storm. I'm not as concerned about arguing that point as others are, because for me it's clear who the winner would be in that fight: I am firmly convinced that virtually no one below herald can take out a prime form Magneto.
My point was that Storm can't do everything that her fans seem to want her to do. And tons of comic book evidence is on my side: Storm doesn't destroy nature for her own ends. She nurtures it. She's said countless times that she must work with the earth's natural patterns. I don't see her warping patterns for miles around or summoning humongous hurricanes to destroy one individual in combat. That's simply not her way.
Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
She's turned people's minds off in battle before, stopped people's hearts, rendered dozens of people catatonic and left them that way, put Emma and Mastermind in asylums, so it's quite possible. Remember that Dark Phoenix (and essentially Madelyne Pryor as well) is but another facet of Jean Grey's personality.And I didn't post a scan about whether Magneto was stronger than Storm. I'm not as concerned about arguing that point as others are, because for me it's clear who the winner would be in that fight: I am firmly convinced that virtually no one below herald can take out a prime form Magneto.
My point was that Storm can't do everything that her fans seem to want her to do. And tons of comic book evidence is on my side: Storm doesn't destroy nature for her own ends. She nurtures it. She's said countless times that she must work with the earth's natural patterns. I don't see her warping patterns for miles around or summoning humongous hurricanes to destroy one individual in combat. That's simply not her way.
Ah but phoenix is not jean grey and therefor we all know that she would never kill storm in a battle. But if you want to go there about storm not using nature for bad and destruction then tell that to this extreamly pissed storm in this issue
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Storm even haves some of magneto's power and much more, and my argument was never that storm could defeat magneto but that storm was more powerful then him. Magneto may be able to kill some cosmic beings but that in no way puts him over them, it only makes his power more sufficient to kill people.
Like i said if we look back and see that storm ripped marrow heart out then we would see that storm would kill if she had to. if storm had to she would kill which is something you totally left out. 🙄
Originally posted by Rutog98
The Handbook does not take into account all of her stunts then. In these character battles, you cannot look at handbooks and have that definitive. You have to go by what they have accomplished in stories as the handbooks are far from complete. For instance, this was the first handbook that finally made mention of Storm commanding the energies of stars (its in her bio part). Yet, she pulled this stunt prior to the publication of the original handbook and it went unmentioned in there.The skyscraper is canon. Thousands of tons of rocks was written in the Teen Titan thing. The skyscraper is a more impressive stunt. Also, CC wrote the Teen Titan thing with the thousands of tons of rocks. It gives us insight into where he sees Storm's power levels. Again, this will change according to the stories as Storm is more powerful than the x-villains at her best. She cannot always be written this way.
BTW, it was Hidden Years issue 7 where Storm stopped the hemisphere-sized hurricane. This was a two part story.
I can't find the 2000 mile thing in any of the issues...the whole event takes place in Africa for both issues barring the end which shows the X-Men going home after 56hours.
As for the Handbook thing...If I can ever find this feat I seriously doubt they mention the speed of Storms winds...and if it is stated in a vague way then it would be equavilent to the miscalculations the writers made in HoM decimation...the figures they give don't make sense...the Handbook clearly states the speeds of her winds...I don't believe they've ever stated that any higher then about 300mph in a comic.
As for the Teen Titans thing....check the rules about company crossovers...in debates.
Originally posted by Rutog98She provided structural support to a building that doesn't look sufficiently large to be deemed a skyscraper. This is the Daily Bugle building iirc. It's a skyscraper:
The skyscraper is canon. Thousands of tons of rocks was written in the Teen Titan thing. The skyscraper is a more impressive stunt.
Oh look, now does that mean Spider-Man beats Storm? And Magneto too obviously.
Originally posted by Rutog98Non-canon speculation about a non-canon comic.
Also, CC wrote the Teen Titan thing with the thousands of tons of rocks. It gives us insight into where he sees Storm's power levels.
Originally posted by Rutog98Storm vs Magneto in controlling EM? Storm rides the short bus.
BTW, Storm can manipulate EM fields and pull electricity out of EM fields. Now, when an electrical and magnetic field combines, the electrical field strengths the magnetic. Magneto's primary power is magnetism. He bridges over into electricity, but he is no Electro or Blitzkrieg in his control over electricity. We have already seen a severely weakened Storm able to challenge a fully powered Magneto's control over electricity. Heck, Blitzkrieg imprisoned STorm in a cage made up of electricity. Storm announced to him that she was Mistress of the Elements and dispersed his electrical creations with a thought. She could weaken Magneto's force-field by robbing it of electricity. She could probably wrest control of the entire field from him. Here is what we do know, her winds taxes him greatly. One major advantage Storm has in a fight with Magneto is she can create her weather based attacks and they can keep going even if she is knocked unconscious or killed. (I am by no means stating that Magneto is going to be able to accomplish this.) That means that she can create a powerful wind attack against him and then ignore it. He would have to be constantly straining to resist it which means constantly using his power for that. This frees up Storm to try and wrest control of his EM fields from him and leaves MAgneto with very little concentration to spare to try and resist her.
Originally posted by Rutog98She threatens to electrocute him. That is all.
In Annual issue 3, the 1994 Annual, Storm creates an EM field around herself an Shinobi Shaw. She is pulling electricity out of it and playing with it. She tells him that he can kill her if he wants, but she is the only thing keeping him alive from electrocution within her EM field. She is proving that she is willing to die for her cause, but Shinobi is not as committed to his cause as she. Of course, he doesn't do it.