Jean Grey vs. Storm

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Umm..in the previous scan they state that she's trying to escape hence the electric storm. You can see the bad weather around her the field extends from the storm. They said she put a field around her. What more do you want?

The field is outside around where she is at and on the other scan they are clearly standind in the bad weather your discribing, meaning they are standing inside the field.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak

Not fast enough though...she gets cut off from her powers.

if storm thinks of a storm there is no cutting off because it's already been done on her part, this was the reason she was still able to stike emma because she had already thought of a lightning strike before emma could get in her mind and stop it from coming.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
She has to manipulate weather patterns to create the electric storm. And the electric storm has to be on the magnitude of the one in UXM and X-treme otherwise it won't do anything.

if storm get's one lightning bolt down then jean grey's focus is cut.

Originally posted by The Weather God
[B]The field is outside around where she is at and on the other scan they are clearly standind in the bad weather your discribing, meaning they are standing inside the field.

So you agree with me then...they're in the field.

You're arguing with a panel....it says the field is around her...it shows the bad weather around her.

f storm thinks of a storm there is no cutting off because it's already been done on her part, this was the reason she was still able to stike emma because she had already thought of a lightning strike before emma could get in her mind and stop it from coming.

Storm has to manipulate weather patterns to create a Storm.

No...as soon as they landed...Storm started to create a lightning bolt while Emma was talking.

She summoned one lightning bolt as a opposed to a huge Storm in UXM and X-treme.

Originally posted by The Weather God

if storm get's one lightning bolt down then jean grey's focus is cut.

Again...there is a lag..she's not going to get it down because she has to psionically direct her lightning to it's target.

http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page036hh5.jpg
Storm can direct the path of certain atmospheric effects such as bolts of lightning...with her hands.

Storms focus is cut at stage one.

And I realize I'm repeating myself...and it's becoming quite pointless...I've said everything I've said..there's nothing more to say...the lag is why Storm loses.

Finally for the last time

Thought + Execution in Unison vs Thought + Execution.
During thought Storms powers are cut off...
That's all there is to it.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
So you agree with me then...they're in the field.

You're arguing with a panel....it says the field is around her...it shows the bad weather around her.

There would be no meaning for the field if your standing on the inside.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Storm has to manipulate weather patterns to create a Storm.

No...as soon as they landed...Storm started to create a lightning bolt while Emma was talking.

She summoned one lightning bolt as a opposed to a huge Storm in UXM and X-treme.

Originally posted by The Weather God
There would be no meaning for the field if your standing on the inside.

Okay that was going to be my last post...but I see where you misinformed.

There's a big difference between a Field and a Shield.

Being in a field has a meaning....if you did basic physics you would know this.

That's not what i'm talking about tho.

Emma was talking and doing something to storm at the same time, and then the lightning bolt came down and struke emma in the mouth. [/B]

You're talking about Behaviour Modification..though...deeper probing something Storms able to resist something that doesn't cut her off from her powers.

A Psi-fry cut her off from her powers...and she fell from the sky...Legion and Emma cut her off from her powers via subconscious brain functions and Legion froze her in place with his telepathy.

BTW Storm had all that time from when they landed to create a lighting bolt. (I even showed you that scan before Emma is struck)

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Again...there is a lag..she's not going to get it down because she has to psionically direct her lightning to it's target.

http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page036hh5.jpg
Storm can direct the path of certain atmospheric effects such as bolts of lightning...with her hands.

Storms focus is cut at stage one.

And I realize I'm repeating myself...and it's becoming quite pointless...I've said everything I've said..there's nothing more to say...the lag is why Storm loses.

Finally for the last time

Thought + Execution in Unison vs Thought + Execution.
During thought Storms powers are cut off...
That's all there is to it.

And for the last time i've already agreed that storm's power is slower, Not that much slower tho

My argument was not about if jean could strike first but how fast after would storm's attack strike after jean's attack, because her attack is still coming in behind because she has already made the thought for this to happen, what if storm just gets mad on the start of the match and that goes on to manipulate the weather paturns. if storm creates a storm and you kill her will the storm stop instantly or or keep going, i believe the storm will keep going until it stops natually.

Originally posted by The Weather God
And for the last time i've already agreed that storm's power is slower, Not that much slower tho

My argument was not about if jean could strike first but how fast after would storm's attack strike after jean's attack, because her attack is still coming in behind because she has already made the thought for this to happen, what if storm just gets mad on the start of the match and that goes on to manipulate the weather paturns. if storm creates a storm and you kill her will the storm stop instantly or or keep going, i believe the storm will keep going until it stops natually.

It doesn't matter because Storms lightning has to be directed to it's target psionically.(See the bio above.) So Jeans not going to be hit by lightning.

The match is over once Storm is killed...so whether the Storm continues doesn't make a difference because it'll eventually naturally stop.
Storm would be cut off from her powers the moment Jean starts thinking. So a proper storm won't even be able to form.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Okay that was going to be my last post...but I see where you misinformed.

There's a big difference between a Field and a Shield.

Being in a field has a meaning....if you did basic physics you would know this.

The field was still stronger on the outside no matter which way you put it and therefor they needed to be closer in order to get through it or rachel would have gotten the same result when she tride again on the inside.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak

You're talking about Behaviour Modification..though...deeper probing something Storms able to resist something that doesn't cut her off from her powers.

A Psi-fry cut her off from her powers...and she fell from the sky...Legion and Emma cut her off from her powers via subconscious brain functions and Legion froze her in place with his telepathy.

BTW Storm had all that time from when they landed to create a lighting bolt. (I even showed you that scan before Emma is struck)

yes i know that this happened but storm wasen't calling an attack before emma psy fried her, she diden't call her lightning until emma tride to erase her mind.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
It doesn't matter because Storms lightning has to be directed to it's target psionically.(See the bio above.) So Jeans not going to be hit by lightning.

The match is over once Storm is killed...so whether the Storm continues doesn't make a difference because it'll eventually naturally stop.
Storm would be cut off from her powers the moment Jean starts thinking. So a proper storm won't even be able to form.

How long do you have to be mind fried before you die, storm's wasen't instantly because she called a thunderstorm after that, and why was emma on the floor with storm on that issue after they crashed into the ground? I also wasen't refering to after storm was killed but once she starts the storm it will still go during the mind fry.

The field was still stronger on the outside no matter which way you put it and therefor they needed to be closer in order to get through it or rachel would have gotten the same result when she tride again on the inside.

No it's not...the field is always stronger on the inside...the field doesn't work on the outside.

If you do physics you would know that.

The field was extending everywhere...including around Storm...

yes i know that this happened but storm wasen't calling an attack before emma psy fried her, she diden't call her lightning until emma tride to erase her mind. [/B]

You're not reading what I'm saying.

1.) That particular telepathic attack didn't cut Storm off from her powers.

A Psi-fry...did.

2.) Storm is resistant to deeper probing..so she could resist the behaviour modification

3.) Remember that scan with the children in their dorms.

How long do you have to be mind fried before you die, storm's wasen't instantly because she called a thunderstorm after that, and why was emma on the floor with storm on that issue after they crashed into the ground?

If she's cut from her powers...then it doesn't make a difference...it depends whether the telepath wants to kill you.

Storm was cut from her powers though...and the mind fry only lasted a moment...Legion cut Storm from her powers aswell and this wasn't a mind fry.

Emma got right up...they both fell remember.

BTW Storm and Jean start thinking..the moment this happens Storms powers are cut.

Now what kind of storm could she summon then?

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
No it's not...the field is always stronger on the inside...the field doesn't work on the outside.

If you do physics you would know that.

The field was extending everywhere...including around Storm...

Originally posted by ExodusCloak

You're not reading what I'm saying.

1.) That particular telepathic attack didn't cut Storm off from her powers.

A Psi-fry...did.

2.) Storm is resistant to deeper probing..so she could resist the behaviour modification

3.) I showed you a scan which shows a bolt of lightning in the sky before Emma is struck.

My point was not about the telepathic attack, my point was that storm didn't get a chance to call any power because she was suprized by emma with the psy fry, so it was not like they were using they're powers at the same time.

Originally posted by The Weather God
[B]The field was more powerful on the outside because that's where the rain and powerful lightning was

The storm was everywhere...and I'm not even going to bother arguing this point with you because it stated that Storm put the field around herself.

And it's an established fact that the field only works when you're in it.

My point was not about the telepathic attack, my point was that storm didn't get a chance to call any power because she was suprized by emma with the psy fry, so it was not like they were using they're powers at the same time.

Huh? So what was the point you were trying to make then? We already established which works faster.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak

If she's cut from her powers...then it doesn't make a difference...it depends whether the telepath wants to kill you.

Storm was cut from her powers though...and the mind fry only lasted a moment...Legion cut Storm from her powers aswell and this wasn't a mind fry.

Emma got right up...they both fell remember.

BTW Storm and Jean start thinking..the moment this happens Storms powers are cut.

Now what kind of storm could she summon then?

So jean can just cut your power off before the fight can even begin, prove that it's instantly. She'd have to go in and target the x gene to cut storm's power off in which she doesn't have the time to do. We have no proof that a psy fry happens instantly because i remember someone mentioning that it doesn't happen instantly, and all the scans i've seen shows that they have time to do it.

Originally posted by The Weather God
So jean can just cut your power off before the fight can even begin, prove that it's instantly. She'd have to go in and target the x gene to cut storm's power off in which she doesn't have the time to do. We have no proof that a psy fry happens instantly because i remember someone mentioning that it doesn't happen instantly, and all the scans i've seen shows that they have time to do it.

No it's cutting a certain part of the brain off...that's when someone shuts down your subconscious reflexes.

A psi-fry can be two things...as there are two versions...one is where you brain is fried literally..so you cannot think.
The other is where your brain synapses missfire due to a subconscious command given by a telepath.

I showed you a scan where it says thought and execution as one.

Someone stated it without any proof to back up their opinion.

And if this is your argument...where it's already been established that telepathy works as thougth + execution...then there's no point in debating anymore....cause I'm just repeating what everyone has for the last 42 pages.

Oh well...

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
The storm was everywhere...and I'm not even going to bother arguing this point with you because it stated that Storm put the field around herself.

A field they stepped in, in order to get her. Once they show them in the room they never say anything about it being in between them, which is the reason why they needed to get closer

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
And it's an established fact that the field only works when you're in it.

It's also established that they needed to be closer in order to communicate with storm.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak

Huh? So what was the point you were trying to make then? We already established which works faster.

Storm gets mad and the patterns go with that. 😄

Originally posted by The Weather God
[B]A field they stepped in, in order to get her. Once they show them in the room they never say anything about it being in between them, which is the reason why they needed to get closer

It's also established that they needed to be closer in order to communicate with storm.

Firstly the field is around her...and she's already summoned this massive storm..telepathy worked in it...and again it doesn't make a difference...that's the last I'll say about this...

Storm gets mad and the patterns go with that. 😄

Storm still has to think...mad or not her emotions are thoughts 😕

But like I said...this is going no where...so I'm going to go do some constructive work...cya..

Had to go to the supermarket 😮

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Firstly the field is around her...and she's already summoned this massive storm..telepathy worked in it...and again it doesn't make a difference...that's the last I'll say about this...

I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree then.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak

Storm still has to think...mad or not her emotions are thoughts 😕

It's like trying to punch your way through a brick wall...

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
It's like trying to punch your way through a brick wall...

Sorry but i fail to believe that telepaths get the advantage all the time with speedblitz.❌ It's like the hal jorden vs x-men thread, he can pretty much destroy the team easly but because there are telepaths there they get to speedblitz him even tho he haves the power to shield himself from it, that is just unacceptable and not fair.