Jean Grey vs. Storm

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
You mean the one I just posted....that's what I said she did fry Storm in that pic for like a second..and she WAS successful hence the reason why Storm fell out of the sky...Emma then STOPPED Frying Storms brain...and switched to Diamond Form....then Pile Drived Storm into the snow...

BTW Re-read it Storm didn't win that fight.

no, emma states that....

1) switch to human form so i can use telepathy

2)fry her brain

3)switch to diamond form to protect from the fall

she said she was going to fry storms brain, yet was unsuccessful considering storm got right back up and owned emma

Originally posted by stormfront13
no, emma states that....

1) switch to human form so i can use telepathy

2)fry her brain

3)switch to diamond form to protect from the fall

she said she was going to fry storms brain, yet was unsuccessful considering storm got right back up and owned emma

"Switch to Human Form so I can use telepathy..."

Look at the first Panel

http://img375.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xtremexmen22p17hgwellsod3.jpg

This comment follows that comment "Then back to Diamond for the Fall".....

She already Fried Storms brain...

Then in this next scan...Emma takes her time to get up....she even speaks...thens she...gets close to Storm and tries to modify her behaviour....

Here Emma even states it's a "Telepathic Behaviour Modification" so I don't now where you're getting your information from?

http://img130.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stormvsemma5kc.jpg

I suggest you re-read it...

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
She already Fried Storms brain...

Which didn't seem all that impressive, seeing that Storm took her out seconds later with a lightning/wind combo. Also, if Emma was a powerful as you make her out to be, then Storm should be on the ground unconscious.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Then in this next scan...Emma takes her time to get up....she even speaks...thens she...gets close to Storm and tries to modify her behaviour.... [/B]

Oddly enough Emma has never tried to mentally manipulate Storm without being extremely close to her.

AAMOF, Rachel basically said that when Storm’s powers are activated she couldn’t easily enter her mind without getting closer. .

Makes you wonder???

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
You do know that people can edit that....right? I can edit that too...

Fact of the matter is...this hasn't happened for 616 Storm...AOA is an alternate reality can't be used in 616 discussions....
Till then it's just speculation... [/B]

IIRC, unlike Wikipedia, this is something that actually has to go through the officials of Marvel. Also seeing that it’s actually upon Marvel’s site it holds more weight then your opinion. 😛

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
You tell me...Storm ceases her attack first though...empty threats yet again...

Storm ceases her attack because she had won. Emma was out of options. END OF FIGHT. 😄

Originally posted by HandOfFate
[B]Which didn't seem all that impressive, seeing that Storm took her out seconds later with a lightning/wind combo. Also, if Emma was a powerful as you make her out to be, then Storm should be on the ground unconscious.

Didn't seem all that impressive...because the Mind Fry only lasted an an instant...because she changed back into Diamond Form...still enough to floor Storm though...so I take it back it is quite impressive.

Oddly enough Emma has never tried to mentally manipulate Storm without being extremely close to her.

AAMOF, Rachel basically said that when Storm’s powers are activated she couldn’t easily enter her mind without getting closer. .

Enter her mind...not fry it....

Makes you wonder???

Actually it doesn't

Emma has entered her mind plenty of times...she even made it ring in X-4...plus that Psi Force Bolt counts too..both from moderate distances.

Emma has also communicated with Storm in Africa...

Jean communicated with Storm from halfway around the world...so did Xavier..

IIRC, unlike Wikipedia, this is something that actually has to go through the officials of Marvel. Also seeing that it’s actually upon Marvel’s site it holds more weight then your opinion. 😛

Then the officials must have not got to it yet...in any event it has no grounds on KMC forums..since it's just speculation...and it's an alternate reality....BTW Can you point me to this passage you're referring to...just for reference sake.

Storm ceases her attack because she had won. Emma was out of options. END OF FIGHT. 😄

Really...seems to me like Storm was the one out of options...hence the empty threat...and ceasing her attack first....

Anyway....you asked who surrendered first...the answer is no one...Storm ceased her attack first...Emma states she's not going to surrender.

They decided to put aside their differences and work together.

The fight was inconclusive...

no, exoduscloak re-read the scan again. emma states that she needs to switch to human form to use her TP, the back to diamond form after she fries her brain. emma attempts to fry her brain and fails

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Didn't seem all that impressive...because the Mind Fry only lasted an an instant...because she changed back into Diamond Form...still enough to floor Storm though...so I take it back it is quite impressive.

Wait...according to some people on this message board, an psi-bolt is an instant win but now you're telling me that it actually takes time to do damage? Hmmm...okay, so it's not an instant win attack?

Also, why would she turn into her diamond form if her telepathy could have ended this fight in one move?

Originally posted by ExodusCloak Enter her mind...not fry it....

Actually the question was asked if she could stop Storm and she pretty much reply with “no”.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak Actually it doesn't

Yes it does.🙂

Originally posted by ExodusCloak Emma has entered her mind plenty of times...

When? I'm not talking telepathic communication, that works on a surface level.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak she even made it ring in X-4

Did it take her out? Sorry the whole limited series was a total blur because the artwork was so bad. So if you finished the book, more power to you.🙂

Originally posted by ExodusCloak ...plus that Psi Force Bolt counts too..both from moderate distances.

What psi-bolt?

Originally posted by ExodusCloak Emma has also communicated with Storm in Africa...

Jean communicated with Storm from halfway around the world...so did Xavier..

Communicate not attack, plus I'm guessing a lot of this took place while using Cerebro/Cerebra.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak Then the officials must have not got to it yet...in any event it has no grounds on KMC forums..since it's just speculation...and it's an alternate reality....BTW Can you point me to this passage you're referring to...just for reference sake.

Here...it's close to the bottom of the bio

Months later, the eternal mutant Apocalypse made a bid for power by gathering together the Twelve, a group of mutants prophesied to usher in a golden age for their kind that counted Storm amongst their number. Apocalypse was defeated, but not before the ultimate extent of Storm's mutant power was revealed in an alternate future wherein she had evolved into a wholly elemental being.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak Really...seems to me like Storm was the one out of options...hence the empty threat...and ceasing her attack first....[/B]

How was it an empty threat? Depending on when this fight takes place, Emma could have bad memories of getting shattered by Beak/Esme's diamond bullet.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak The fight was inconclusive... [/B]

How was it inconclusive? Storm was still standing while Emma was pinned to a wall, wondering if her diamond form could be shattered twice in one year.

IMHO, we see who has the upper hand in that encounter.

This scan actually proves my point that storm can actually put up electric fields to scramble telepathic attacks. That was the reason the proffessor was having serious trouble trying to get in her head because her powers were active, due to her emotions. Emma Frost caught her off guard on the old scan you provided. In a match verses storm and jean, storm would be ready.

Thanks HOF

STORM FOR THE WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My God. This is sad. 🙁

Jean destroys Storm so bad it's not even funny.

"But what do you know? You OBVIOUSLY hate Storm or know NOTHING about her!"

Yea. That's right. I haaaaaaaate Storm. Sooo much. 🙄

I actually rather like Storm, and I know a lot about her and her abilities.

I also know a lot about Jean's abilities. Namely her TK and her TP. Either of which is MORE than a match at obliterating Storm. 😬

Originally posted by Metalmanx
My God. This is sad. 🙁

Jean destroys Storm so bad it's not even funny.

"But what do you know? You OBVIOUSLY hate Storm or know NOTHING about her!"

Yea. That's right. I haaaaaaaate Storm. Sooo much. 🙄

I actually rather like Storm, and I know a lot about her and her abilities.

I also know a lot about Jean's abilities. Namely her TK and her TP. Either of which is MORE than a match at obliterating Storm. 😬

If it wasen't for this psy bolt debate storm would own jean in so many ways as well.

Originally posted by The Weather God
If it wasen't for this psy bolt debate storm would own jean in so many ways as well.

How? I can't think of ANYWAY that Storm could possibly attack Jean faster than Jean could attack Storm.

TK/TP = Much faster than any of Storm's attacks (even lightning).

Originally posted by Metalmanx
How? I can't think of ANYWAY that Storm could possibly attack Jean faster than Jean could attack Storm.

TK/TP = Much faster than any of Storm's attacks (even lightning).

Not exactly, all it takes is a little electric stunn and jean grey is on the floor. Jean haves to make a choice, sheild, tk or telepathic attack. If she puts up the sheild first that will leave storm open to blast her with full force, if jean chooses her tk attack their pretty much both dead because jean will not be able to sheild herself and focus on a organ at the same time, seeing that lightning will strike super fast once storm's target is set. Tp, storm's electric field activates once she stikes jean with lightning or storm can create an electrical field to scramble jean and stunn her, leaving jean open for an attack.

Originally posted by The Weather God
Not exactly, all it takes is a little electric stunn and jean grey is on the floor. Jean haves to make a choice, sheild, tk or telepathic attack. If she puts up the sheild first that will leave storm open to blast her with full force, if jean chooses her tk attack their pretty much both dead because jean will not be able to sheild herself and focus on a organ at the same time, seeing that lightning will strike super fast once storm's target is set. Tp, storm's electric field activates once she stikes jean with lightning.

1. Nothing gets through Jean's TK shield that she doesn't want to--Nothing.
2. Jean's handed people with TP IMMUNITY, not resistance, their asses.
3. Jean can use TK and TP simultaneously--she's even used her TK on a microscopic level while using TP on multiple people while she was flying.

Please explain how Storm overcomes all of this.

Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
1. Nothing gets through Jean's TK shield that she doesn't want to--Nothing.
2. Jean's handed people with TP IMMUNITY, not resistance, their asses.
3. Jean can use TK and TP simultaneously--she's even used her TK on a microscopic level while using TP on multiple people while she was flying.

Please explain how Storm overcomes all of this.

1.Sorm can control the weather inside her tk shield nuff said

2. storm's attack can easly destroy jean grey's shield,

3. No jean grey cannot bring both at the same time, she will have to think of the sheild as well. 🙄

Originally posted by The Weather God
Not exactly, all it takes is a little electric stunn and jean grey is on the floor. Jean haves to make a choice, sheild, tk or telepathic attack. If she puts up the sheild first that will leave storm open to blast her with full force, if jean chooses her tk attack their pretty much both dead because jean will not be able to sheild herself and focus on a organ at the same time, seeing that lightning will strike super fast once storm's target is set. Tp, storm's electric field activates once she stikes jean with lightning or storm can create an electrical field to scramble jean and stunn her, leaving jean open for an attack.

... 🤨

Since when can Jean only use one of her powers at a time? When was she limited to "Attack" or "Shield"?

Originally posted by The Weather God
1.Sorm can control the weather inside her tk shield nuff said

2. storm's attack can easly destroy jean grey's shield,

3. No jean grey cannot bring both at the same time, she will have to think of the sheild as well. 🙄

1. Not if said shield is skin-tight. Hell, the shield isn't even necessary. Jean can kill her faster than Storm can fire any sort of weather attack.

2. No, not it can't.

3. Yes, Jean can bring both at the same time. Very easily, in fact.

It's obvious that you like Storm, and I assume that you've read a lot of her comics. However, it's also painfully obvious that you know little to nothing about Jean.

I mean no offense, I'm just trying to understand where you're getting your info from.

Jean wins 10/10.

The sacred cow wins. I'm pretty sure I could categorically refute any argument to the contrary. But I don't have to. Being me is enough.

Originally posted by The Weather God
1.Sorm can control the weather inside her tk shield nuff said

2. storm's attack can easly destroy jean grey's shield,

3. No jean grey cannot bring both at the same time, she will have to think of the sheild as well. 🙄

1. That remains to be seen. No one has ever affected anything inside her shield, IIRC, not even Magneto.

2. If an exhausted Jean Grey can contain explosions and remain aloft, if she can support Asteroid M with her TK, if her TK can knock someone from Calais to the Pyrenees, I think she can handle what Storm throws at her.

3. There are multiple on panel instances of Jean using TK and TP simultaneously, so you claiming that she can't either suggest that you haven't read enough of the character, or you just don't care what the facts are.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
1. Not if said shield is skin-tight. Hell, the shield isn't even necessary. Jean can kill her faster than Storm can fire any sort of weather attack.

2. No, not it can't.

3. Yes, Jean can bring both at the same time. Very easily, in fact.

It's obvious that you like Storm, and I assume that you've read a lot of her comics. However, it's also painfully obvious that you know little to nothing about Jean.

I mean no offense, I'm just trying to understand where you're getting your info from.

Jean wins 10/10.

Umm no the argument was if storm can call her powers just as quick as jean. Jean would be in a slight delay trying to call up a shield to block storm lightning and trying to target one of her organs at the same time. I guarantee you jean will not be able to hold her sheild up and block lightning at the same time while tageting an organ. The next time i would advise you to keep the I'mastormfan crap out of it because it haves nothing to do with this argument. You need to learn more about storm because you obvisously diden't know anything about storm's electric sheild that could scramble jean's telepathic attack. Have a nice day because my argument is done with you.

Originally posted by The Weather God
Umm no the argument was if storm can call her powers just as quick as jean. Jean would be in a slight delay trying to call up a shield to block storm lightning and trying to target one of her organs at the same time. I guarantee you jean will not be able to hold her sheild up and block lightning at the same time while tageting an organ. The next time i would advise you to keep the I'mastormfan crap out of it because it haves nothing to do with this argument. You need to learn more about storm because you obvisously diden't know anything about storm's electric sheild that could scramble jean's telepathic attack. Have a nice day because my argument is done with you.