Originally posted by Lightsnake
More logical than "They knew everything! They rock!"
Considering the fact that their era was the pinnacle of dark side powers, and that all the sith went to them to become more powerful, it's a lot more logical than "omg its not the PT jeid, or Luke, or SIDIOUS, they MUST Suck".
Originally posted by Lightsnake
I've never once seen you account for an entire force of Ancient Sith stopped by a group of non forc esensitives and four Jedi.These are the elites of all SW how?
I'm glad youre referring to the ancient sith that we all refer to usually, such as Ragnos, Sadow, Kressh, Simus, and Pall. Oh wait..
Which means what exactly? Pall did what except moan and cry in a tomb? Kressh died in a situation when most other elites would never have been caught in....Sadow's done.....created illusions. Incredible, welcome to the Oppo Rancisis club.
Simus is a head in a jar. duplicated by a no name Priestess in Boba Fett: Enemy of the Empire. And as a head, he'd be a genuine WEAKLING who can't block a blaster bolt.
Such a powerful group, I so see them beating people like Mace, Dooku, Kun, Yoda, Revan, Bane., Kas'im,...
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Which means what exactly? Pall did what except moan and cry in a tomb? Kressh died in a situation when most other elites would never have been caught in....Sadow's done.....created illusions. Incredible, welcome to the Oppo Rancisis club.
Simus is a head in a jar. duplicated by a no name Priestess in Boba Fett: Enemy of the Empire. And as a head, he'd be a genuine WEAKLING who can't block a blaster bolt.Such a powerful group, I so see them beating people like Mace, Dooku, Kun, Yoda, Revan, Bane., Kas'im,...
And I rest my case. Come back when you can make a case for any of those defeating the likes of Ragnos..
Originally posted by Escape81Like i said, we cant say anything nor assume
Nice theory. Nothing to support it, but you never know.
Originally posted by Escape81But luke knew he was incredibly powerful, luke himself reads the archives and studies galactic history, and when he does that, he knows about ragnos. And if he knew and studied the symbol of marka ragnos, he must have studied the history of marka ragnos, why? because all of it is recorded in the archives, And when he wanted the academy to stop him when he rises from the dead, it meant he couldnt do it alone
Luke had no idea what power Ragnos possessed. That is why he decided to put all of his efforts into stopping him. He was concerned about the unknown. He had absolutely no idea what Ragnos was capable of.
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Originally posted by Escape81Well why dont we say that ragnos was not in his full power form when he got into tavion? Nothing proved that that was his full power. And by the way, why not say that palpatines spirit got trapped in that floating jedi and got extinguished forever while ragnos survived?
And, pardon me, but wasn't Ragnos's spirit dispelled by an "above average" Jedi Knight, singlehandedly?
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Originally posted by Escape81Pulling stuff out of my ass? All i said that by JA he gets stronger than he was in DE, you call that pulling it out of my ass? no, im using common sense here
No offense, but you're pulling stuff out of your ass here.Jedi Academy is set only a few years after the events of Dark Empire. Considering how DE Luke was unable to defeat Palpatine on his own, there's nothing to state that he could do it as of Jedia Academy.
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luke knew he was incredibly powerful, luke himself reads the archives and studies galactic history, and when he does that, he knows about ragnos. And if he knew and studied the symbol of marka ragnos, he must have studied the history of marka ragnos, why? because all of it is recorded in the archives, And when he wanted the academy to stop him when he rises from the dead, it meant he couldnt do it alone
It is a fact that the Jedi's Archives are incomplete, thanks to Palpatine's destruction of them. He himself says that he doesn't know much about Ragnos. It is possible that Luke identified Ragnos's symbol via what teachings and research he got when he was Palpatine's agent. Nothing is to say he knew anything about Ragnos.
Well why dont we say that ragnos was not in his full power form when he got into tavion? Nothing proved that that was his full power. And by the way, why not say that palpatines spirit got trapped in that floating jedi and got extinguished forever while ragnos survived?
The Force and "the Jedi before [Luke and Brand]" saw to Palpatine's destruction. It wasn't Brand himself.
Pulling stuff out of my ass? All i said that by JA he gets stronger than he was in DE, you call that pulling it out of my ass? no, im using common sense here
No, you said DE Luke > Sidious and JA Luke > Sidious. This isn't the case.
Marka is behind Jacen, Luke, maybe Kyp (LOTF), DE Sidious and Darth Nihilus. I think that's it, Naga Sadow was scared shitless of him and we know Naga is stronger than most people, he wouldn't be that scared of him for no reason, and he wasn't just scared shitless of Ragnos, he was terrified of Ragnos after Ragnos was dead! So one of the most powerful Sith was terrified of a dead man, so he had to be strong.
Originally posted by Escape81If the jedi archives incomplete, then he shouldnt have even studied the ragnos symbol, And prove that he learnt in when he was palpatines agent? Wrong, he said to kyle "i have just done research of that symbol at the temple"
It is a fact that the Jedi's Archives are incomplete, thanks to Palpatine's destruction of them. He himself says that he doesn't know much about Ragnos. It is possible that Luke identified Ragnos's symbol via what teachings and research he got when he was Palpatine's agent. Nothing is to say he knew anything about Ragnos.
Originally posted by Kadesh
If the jedi archives incomplete, then he shouldnt have even studied the ragnos symbol, And prove that he learnt in when he was palpatines agent? Wrong, he said to kyle "i have just [B]done research of that symbol at the temple" [/B]
It's good to know that you obviously dictate what parts are completed in the Archive.