Jean Grey vs. Storm

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
[B]The Professor was trying to communicate with her....via probing(Trying to read her thoughts)....hence the reason why other psychic attacks have worked...Storm was using her powers when she was flying in the air...and Emma knocked her out of the sky.

It says suddenly...and then ...they try and fight back..and then they're floored because they can't fight back against a Psi-Force Bolt...and in X-treme Emma knocks Storm out of the sky with a Mind Fry....
[Those two scans are the only ones from the X-treme fight....

That's strange that storm's been against all these telepaths and have never manage to get her brain fried fully.

The Psychic attack is Mind Control(The Skrull talks about Wills in that very scan)...Mind Control is a battle of Wills....a Psi-Force Bolt is a Mind Fry....

BTW And Storm was still floored in HoF's scan...just like Banshee

She manipulates weather patterns...which in turn manipulates the Atmosphere....do you have an Issue number...at least?

Thought is faster then Thought and action....and your example is flawed Storm thinks and then snap her fingers...all Jean needs to do is think.

Don't forget that jean haves to think and focus her spot before she can use it. Storm practically haves to think then blast with no focus.

Originally posted by The Weather God
[B]That's strange that storm's been against all these telepaths and have never manage to get her brain fried fully.

Emma has....

She's floored but did you even stop to think that three powerful telepaths are forcing to enter her mind, she haves to take some type of effect for such powerful people forcing to enter her mind. Jean grey however is nowhere near that powerful in telepathy and i assure you storm woulden't be floored in a match like that against her from telepathy.

The same could be said about Banshee then...and again it's Mind Control a battle of Wills not...a Mind Fry....

I only have the scan not the issue number sorry.

Well could you upload the scan onto this site and then post the link please...

http://imageshack.us/

Don't forget that jean haves to think and focus her spot before she can use it. Storm practically haves to think then blast with no focus.

The focus and spot part is part of the thought stage....and Storm has to focus and spot too....plus manually manipulate weather patterns....plus wait for her attack to occur...

They're dropped in an Arena KMC battle....they know they're fighting each other...

Sight is enough focus for both of them....which is part of the thought stage...

Jean
Thinks...Her Action is Thought....
a.) Subconscious visual sight of opponent
1.)Intitiate and Choose Attack
....and attack occurs similtaneously

Storm
Thinks:
a.) Subconscious visual sight of opponent
1.) Intitiate and Choose Attack
2.) Manually manipulate weather patterns
And Action follows
3.) Attack conjured...and connects

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Emma has....

The focus and spot part is part of the thought stage....and Storm has to focus and spot too....plus manually manipulate weather patterns....plus wait for her attack to occur...

They're dropped in an Arena KMC battle....they know they're fighting each other...

Sight is enough focus for both of them....which is part of the thought stage...

Jean
Thinks...Her Action is Thought....
a.) Subconscious visual sight of opponent
1.)Intitiate and Choose Attack
....and attack occurs similtaneously

Storm
Thinks:
a.) Subconscious visual sight of opponent
1.) Intitiate and Choose Attack
2.) Manually manipulate weather patterns
And Action follows
3.) Attack conjured...and connects

If storm know's their fightning then she could call the clouds up before the match and then let loose with complete fury. no questions asked that a lightning bolt would be on jean before jean could even shelid and focus on storm's mind at the same time.

Originally posted by The Weather God
[B]Not fully...

Yes she has...when she knocked Storm, Colossus and Wolverine unconscious 😕 ...with her Psi-Force bolt..

I diden't know banshee was a telepath, but anyway, if the result came back painful to the proffessor then i'm sure jean would get the same treatment, and no storm wasen't floored then.

Jeans not going to probe Storm....Professor Xavier probed Storm then..she's going to mind fry just like Emma. And the Banshee/Storm floored thing was referring to HoF's scan...

This forum won't let me post links at all for some reason

Use the site I gave you....upload your scan....then copy the link from your scan and paste it here....or type the link out here....

f storm know's their fightning then she could call the clouds up before the match and then let loose with complete fury. no questions asked that a lightning bolt would be on jean before jean could even shelid and focus on storm's mind at the same time.

Umm....forum rules...no action may be taken before the fight begins....Storm has to think to conjure up a lightning bolt....Jean takes her down..before Storm can do that...

And here's some more scans of Storm vs Telepathy...this time she tries to resist Probing...but everytime she does it makes things more painful for herself...

http://img40.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=05296_Uncanny_X_Men_1980_03_131_07_438lo.jpg
http://img109.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=05601_Uncanny_X_Men_1980_03_131_10_428lo.jpg

Well I'm off to bed...

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Yes she has...when she knocked Storm, Colossus and Wolverine unconscious 😕 ...with her Psi-Force bolt..

Jeans not going to probe Storm....Professor Xavier probed Storm then..she's going to mind fry just like Emma. And the Banshee/Storm floored thing was referring to HoF's scan...

Use the site I gave you....upload your scan....then copy the link from your scan and paste it here....or type the link out here....

Umm....forum rules...no action may be taken before the fight begins....Storm has to think to conjure up a lightning bolt....Jean takes her down..before Storm can do that...

And here's some more scans of Storm vs Telepathy...this time she tries to resist Probing...but everytime she does it makes things more painful for herself...

Well I'm off to bed...

😑 what was the use of her telepathic resistence when any telepath could just blast her with psy blast if the probing doesen't work. that is completly insane. Well i guess she does get owned by jean in that departent.😱 Also the reason storm wasen't able to resist then was because her powers weren't active, either that or they forgot about storm powerful telepathic resistence then. Anyway where is HOF he was suppose to post a scan about storm telepathic resistence.. This sucks 🙁

Oh yeah this forum say's i can't post links until i'm known more.

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Jean has been shown on panel to turn someone's brain off instantaneously. She's also been shown to turn off people's powers instantly. Once again, TP doesn't only affect the mind or the consciousness--it affects the actual brain as well. Doesn't matter what type of resistance Storm has to protect her consciousness if someone is manipulating the brain itself.

And her resistance doesn't make much of a difference to someone of Jean's caliber if she wants to get in. She's gotten past Juggernaut and Magneto's helmets, and she's dragged being IMMUNE to TP to the astral plane. The list goes on.

How many times do I have to say that what she doesn't want to get through her shields doesn't get through. She's managed to work nonstop for 72 hours with no sleep, contain an explosion (while staying in the air), and still fly dozens of people to safety. She's blocked everything from electricity to radiation with her shields. It's doubtful that lightnings getting through.

Don't forget that Jean is quite adept at multitasking. She can use TP and TK simultaneously on multiple targets. There's nothing to say that she won't turn Storm's powers off while she rips her heart out and makes her swallow it while pelting her with boulders.

And the main reason that Storm's not had her brain "fried" is because no one has their brain fried--well not heroes anyway. It doesn't mean that it can't happen. It just doesn't.

step aside.
if this were bloodlusted Gambit vs Jean ALL A YA would fess' Gambit ftw, yet regular Gambit jobbs steadily to telepaths.
but bloodlusted New son/Gambit erased all living material on his Earth. including the Psychics [that worlds XAVIER, FRANKLIN RICHARDS JEAN GREY EMMA FROST yadda yadda yadda ]

In the Twelfe storyline we see an alternate timeline where storm has embraced her powers and lives as an energy/liquid being and does not age.

During Chris's initiall run on Uncanny there's an episode where Doom captures Storm and the xmen using magic he turns Storm into Stone [his marrige proposal denied] Oh, and Doom threatens The X men

Storm enraged morphs from a stone state to an energy being, of pure elecricity/electromagnetic energy Doom who is ringside becomes the Main event. heh.

Jeans Psi Bolts will either be deflected back at her, scrambled or converted and consumed as energy [brinwaves can be deflected by someone smart & strong enough "cough" Magneto "cough cough" War, Sinister, Von Doom"cough" "cough"]

Jean doesn't even have to be in the same area to attack storm at all!!! telepaths zone in on their opponents regardless of limited sight and distance. That's why they always win in most battles because their powers are unpredictable. You don't see anything coming or hitting you until you're on the floor sputtering incoherently.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak

And here's some more scans of Storm vs Telepathy...this time she tries to resist Probing...but everytime she does it makes things more painful for herself...

http://img40.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=05296_Uncanny_X_Men_1980_03_131_07_438lo.jpg
http://img109.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=05601_Uncanny_X_Men_1980_03_131_10_428lo.jpg

Well I'm off to bed...

Why don't we use something a little more current. 😉

Originally posted by The Weather God
😑 what was the use of her telepathic resistence when any telepath could just blast her with psy blast if the probing doesen't work. that is completly insane. Well i guess she does get owned by jean in that departent.😱

It's called jobbing to keep the comic interesting...hence the reason why they don't do it all the time...plus usually the Good guys aren't out for blood....

Also the reason storm wasen't able to resist then was because her powers weren't active, either that or they forgot about storm powerful telepathic resistence then. Anyway where is HOF he was suppose to post a scan about storm telepathic resistence.. This sucks 🙁

Really was it that? Or did Emma fudge up her mind so that she was helpless...fact is...even probing....can be turned around on Storm....

And again...Storm has only shown resistance to Probing and Mind Control...these psychic attacks can be fought back against....A Psi Bolt or a Mind Shut Down is completely different....and can't be resisted....Wolverine is also another good example of this phenomena..he can resist probing but not....a mind shutdown...or a psi bolt..

A Psi bolt downs her...

Oh yeah this forum say's i can't post links until i'm known more.

I even have to delete the links in your post to post my message.

Type it out manually without the [url] tags....leave a space....between the parts of the link....

Didn't see this...

Originally posted by HandOfFate
Why don't we use something a little more current. 😉

The most current fight was....the one where Storm was knocked out of the sky by a short mind fry....

A mind fry still downs her...

Originally posted by don't shiv
step aside.
if this were bloodlusted Gambit vs Jean ALL A YA would fess' Gambit ftw, yet regular Gambit jobbs steadily to telepaths.
but bloodlusted New son/Gambit erased all living material on his Earth. including the Psychics [that worlds XAVIER, FRANKLIN RICHARDS JEAN GREY EMMA FROST yadda yadda yadda

In the Twelfe storyline we see an alternate timeline where storm has embraced her powers and lives as an energy/liquid being and does not age.

These events occur in an alternate reality can't be used to debate 616 characters....

During Chris's initiall run on Uncanny there's an episode where Doom captures Storm and the xmen using magic he turns Storm into Stone [his marrige proposal denied] Oh, and Doom threatens The X men

Storm enraged morphs from a stone state to an energy being, of pure elecricity/electromagnetic energy Doom who is ringside becomes the Main event. heh.

Storm goes down before she can even summon up an attack.(Manipulate Weather patterns)

Jeans Psi Bolts will either be deflected back at her, scrambled or converted and consumed as energy [brinwaves can be deflected by someone smart & strong enough "cough" Magneto "cough cough" War, Sinister, Von Doom"cough" "cough"

Magneto(See respect thread) and Sinister are Telepaths...

Doom has Tech and Magic....

Storm is not = to Mags...Sinister or Doom...

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Didn't see this...

The most current fight was....the one where Storm was knocked out of the sky by a short mind fry....

A mind fry still downs her...

The mind fry did the same thing all the other mental bolts have ever done since Storm encounter Emma in 81.

It shocks Storm for few seconds and then she adjusted to the attack and hands the telepath their ass.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak

These events occur in an alternate reality can't be used to debate 616 characters....

From what I see, Marvel is of the opinion that the energy version is Storm final mutantion.

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Storm

Originally posted by HandOfFate
The mind fry did the same thing all the other mental bolts have ever done since Storm encounter Emma in 81.

It shocks Storm for few seconds and then she adjusted to the attack and hands the telepath their ass.

http://img375.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xtremexmen22p17hgwellsod3.jpg

That's not what I'm seeing...

Mind Fry...."Arrrgh"

Falls out of the sky..

Changes to Diamond Form
Piledrive...into snow....

So nope....

BTW Mental Bolts? I think you mean Probing...or Mind Control...

From what I see, Marvel is of the opinion that the energy version is Storm final mutantion.

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Storm

You do know that people can edit that....right? I can edit that too...

Fact of the matter is...this hasn't happened for 616 Storm...AOA is an alternate reality can't be used in 616 discussions....
Till then it's just speculation...

um...exodus cloak, emma did try to fry storms mind in that pic. just read what she says. she tried and was unsuccessful, and storm still won the fight.

Originally posted by stormfront13
um...exodus cloak, emma did try to fry storms mind in that pic. just read what she says. she tried and was unsuccessful, and storm still won the fight.

You mean the one I just posted....that's what I said she did fry Storm in that pic for like a second..and she WAS successful hence the reason why Storm fell out of the sky...Emma then STOPPED Frying Storms brain...and switched to Diamond Form....then Pile Drived Storm into the snow...

BTW Re-read it Storm didn't win that fight.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
http://img375.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xtremexmen22p17hgwellsod3.jpg

That's not what I'm seeing...

Mind Fry...."Arrrgh"

Falls out of the sky..

Changes to Diamond Form
Piledrive...into snow....

So nope....

BTW Mental Bolts? I think you mean Probing...or Mind Control...

You know it sad that Emma tried two different attacks but still couldn’t defeat Storm.

Storm Vs Emma

LOL, Exdous this Storm Vs Emma debate all over again 😄

Originally posted by HandOfFate
You know it said that Emma tried two different attacks but still couldn’t defeat Storm.

[b]Storm Vs Emma

[/B]

What's sad is this Storm humping that comes and goes every 6 months...

1st Attack Mind Fry..which downed Storm
2nd Attack...Behaviour Modification....which Emma took her time to get up and do....umm...modifying Storms behaviour thoughts...nope...different kind of attack....sorry try again.

A Mind Fry and A Behaviour Modification are as similar as Storms Lightning and Wind....they're two different types of attacks...what's so hard to understand about that.

Again you're missing the scan...where there's no victor to that fight..

Originally posted by ExodusCloak

Again you're missing the scan...where there's no victor to that fight..

Who gives up first? 😉

Originally posted by HandOfFate
Who gives up first? 😉

You tell me...Storm ceases her attack first though...empty threats yet again...

Originally posted by Metalmanx
So, does this all take place before or after Jean telekinetically crushes her heart? Or shuts down all brain functions? Or telekinetically rips her apart instantly?

😆 💃