Cosmic Flame
Senior Member
Your comprehension seems to lack seeing that this topic haves nothing to do with phoenix. If these characters were fighting in character then both of them will hold back seeing as they both look at eachother as sisters and not as enemies. Jean grey is not fighting an enemy from the outside that she doesn't really know and are not freinds with. Storm is not just some women she is fighting against, she is her sister and one of her best friends so bringing this side of friendship into this argument will not do any good because both of these women are best freinds. The phoenix was the one attacking the x-men as was the rogue storm in the comic issue pointed out. This is completly pointless to argue about seeing that bringing both women into this fight with their emotions would only cause a stalemate.
Of course it has to do with Phoenix. Whether you believe the original story (and the most recent retcon) that Jean Grey and Phoenix are one and the same, or the first retcon-that the PF used Jean Grey as a template-doesn’t really matter. Jean has admitted that she is responsible for what happened during the Dark Phoenix Saga, because it was HER PERSONALITY.
As I said, I’m not talking about feats of Phoenix, because those are irrelevant in this fight. I’m talking about personalities, and what happened with Phoenix is a result of Jean Grey’s personality. It’s stated by several different sources in several different title. Accept and move on.
Why you keep mentioning people holding back because they know each other IS beyond my comprehension. That was never a point in my argument. I’ve been addressing personality and its effect on the way these combatants would use their powers, no more no less. Now if you want to carry on about them being sisters and what not, that’s your business, but don’t try to connect me to an argument or a position that I did not state or make.
No you are bringing in the emotional side of storm in this argument and i was bringing in jean's emotional side as well. You are trying to make it seem as tho storm would hold back in the fight because of jean, not comprehending the simple fact that jean grey would hold back just as much as storm if you brought they're emotional side in this argument. My point was that storm doesn't need to kill to defeat an opponent, this is what the writers have come up with in order to keep storm's word that she would never kill again. The scan you are talking about was
I NEVER said that Storm would hold back because of Jean. This is what I said, since you apparently didn’t read it the first time:
All of these feats are fine and dandy to post, but one has to ask oneself: Is she willing to do all, any or most of these things to defeat an opponent? The answer is no, because Storm is a protector of life. She won't warp the weather patterns of the earth to her own ends needlessly. Take a gander at the latest Savage Land arc. Rachel shows Storm what she was doing (while she was trying to free herself), and Storm immediately powers down: "Goddess, what have I done".
NO WHERE do I mention that she would hold back because of Jean. Read what I said. I wasn’t bringing in any aspect of their relationship: you did. I wasn’t concerned about that, because I think it’s a non-factor in this fight. What IS a huge factor is whether Storm would decimate a city just because she’s trying to save herself. The answer’s an unqualified no, and there’s years and dozens, if not hundreds, of canon issues to support this position.
