does it matter, from what I have read in the Spectre Respect thread, Spectre can become as strong as he needs to be in order to accomplishe a job, but his level of power is still determind by the Presence so he should always be second to the Presence just like LT is only Second to TOAA ore the power of TOAA.
Originally posted by Utrigita and another version would beat him... why??? (I doesn't know a awfull lot about the Spectre) [
So I say that it's a stalemate if the Spectre is at his prime, otherwise he gets whopped easiley.
Another thing that have bothered me is.
Lucifer Morningstar can't even create matter/energies . The only thing he can do is manipulate it.
Which makes him very, very weak.
And Lucifer is supose to be second only to YHWH.
Originally posted by Astner
Spectre has never preformed any panel feats that equals the prime feats of the Living Tribunal.
Living Tribunal being the stream of energy that goes through the Marvel Omniverse, and holding two Megaverses in the palm of his hand.
The only thing that have come remotely close to that was Spectre when he merged with the Source, then he said that he was one with everything (basicly what Living Tribunal is)So I say that it's a stalemate if the Spectre is at his prime, otherwise he gets whopped easiley.
Another thing that have bothered me is.
. The only thing he can do is manipulate it.
Lucifer Morningstar [B]can't even create matter/energies
Which makes him very, very weak.And Lucifer is supose to be second only to YHWH. [/B]
Originally posted by Astner
Spectre has never preformed any panel feats that equals the prime feats of the Living Tribunal.
Living Tribunal being the stream of energy that goes through the Marvel Omniverse, and holding two Megaverses in the palm of his hand.
The only thing that have come remotely close to that was Spectre when he merged with the Source, then he said that he was one with everything (basicly what Living Tribunal is)
My thoughts too but again doesn't know so much about spectre and his different versions but I take it that the version with the merging with the Source Wall is his strongest incarnation so far???
So I say that it's a stalemate if the Spectre is at his prime, otherwise he gets whopped easiley.[/B]
Like Erik said okay, you both know what you are talking about.
Another thing that have bothered me is.
Lucifer Morningstar can't even create matter/energies . The only thing he can do is manipulate it.
Which makes him very, very weak.And Lucifer is supose to be second only to YHWH. [/B]
Restriction possibly because be did after all use the Power of Michael in a impressive way even though he cannot himself create matter and energy, what is it they say Michael is the .... and Lucifer is the .... wouldn't it possibly have something to do with that???
and another version would beat him... why??? (I doesn't know a awfull lot about the Spectre)
Because it would be stronger. The v2 Spectre is weak compared to his other versions.
My thoughts too but again doesn't know so much about spectre and his different versions but I take it that the version with the merging with the Source Wall is his strongest incarnation so far???
He became God and yes, it is his strongest version.
In this version he contained creation inside of him, a creation that was destroyed and reborn, effectivly the end of everything and rebirth took place inside of him.
So unless Living Tribunal is stronger than God he can't really put any problems to Spectre in this form 😬
Like Erik said okay, you both know what you are talking about.
That guy knowing what he's talking about ? Him ? 😆
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
He became God and yes, it is his strongest version.
In this version he contained creation inside of him, a creation that was destroyed and reborn, effectivly the end of everything and rebirth took place inside of him.
So unless Living Tribunal is stronger than God he can't really put any problems to Spectre in this form 😬
That guy knowing what he's talking about ? Him ? 😆
No he didn't. He became the Source (DC's version of the Holy Spirit) , an aspect of God.
You fail to realize that he only became an aspect of God.
Spectre experiences how it is to be God :
"You seek to reveal the mystery of God very well , you will be shown the nature of God"
Spectre confirming that he became God :
"If this is what it means to be God -- how does God stand it ?!"
Just like the Living Tribunal.
That scan is supposed to prove what ?
And besides, Is Living Tribunal at or above The Presence ? No.
Has the Living Tribunal been shown to be second to somebody ? Yes.
Reported.
Lmao 😆
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Spectre experiences how it is to be God :"You seek to reveal the mystery of God very well , you will be shown the nature of God"
Spectre confirming that he became God :
"If this is what it means to be God -- how does God stand it ?!"
As you know he merged with the Source, and the Source is only an aspect of God--hence he did only became a part of God.
The part he became however is only an aspect of be God, and the Spectre couldn't stand to be just an aspect of "God".
It's stated that he merges with the Source here.
Unless you claim that the Source is the Presence in all his glory.
That scan is supposed to prove what ?
And besides, Is Living Tribunal at or above The Presence ? No.
Has the Living Tribunal been shown to be second to somebody ? Yes
Lmao 😆
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf Nicely done Erik...now watch!
Any minute now someone is going to post a scan from Wildstorm in which The Presence says he isn't all that powerful....thus they'll say LT wins. 🙄
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Because it would be stronger. The v2 Spectre is weak compared to his other versions.
Okay.
He became God and yes, it is his strongest version.In this version he contained creation inside of him, a creation that was destroyed and reborn, effectivly the end of everything and rebirth took place inside of him. [/B]
Well so does LT....
So unless Living Tribunal is stronger than God he can't really put any problems to Spectre in this form 😬[/B]
LT isn't stronger then God but is Spectre stronger then the Presence the supreme being of DC, ore is Spectre just as strong as the Presence wishes the Spectre to be...
That guy knowing what he's talking about ? Him ? 😆 [/B]
Well to me, yes, since my knowlegde of DC is very little if not none existing. I entered this thread to learn more about the Spectre since a Respect thread is one thing debating the Character is a entirely different situation.
