Loki vs Dr Doom

Started by batdude1236 pages

Originally posted by Soujaboy
His apperances are also a lot more limited than Stranges, but when he does appear he cleans house.

Like I said, Loki has Stranges number. Loki has no only defeated Strange on a couple occasions, but he has also killed Strange.

Something Strange has yet to do, so who's to say?

You act as if Strange just gos in demolishing abstracts. He doesn't, and most of the time he requaries massive amounts of outside help to challenge his more powerful foes. When I say outside help I mean that magic artifacts he manages to come by. Like when Strange was only able to challenge King Thor after he was given an artifact by a pantheon of skyfathers to negate the Odin Force.

Don't forget to mention the fact that Strange didn't stalemate the IG under his own power. He had a number of powerful artifacts to back him.

I refer back to "Loki has already once killed Strange" point.

Loki beating Strange is PIS. On an average basis, Strange is way above Loki.

Who's to say? How about all the characters he's managed to take out with prep time? People who are a lot higher than Odin.

He does so on a fairly consistent basis, yes. The artifacts he has in order to beat these characters are his own. He basically has a spell or artifact to negate the effects of anything. I'm not talking about the King Thor incident, but about 90% of the other times he has to take down those types of threats.

Right, he had prep. The majority of Loki's best showings are with some kind of prep. Loki preps for EVERYTHING. Anyway, Loki hasn't done anything even REMOTELY close to doing something like that.

Which is... survey says.... "PIS"

Originally posted by batdude123
By Odin and Surtur. But he really hasn't faced many other people besides Asgardian related characters.
He's fought Strange... 😖hifty:

Also, are these supposed to be bad showings?

Originally posted by batdude123
Do you think that makes his defeats any less embarrassing?
Nope.

Originally posted by batdude123
Based on "average showings," Strange is actually skyfather level. If we go by his best showings, he's low abstract level. If we go by his low showings, he's herald level. You pick.
Doesn't matter, but the way you were going on, it almost made it seem like he was above everyone he has faced, and beat...

Originally posted by batdude123
That I don't know. However, it's not like his average showings have him working to beat these types of characters. That's very much indeed PIS. Written correctly, he'd down Namor with a frickin' wave of his hand.
If these are pis, then why isn't him beating top tier abstracts pis?
If he is a skyfather level, then he is one of the most inconsistent skyfather levels around.

Originally posted by batdude123
Are you saying Loki JOBS to Thor?
Are you saying Strange jobs to Loki. If yes, then I just might be saying the same thing. All I can say is, he has higher showings. But maybe it is just the case that Thor has his hammer on his side.
This sentence is appliable across this entire thread.

Originally posted by batdude123
That's really NO excuse for the calibur of people he's lost to in the past.
So being a lot weaker than you normally are, and only wanting to eat, rather than fight, isn't an excuse?

Originally posted by batdude123
That's not even close to being the majority of his showings though. They're PIS.
Yes it is. If he fights lower people, he doesn't do as well. If he fights abstract like characters, he is basically portrayed as a god.

Originally posted by batdude123
Loki beating Strange is PIS. On an average basis, Strange is way above Loki.

Who's to say? How about all the characters he's managed to take out with prep time? People who are a lot higher than Odin.

He does so on a fairly consistent basis, yes. The artifacts he has in order to beat these characters are his own. He basically has a spell or artifact to negate the effects of anything. I'm not talking about the King Thor incident, but about 90% of the other times he has to take down those types of threats.

Right, he had prep. The majority of Loki's best showings are with some kind of prep. Loki preps for EVERYTHING. Anyway, Loki hasn't done anything even REMOTELY close to doing something like that.

Which is... survey says.... "PIS"

Average showings for Strange aren't as major as you claim. That's why you keep bringing up Stranges glory moments when has massive amounts of outside help for your argument.

With outside help, without it he would be destroyed by Odin. We have seen what happens to Strange when he doesn't have "artifacts" to help him against Odin's power, he ends up either dead or defeated.

So tell me when Strange has fought an abstract without outside help. That mean without the bands of Cyttorak and weapons of that sort.

Loki's prep is still under his own power. He doesn't require artifacts to challenge powerful foes such as Kurse, whom I forgot to mention Loki killed.

Originally posted by bigbran
He's fought Strange... 😖hifty:

Also, are these supposed to be bad showings?

No. All I'm saying is that he doesn't face many other opponents that don't have something to do with Asgard.

Originally posted by bigbran
Doesn't matter, but the way you were going on, it almost made it seem like he was above everyone he has faced, and beat...

He's way above Loki. That's all that really needs to be said about him.

Originally posted by bigbran
If these are pis, then why isn't him beating top tier abstracts pis?
If he is a skyfather level, then he is one of the most inconsistent skyfather levels around.

'Cause he does shit like this ALL the time:

Taking control of Thor's hammer with a spell:

http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strangethor9oa.jpg

Defeating the In-Betweener w/o prep:

http://img202.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ib17wg.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ib22ut.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ib31wr.jpg

Stops time across the planet, then wills time to reverse.

http://img203.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timerever12fl.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timerever22pp.jpg

Not only survives a supernova's change into a blackhole, he takes control over it and corks it.

http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nova4lg.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nova24lv.jpg

After fighting for near 48 hours straight, Strange still has enough power to raise a full sized moon off it's axis and blow it up.

The owning of Galactus.

http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galacko5uf.jpg

Again:

http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galatt1vc.jpg

Defeating Moondragon WITH THE MIND GEM in a telepathic battle:

Oh, and for his so-called poor record against low-level characters...

http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vs10ep.jpg

He owned Namor/Spiderman/Hulk/Black Panther and Black Bolt at the same time.

Owning Shuma:

http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shuma13tc.jpg
http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shuma27no.jpg

etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. 🙄

Originally posted by bigbran
Are you saying Strange jobs to Loki.

HELL yes. His power is so far above Loki's, it shouldn't even be questioned.

Originally posted by bigbran
If yes, then I just might be saying the same thing. All I can say is, he has higher showings. But maybe it is just the case that Thor has his hammer on his side.
This sentence is appliable across this entire thread.

Doesn't change the fact that Dr. Strange is Loki's superior by FAR.

Originally posted by bigbran
So being a lot weaker than you normally are, and only wanting to eat, rather than fight, isn't an excuse?

No, not when you're one of the three essential beings of the universe.

Originally posted by bigbran
Yes it is. If he fights lower people, he doesn't do as well. If he fights abstract like characters, he is basically portrayed as a god.

No, it isn't at all. I can't believe I'm even having this conversation. I'd have thought you'd know better than this.

batdude has won my vote, for what it's worth

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Average showings for Strange aren't as major as you claim. That's why you keep bringing up Stranges glory moments when has massive amounts of outside help for your argument.

With outside help, without it he would be destroyed by Odin. We have seen what happens to Strange when he doesn't have "artifacts" to help him against Odin's power, he ends up either dead or defeated.

So tell me when Strange has fought an abstract without outside help. That mean without the bands of Cyttorak and weapons of that sort.

Loki's prep is still under his own power. He doesn't require artifacts to challenge powerful foes such as Kurse, whom I forgot to mention Loki killed.

What the f*ck are you talking about? I'm really starting to question if I can actually have an intellectual debate with you about characters regarding Asgard. To you, it's Asgard/Thor/Odin>>>> everybody else. Why do I even bother?

His artifacts are his own. He can create spells that can deal with ANY situation. His control over Cytorrak bands require nothing more than a simple spell. Christ, why is this a debate again? For shit's sake, he could just send Loki to another dimension!!! 😂 I feel like taking mother f*ckin' crazy pills here!!

Loki is shit compared to Stephen. END OF STORY. I'm done with this thread. Absolutely rediculous...

Originally posted by masterbruce
batdude has won my vote, for what it's worth
If I wanted your vote, I would say that Spider-Man could beat Galactus...

Originally posted by batdude123
No. All I'm saying is that he doesn't face many other opponents that don't have something to do with Asgard.

He's way above Loki. That's all that really needs to be said about him.

'Cause he does shit like this ALL the time:

Taking control of Thor's hammer with a spell:

http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strangethor9oa.jpg

Defeating the In-Betweener w/o prep:

http://img202.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ib17wg.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ib22ut.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ib31wr.jpg

Stops time across the planet, then wills time to reverse.

http://img203.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timerever12fl.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timerever22pp.jpg

Not only survives a supernova's change into a blackhole, he takes control over it and corks it.

http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nova4lg.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nova24lv.jpg

After fighting for near 48 hours straight, Strange still has enough power to raise a full sized moon off it's axis and blow it up.

The owning of Galactus.

http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galacko5uf.jpg

Again:

http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galatt1vc.jpg

Defeating Moondragon WITH THE MIND GEM in a telepathic battle:

Oh, and for his so-called poor record against low-level characters...

http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vs10ep.jpg

He owned Namor/Spiderman/Hulk/Black Panther and Black Bolt at the same time.

Owning Shuma:

http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shuma13tc.jpg
http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shuma27no.jpg

etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. 🙄

HELL yes. His power is so far above Loki's, it shouldn't even be questioned.

Doesn't change the fact that Dr. Strange is Loki's superior by FAR.

No, not when you're one of the three essential beings of the universe.

No, it isn't at all. I can't believe I'm even having this conversation. I'd have thought you'd know better than this.

That long list of scans really doesn't help your argument. I could list a number of scans showing feats of Thor's that rival those of Strange claiming that because Thor has done A he should be able to defeat Loki because has Loki hasn't done A. The fact that when the two battle they usually stalemate(Thor & Loki), and it doesn't change the fact that Loki has killed Strange.

Originally posted by batdude123
No. All I'm saying is that he doesn't face many other opponents that don't have something to do with Asgard.
He fought Surfer until Surfer overpowered him physically, but your right, he doesn't fight to many people out of Asgard.

Originally posted by batdude123
He's way above Loki. That's all that really needs to be said about him.
Sure his higher showings are way above him, but if like you said, Strange is a skyfather, then he shouldn't really be way above him. Above him sure.

Originally posted by batdude123
'Cause he does shit like this ALL the time:

Taking control of Thor's hammer with a spell:

http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strangethor9oa.jpg

Defeating the In-Betweener w/o prep:

http://img202.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ib17wg.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ib22ut.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ib31wr.jpg

Stops time across the planet, then wills time to reverse.

http://img203.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timerever12fl.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timerever22pp.jpg

Not only survives a supernova's change into a blackhole, he takes control over it and corks it.

http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nova4lg.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nova24lv.jpg

After fighting for near 48 hours straight, Strange still has enough power to raise a full sized moon off it's axis and blow it up.

The owning of Galactus.

http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galacko5uf.jpg

Again:

http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galatt1vc.jpg

Defeating Moondragon WITH THE MIND GEM in a telepathic battle:

Oh, and for his so-called poor record against low-level characters...

http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vs10ep.jpg

He owned Namor/Spiderman/Hulk/Black Panther and Black Bolt at the same time.

Owning Shuma:

http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shuma13tc.jpg
http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shuma27no.jpg

etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. 🙄

I said he was an inconsistent skyfather. Does this smell like a skyfather to you?
It sure as hell doesn't to me.

Also about that scan about the Namor/Hulk one, how did that turn out?

Originally posted by batdude123
HELL yes. His power is so far above Loki's, it shouldn't even be questioned.
So could this also mean that
{edit... f*ck}
I forgot what I was going to say...

Originally posted by batdude123
Doesn't change the fact that Dr. Strange is Loki's superior by FAR.

If you have noticed, the only thing that I have even said, is that Loki is able to fight Strange. The rest is just a bunch of rambling on.

Originally posted by batdude123
No, not when you're one of the three essential beings of the universe.
But he gets hungry. He can't help that.
So he should be as strong as he is normally when he is hungry?

Originally posted by batdude123
No, it isn't at all. I can't believe I'm even having this conversation. I'd have thought you'd know better than this.
So you disagree that he does bad against lower people?

Originally posted by Soujaboy
That long list of scans really doesn't help your argument. I could list a number of scans showing feats of Thor's that rival those of Strange claiming that because Thor has done A he should be able to defeat Loki because has Loki hasn't done A. The fact that when the two battle they usually stalemate(Thor & Loki), and it doesn't change the fact that Loki has killed Strange.

It's called JOBBING OFF HIS ASS. When the f*ck have have Thor or Loki ever had the power to shake or shape a universe?

http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shake25xl.jpg

Yeah, he'd own both Thor and Loki at the same time EASILY if he actually wanted them both dead.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
That long list of scans really doesn't help your argument. I could list a number of scans showing feats of Thor's that rival those of Strange claiming that because Thor has done A he should be able to defeat Loki because has Loki hasn't done A. The fact that when the two battle they usually stalemate(Thor & Loki), and it doesn't change the fact that Loki has killed Strange.

I think the part where Strange uberPWNs Galactus is pretty impressive.

Originally posted by masterbruce
I think the part where Strange uberPWNs Galactus is pretty impressive.
Of course, that is the only scan you seen.

Originally posted by bigbran
He fought Surfer until Surfer overpowered him physically, but your right, he doesn't fight to many people out of Asgard.

Okay then.

Originally posted by bigbran
Sure his higher showings are way above him, but if like you said, Strange is a skyfather, then he shouldn't really be way above him. Above him sure.

Any skyfather should own a herald level character pretty hard.

Originally posted by bigbran
I said he was an inconsistent skyfather. Does this smell like a skyfather to you?
It sure as hell doesn't to me.

Yeah, sometimes he's above skyfather.

Originally posted by bigbran
Also about that scan about the Namor/Hulk one, how did that turn out?

http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vs10ep.jpg

Yeah... pretty bad ownage.

Originally posted by bigbran
So could this also mean that

Huh? 😕

Originally posted by bigbran
If you have noticed, the only thing that I have even said, is that Loki is able to fight Strange. The rest is just a bunch of rambling on.

Okay, but Loki wouldn't last long AT ALL.

Originally posted by bigbran
But he gets hungry. He can't help that.
So he should be as strong as he is normally when he is hungry?

I understand, but even at 2% of his full power, he should still be owning some of the people he's lost to. 😬

Originally posted by bigbran
So you disagree that he does bad against lower people?

Well, here's him owning the Hulk:

http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sleep7ay.jpg

Originally posted by batdude123
Any skyfather should own a herald level character pretty hard.
Surfer has beaten quite a few people over skyfather/skyfather level.

Originally posted by batdude123
Yeah, sometimes he's above skyfather.
Sometimes he is lower.
I'm not questioning his power, I'm questioning his showings for support.

Originally posted by batdude123
http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vs10ep.jpg

Yeah... pretty bad ownage.

So did they drop, or did they just stand there and say "agghhhh"?

Originally posted by batdude123
Huh? 😕
Ya, forgot what I was going to say.

Originally posted by batdude123
Okay, but Loki wouldn't last long AT ALL.
Not on his highest showings.
Maybe a length on his average showings.

Originally posted by batdude123
I understand, but even at 2% of his full power, he should still be owning some of the people he's lost to. 😬
He has one shotted Khoon, who has in turn one shotted Strange, and beat Nova, and Surfer, in the same comic.

But ya, I agree, with how Galactus should be portrayed.

Originally posted by batdude123
Well, here's him owning the Hulk:

http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sleep7ay.jpg

He only put him to sleep... I guess ownage.

Also, I'm kind of on a Loki high right now, so that may have something to do with my opinion.
It's that damn Ultimate Alliance, I tells ya.

Originally posted by bigbran
Surfer has beaten quite a few people over skyfather/skyfather level.

So has Superman. We still don't characterize them as skyfather people themselves.

Originally posted by bigbran
Sometimes he is lower.
I'm not questioning his power, I'm questioning his showings for support.

Right, and it all averages out to him being a skyfather.

Originally posted by bigbran
So did they drop, or did they just stand there and say "agghhhh"?

What's the difference? They were still rendered helpless. And yes, in the end, they all went down.

Originally posted by bigbran
Not on his highest showings.
Maybe a length on his average showings.

I'd tend to doubt that.

Originally posted by bigbran
He has one shotted Khoon, who has in turn one shotted Strange, and beat Nova, and Surfer, in the same comic.

Yeah, well THIS Strange feat would make any Strange fanboy "arrive" all over the place. 😖hifty:

Originally posted by long pig
Strange vs Death.

Pt.1: Strange, Surfer, Nova and Galactus are killed in a massive blast.

Pt.2: None are truly immortal, except one. Strange is the only one who can't die. Unless he chooses to, that is.

Pt.3: Death says "I'm taking Galactus with me, if I keep him dead, everyone in the universe dies! How do ya like them apples?!"
Strange, oddly enough, doesn't like them apples one bit and attacks, and knocks Death on her ass.

Pt.4: After being knocked on her ass, Death gets testy! Death says "You can't kill Death you dumbshit!", and paralyzes Strange's body with a spell.

Pt.5: Strange's power is too much to be held by Death, he shatters Death's spell and breaks free!

Pt.6: After Death's attacks bounce off Strange's shield, the ancient one tells Strange he will never again fear Death. Strange says he never has, and he gets ready to put her on her ass once more.

Pt.7: Death retreats, and Strange saves Galactus and Surfer and Nova from death.

Originally posted by bigbran
But ya, I agree, with how Galactus should be portrayed.

Good.

Originally posted by bigbran
He only put him to sleep... I guess ownage.

Um... ya.

Originally posted by batdude123
So has Superman. We still don't characterize them as skyfather people themselves.
I never said he was. You said that any skyfather would own any herald level.

Originally posted by batdude123
Right, and it all averages out to him being a skyfather.
But it still doesn't put him on abstract.

Originally posted by batdude123
What's the difference? They were still rendered helpless. And yes, in the end, they all went down.
OK, that's all I needed to know.

Originally posted by batdude123
I'd tend to doubt that.
The Loki high tends to disagree with you.

Originally posted by batdude123
Yeah, well THIS Strange feat would make any Strange fanboy "arrive" all over the place. 😖hifty:

That feat is even worse than first thought.

Originally posted by bigbran

When Galactus has Strange in holding, Surfer comes in, and gets pimphanded out.
1. http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1676/silversurferv30671213ag7.jpg
2. http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/6379/silversurferv306714ms0.jpg
3. http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2439/silversurferv306715qu8.jpg

After Khoon beats both Nova, and Surfer, he then ko's Strange with one hit.
1. http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7416/silversurferv306914py9.jpg
2. http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1715/silversurferv306915dg8.jpg

Galactus owns him with a mere eyeblast, then hooks him up to a machine.
1. http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/224/silversurferv306918fa0.jpg
2. http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1122/silversurferv306919ep3.jpg
3. http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5082/silversurferv306920zx8.jpg

So in other words, Galactus easily owned, a person who was able to beat Surfer, Nova, and Strange quite easily.

Originally posted by bigbran
I never said he was. You said that any skyfather would own any herald level.

So? Strange treats skyfather level characters like his b*tch.

Originally posted by bigbran
But it still doesn't put him on abstract.

Actually, on second thought... his average showings DO put him on the abstract level of power. 😬

Originally posted by bigbran
OK, that's all I needed to know.

Well, here's Strange owning Mindless Hulk:

http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mindles6gy.jpg

Originally posted by bigbran
The Loki high tends to disagree with you.

In all honesty, Loki shouldn't even register as a threat to Strange. He's MUCH too powerful for that.

Originally posted by bigbran
That feat is even worse than first thought.

Then you might want to close your eyes for this one: 😈

Originally posted by long pig
The Living Tribunal & In-Betweener attack Strange because his power has unbalanced the universe, they decide to kill Dr.Strange.

You'd think they'd own him, but, no, not really.

LT goes as far as to save the In-Betweener from Strange's ability to use Chaos and Order...
LT ends up failing to keep Strange from reaching his goal.



And this one:

Defeating Death again:

http://img435.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deathde7px.jpg

😗

Strange owns him 1,000,000/10 ✅

Originally posted by batdude123
So? Strange treats skyfather level characters like his b*tch.
King Thor?

Originally posted by batdude123
Actually, on second thought... his average showings DO put him on the abstract level of power. 😬
😱 😐
So would this also put Galactus over that level, since he was able to stalemate the person who is the most powerful supplyer to Strange?

Originally posted by batdude123
Well, here's Strange owning Mindless Hulk:

http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mindles6gy.jpg

He does have the power to teleport people.
Wasn't he supposedly useless to Mindless Hulk, until he teleported him?

Originally posted by batdude123
In all honesty, Loki shouldn't even register as a threat to Strange. He's MUCH too powerful for that.
Maybe to the supposed "Abstract Strange".

Originally posted by batdude123
Then you might want to close your eyes for this one: 😈
What? In-Betweener basically beating Strange? Then getting the rest of the battle cut out?

Originally posted by batdude123
And this one:

Defeating Death again:

http://img435.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deathde7px.jpg

😗

Strange owns him 1,000,000/10 ✅

Flying away from Death?

Originally posted by bigbran
King Thor?

CRAP?

Originally posted by bigbran
😱 😐
So would this also put Galactus over that level, since he was able to stalemate the person who is the most powerful supplyer to Strange? [/B]

Strange has some feats that Galactus could only hope to do.

Originally posted by bigbran
Maybe to the supposed "Abstract Strange".

He basically IS that level.

Originally posted by bigbran
What? In-Betweener basically beating Strange? Then getting the rest of the battle cut out?

Who was aided by Living Tribunal. eer

Originally posted by bigbran
Flying away from Death?

What the hell are you talking about?? He defeated Death's portal to the dimension she created for him. Death even acknowledge it if you read the scan.

Here's some more Fate fanboy orgasm stuff:

Taking on the Living Tribunal:

http://img430.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strangetales1581922ud.jpg
http://img430.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strangetales1582022vv.jpg
http://img430.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strangetales1582121ww.jpg
http://img430.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strangetales1582221hu.jpg
http://img430.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strangetales1582322tm.jpg

Negating the effects of the IG:

http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=igfeat4hq.jpg


Strange to Thor: "Tell you what, I'll handle the "hocus pockus" and you just stick to hitting people with your hammer. How does that sound?"

OWNED

Here, Strange defeats friggin Captain Universe and guess what he does? Steals the Uni-power with a gesture!

http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=guardiansofthegalaxy3317jp9.jpg

Originally posted by long pig
One of Strange's most powerful feats.

Get this, people. Strange gets pissed, he talks to a demon and Strange goes off on him...no, not just him, he goes off on the ENTIRE universe that the demon lives in!

Strange mind ****s every-single-being in that dimension and then...[b]DESTROYS THE DIMENSION! Holy hell!

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/198/4480/640/strange%20tales%2051.jpg [/B]

Bran, his power level can't be denied. He'd beat Loki 10000/10.