Jean Grey vs. Storm

Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
1. That remains to be seen. No one has ever affected anything inside her shield, IIRC, not even Magneto.

2. If an exhausted Jean Grey can contain explosions and remain aloft, if she can support Asteroid M with her TK, if her TK can knock someone from Calais to the Pyrenees, I think she can handle what Storm throws at her.

3. There are multiple on panel instances of Jean using TK and TP simultaneously, so you claiming that she can't either suggest that you haven't read enough of the character, or you just don't care what the facts are.

Funny because you still haven't said anything about storm's lightning attack (capible of affecting the silver surfer,) being blocked by jean. Lightning is an entirely different case in this matter and it has not be proven that jean can block lightning, one of the most powerful enegy's on the planet.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Your argument lacks any and all substance. I'm sure every day is nice when you're delusional.

I pitty you for your insults 🙄

Have a nice day 😛

It wasn't an insult. It was an observation.

Jean Grey can crush Storm's heart with TK or mindf'uck her before Storm can do anything of relevance.

Mental speedblitz.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
It wasn't an insult. It was an observation.

Jean Grey can crush Storm's heart with TK or mindf'uck her before Storm can do anything of relevance.

Mental speedblitz.

Obviously 🙄

Lightning speedblitz

This has all be explained in detail already. All objective opinion favours Jean Grey. Contrarily the only people who argue fervently in favor of Storm against rationalism and logic are the same people who always do, of which you are now a part.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
This has all be explained in detail already. All objective opinion favours Jean Grey. Contrarily the only people who argue fervently in favor of Storm against rationalism and logic are the same people who always do, of which you are now a part.

Obvioulsy people that know more about storm. 🙄

Originally posted by The Weather God
Obvioulsy people that know more about storm. 🙄

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Or, you know, are sufficiently biased.

Or people that have actually seen storm defeat and resist more telepaths then have defeated her.

Anyway we obviously haven't any say so in anything because we are the stormfans and you are just people that have observed a few thing. 🙄 Anyway this argument is becoming tiresome say whatever you may but your replies will now be ignored, simply because your post mean nothing to me. 😎

My, my we are an arrogant fanboy noob. I really don't think someone purporting that Jean Grey can only ever use one of her powers to do one thing at a single time can tell anyone about not knowing enough about characters.

And fascinating in lieu of any new counter argument, all those brought up prior having been easily refuted, you intend to ignore all the reasons that Jean Grey wins. Bravo.

Originally posted by The Weather God
Umm no the argument was if storm can call her powers just as quick as jean. Jean would be in a slight delay trying to call up a shield to block storm lightning and trying to target one of her organs at the same time. I guarantee you jean will not be able to hold her sheild up and block lightning at the same time while tageting an organ. The next time i would advise you to keep the I'mastormfan crap out of it because it haves nothing to do with this argument. You need to learn more about storm because you obvisously diden't know anything about storm's electric sheild that could scramble jean's telepathic attack. Have a nice day because my argument is done with you.

..."Have a nice day because my argument is done with you"?

Really? You're going there already?

Sigh. Sure doesn't take em long to go sour anymore, does it?

You can guarantee all you want. You're wrong. Take offense if you want, but it's the truth. Jean, if she wanted, could:

1. Telepathically shut down Storm's brain
2. Telekinetically crush her heart and brain
3. Telekinetically construct a shield that Storm won't be penetrating
4. And telekinetically drink a cup of coffee

All at the same time. When you have Jean's power, there's not much that can stop you. And Storm is definitely not that small minority. 😬

Originally posted by The Weather God
Or people that have actually seen storm defeat and resist more telepaths then have defeated her.

Anyway we obviously haven't any say so in anything because we are the stormfans and you are just people that have observed a few thing. 🙄 Anyway this argument is becoming tiresome say whatever you may but your replies will now be ignored, simply because your post mean nothing to me. 😎

You can't counter his arguments, so you ignore him?

Clearly, your debating skills are top-notch indeed. 👆

EXODUS

Query: can brainwave emmissions/psi bolts travelling through an electric field retain integrity & potency

Query: how do Ironman, Dr Doom, Shield & Reed Richards Psi Scramblers operate?

[Ironman's scramblers held up to ONSLAUGHT.
onslaught>>>>>>>>>>>>Jean]

Originally posted by stormfront13
no, exoduscloak re-read the scan again. emma states that she needs to switch to human form to use her TP, the back to diamond form after she fries her brain. emma attempts to fry her brain and fails

This is getting ridiculous....read it again...

She just described what she just did...she fried Storms brain for an instant....then switched to Diamond Form...then she did a Behaviour Modification as STATED on panel...ask someone to read it with you if you're confused about the events in which they occur....maybe an older sibling...or something.

http://img375.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xtremexmen22p17hgwellsod3.jpg

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Originally posted by HandOfFate
Wait...according to some people on this message board, an psi-bolt is an instant win but now you're telling me that it actually takes time to do damage? Hmmm...okay, so it's not an instant win attack?

Stop twisting what people are saying....a Brain Shut Down equals an instant win....a mind fry...is literally frying someones brain...it's like being shocked by electricity....a prolonged attack will fry you. And the best part is...it screws with your mental functions while the fry takes place...meaning the victim...is helpless...hence the reason why Storm went down....twice...

Also, why would she turn into her diamond form if her telepathy could have ended this fight in one move?

The same reason why Flash comics don't last one panel...to keep the comic interesting.(Plus it's Storms book)

Actually the question was asked if she could stop Storm and she pretty much reply with “no”.

Doesn't matter....Storm will be downed before she could use her powers.

Yes it does.🙂

When? I'm not talking telepathic communication, that works on a surface level.

Nope...it doesn't....you have to actually read the persons thoughts when communicating...

Did it take her out? Sorry the whole limited series was a total blur because the artwork was so bad. So if you finished the book, more power to you.🙂

The intention was to make it ring....and grab everyones attention...not to take her out.

What psi-bolt?

The scan with Colossus, Wolvey and Storm...

Communicate not attack, plus I'm guessing a lot of this took place while using Cerebro/Cerebra.

Communicate...see above....as for the attack...in that Psi-Bolt scan...Emma takes Storm out from a distance...not to mention entering her mind in X4 and making it ring....

Storm has show absolutely no resistance to having her mind shut down or fried...

Here...it's close to the bottom of the bio

Months later, the eternal mutant Apocalypse made a bid for power by gathering together the Twelve, a group of mutants prophesied to usher in a golden age for their kind that counted Storm amongst their number. Apocalypse was defeated, but not before the ultimate extent of Storm's mutant power was revealed in an alternate future wherein she had evolved into a wholly elemental being.

I looked at it..and from the spelling of the entry....it doesn't look like it's been checked....in any event it states it even states it's an alternate reality...so it can't be used...

How was it an empty threat? Depending on when this fight takes place, Emma could have bad memories of getting shattered by Beak/Esme's diamond bullet.

Firstly no poles lying around in this fight....

And two Empty threat...since Storm didn't do anything...it' trash talk....perfectly smooth diamond having pressure points? Yeah right.

How was it inconclusive? Storm was still standing while Emma was pinned to a wall, wondering if her diamond form could be shattered twice in one year.

IMHO, we see who has the upper hand in that encounter.

Because there is no victor...Emma doesn't surrender...she's not knocked out...and Storm doesn't show an ounce of proof that she could do what she says....hence the empty threat...the fight is inconclusive because they decide to put aside their differences and work together.

Originally posted by don't shiv
[B]EXODUS

Query: can brainwave emmissions/psi bolts travelling through an electric field retain integrity & potency

Query: how do Ironman, Dr Doom, Shield & Reed Richards Psi Scramblers operate?

[Ironman's scramblers held up to ONSLAUGHT.
onslaught>>>>>>>>>>>>Jean]

Mind Fry's work by using the ambient psionic energy in the atmosphere against the victim...so yes...since telepathy has gotten passed Magneto while using his powers I'll say yes...

Don't know how the scramblers operate....but Emma gotten passed them before....in Deadly Genesis #2

And she got passed IronMans defenses in Civil War #3(His suit is built into him)

An instant was all it took to knock her ass out of the sky.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
An instant was all it took to knock her ass out of the sky.

Exactly...I notice this trend on KMC where Storm gets humped every 6 months...

Telepaths get no respect....

BTW Exodus' TK screwed with Storms powers...aswell....

Mind Rape for the win....

Then Tifa comes along and kicks her ass too. 😊

name calling is cool,

Exodus I call you Noble. [for the Noble gases ]

X I call you Dreamer, [Nice Fantasy about Tifa ]

Originally posted by Metalmanx
My God. This is sad. 🙁

Jean destroys Storm so bad it's not even funny.

"But what do you know? You OBVIOUSLY hate Storm or know NOTHING about her!"

Yea. That's right. I haaaaaaaate Storm. Sooo much. 🙄

I actually rather like Storm, and I know a lot about her and her abilities.

I also know a lot about Jean's abilities. Namely her TK and her TP. Either of which is MORE than a match at obliterating Storm. 😬

i think this has basically just turned into another emma VS storm debate. obviously jean defeats storm.

exodus...read the scan again. tell me what it says. read it very slowly. emma said she was going to fry storms mind again, which obviously wasn't very successful considering how the fight turned out.