Elizabeth ditching the entire life she's known and running off with Jack WOULD be a fairy tale ending.
A bittersweet, good ending would be Elizabeth loving both men but chosing to be with only one of them...and I strongly suspect that no matter how hot they are together, nor how much of a connection Jack and Elizabeth share, that in the end, she will stay with Will...and I don't think it'd be out of comfort. I think it will be because that's where she'd be happiest.
Originally posted by Surreal_44
Elizabeth ditching the entire life she's known and running off with Jack WOULD be a fairy tale ending.A bittersweet, good ending would be Elizabeth loving both men but chosing to be with only one of them...and I strongly suspect that no matter how hot they are together, nor how much of a connection Jack and Elizabeth share, that in the end, she will stay with Will...and I don't think it'd be out of comfort. I think it will be because that's where she'd be happiest.
well..Terry&Ted said her clothes coming off and dress sinking resembles the fact that she has let go of her old way of life with Will..for good..old way of life I mean here...no meaning Will..but something has changed with her and her way of life.
in the commentary this is.
and..well, to the second part of your post.......*keeps shtum*
the ending is very..WHAT THE ****? kinda thing..as in..its ambiguous..which is what their intent is with that ending apprently..
in other words its:
open to or having several possible meanings or interpretations
Obviously ditching Will wouldn't be a fairy tale. I think your vison of a J/E ending is a bit off. I don't imagine them sailing off together and kissing in the sunset, that's a fairy tale.
I expect T&T to make me cry, die of anger and bring me to my knees before those credits hit the screen. I know that no matter what Liz chooses we will be stunned and breathless, it's not just about love.
It's not just about romance or lust. It's about adventure, about freedom and piracy. The classic triumph of good over evil. That will move us to tears, and that alone. The love is only part of the movie, there is much more at work.
Honesty, courage, curiosity and freedom. That's what Pirates means to me. Not just 'which man does she choose?'
That wouldn't satisfy me, love alone is boring without that added fear and excitment of adventure.
And I believe that Lizzie knows that too. And I BELIEVE that she will choose her adventure, her freedom and her love.
And I believe that is Jack.
Originally posted by Surreal_44
Elizabeth ditching the entire life she's known and running off with Jack WOULD be a fairy tale ending.A bittersweet, good ending would be Elizabeth loving both men but chosing to be with only one of them...and I strongly suspect that no matter how hot they are together, nor how much of a connection Jack and Elizabeth share, that in the end, she will stay with Will...and I don't think it'd be out of comfort. I think it will be because that's where she'd be happiest.
Well, yes and no. I agree that her running off with Jack after all the things that are rumoured to happen in AWE seems slightly escapist...Especially if Will meets his untimely demise.
On the other hand, who says that she has to choose? What if both men decide that they've grown beyond Elizabeth? It's a possibility. I'm not saying that I like it.
Or, who is to say that Elizabeth's two warring personalities won't be united in the film? Surreal is right in that the Port Royal, Will Turner, traditional woman is very much a part of who she is, as much as the pirate aspect of her nature. Like Jack, her self will not be at rest until those aspects find some sort of a balancing act.
but they did promise it would find a sense of closure, at least concerning the love triangle. whether they do a fourth movie or not, they owe it to us to clear that up.
i cant imagine Elizabeth being happiest with Will. Happy, yes... but clearly her marriage to Will was tied in with life in Port Royal, sticking to protocal, wearing a corset, etc.
When the dress sank, the writers have basically said flat out that her committment to marrying Will sank with it. I think that's pretty clear. Not that she doesnt love Will anymore, but the restraints that went along with that relationship are gone. That can't really be argued.
Why would she stay with Will if the connection with Jack were stronger and more consistent with who she is? that wouldn't make any sense.
neither ending will be fairytale anymore. these films arent fairytales. they are action, they are adventure, they are gritty and views of an imperfect world.
but they also arent tragedies and they arent completely true to reality.
She cant have a fairytale with Will anymore. SHe's betrayed his trust, he has forfeited her complete loyalty. If they build a new relationship despite that, the scars will still be there.
If she ends up with Jack, that will mean saying goodbye to her childhood love, as well as coming to terms with the kind of man Jack is. He's been with other women, he's in no way perfect.
Swann&Sparrow, just read your post. awesome. totally. 😄
Well Kate..with the ______ of_____ only making its appearence there and its LACK of it once Jack was pulled out..that ending should signify something..plus the SONG..since when was that tied in with Will Turner?
remember..JACK needs to have closure too...with the end of this trilogy...that certain part of him being dead forever...i DONT buy it..
Well thank you so much. I'm blushing.
I think you're right Kate. It's extremly difficult to patch up a relationship when one person thinks your inlove with another (even though Elizabeth is in love with Jack, she still told Will she wasn't) there is mistrust. And with mistrust there are problems.
If Lizzie were to come out and say everything about her feelings about Jack and Will, there'd be no way she could go back to Will, he'll be hurt. And I also think that if she did confess everything there is no possible way she could be with Will.
He'd be hurt, and so will she. He'd know that he can't offer her anything more than that she doesn't want, and I believe that he has enough decency to see the truth, and hear it too. If Lizzie told him everything, and I mean everything, not just parts of the truth she'll allow him, every waking moment she'd shared with Jack and every single feeling.
If she'd do that, he'd understand how much their relationship fell apart, how much they don't fit.
He'd let her go. He'd let her be happy.
Originally posted by katelovespirate
giggle... poor Will. no song for him as far as I know.I'm quite confident the _______ of _______ is going to make a dramatic re-appearance. 😄
I dont think they even have it appear in the movie until the very end..its only described by a character we dont actually see it till the very end.
Come one LovelyOne. I won't tell anyone, pwease?!
I really gotta know, you're torturing me! It's not very endearing.
You know what I just thought, Lizzie and Jack are almost like Logan and Jean from X-Men.
They're both so beautiful together, Logan's the bad boy and Jean's the respectable woman. But she's with Scott, and he loves her. She knows she loves him too.
Maybe Pirates ends the same way X-Men ends. Lizzie is killed by her one and true love...Jack...
A possibilty, yes...That would explaine the shocking twist. Not that I'm rooting for that, I'd hate that, but it's always something to think of.