Loki vs Dr Doom

Started by batdude1236 pages

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Lol, since when does a dimension equate to a universe? wow you've sunk low.

Yes Juggernaut was tearing through realities, destroying dimensions in his path to the dimension were Cyttoraks mortal enemies reside.

All one can do is lauph at this pitiful excuse for an argument. You've misrepresented nearly all of your scans in this thread claiming Strange has stalemated LT when all LT was doing was testing him. Claiming Strange has stalemated the IG when Adam was also testing Strange putting him in separate test with the separate different gems. Strange was nearly killed by the power gem alone, yet for some odd reason you left this out.

The only abstracts Strange defeats are Characters like Shuma Gorath and Agmagotto. You state Strange defeate Abstracts all the time, yet theres only a few abstracts in the universe. So who else abstract lv has Strange defeated?

For the record I hate Loki with a passion, I just realize characters power and give my opinion. For some odd reason you read Stranges respect thread and view him as god.

Get out

Since always. It's not my fault you didn't realize that different dimensions = different universes.

Tearing holes through reality/dimensions DOES NOT = destroying them. Sasquatch has accomplished that same feat.

Plus, wasn't that Trion Juggernaut? I could be wrong about that.

I never said Strange stalemated the Living Tribunal. You're mistaken.

Death, In-Betweener, Dormammu, etc.

Loki really shouldn't be beating Strange. And PUH-LEASE. I have plenty of prior Strange knowledge. 🙄

Do you really feel the need to copy what I stated before because you idolize me? 😄

Originally posted by batdude123
Since always. It's not my fault you didn't realize that different dimensions = different universes.

I always thought of them as smaller universes.
Like Agamotto's.
Originally posted by batdude123
Tearing holes through reality/dimensions DOES NOT = destroying them. Sasquatch has accomplished that same feat.
He was tearing down dimensional walls.

Originally posted by batdude123
Plus, wasn't that Trion Juggernaut? I could be wrong about that.
Trion it was.

Originally posted by batdude123
Death, In-Betweener, Dormammu, etc.
Dormammu got blinked out by Eternity, so I wouldn't really qualify him as abstract.

Originally posted by bigbran
Thus what I have been saying this whole time.
He doesn't do as good against lower people than extremely powerful, lets call them gods.

Which means what, exactly? PIS is disregarded on KMC.

Originally posted by bigbran
Odin, isn't really comparable to other skyfathers.
Fine, I'll give you skyfather though.

Good.

Originally posted by bigbran
Of course they do, but in a comic, Strange doesn't display his abstract like power against people like Surfer, and the like.

I showed you how he just sapped the power right out of SS, did I not?

Originally posted by bigbran
Who be they?
Death, In-Betweener?

Shumma Gorath, Dormammu, Galactus, etc.

Originally posted by bigbran
I think we know that Strange is higher than them.

Good.

Originally posted by bigbran
So Eternity loses to Silver Surfer?

Galactus loses to Thor. Dominus lost to Superman.

Originally posted by bigbran
Still not seeing an abstract here.

Kent is skyfather level. I never said anything about him being an abstract.

Originally posted by bigbran
I'm not trying to discredit it.
I'm saying he was weaker.

He owned Fate. He beat Nabu in a good fight.

Yes you were.

Kent is skyfather though.

Originally posted by batdude123
Since always. It's not my fault you didn't realize that different dimensions = different universes.

Tearing holes through reality/dimensions DOES NOT = destroying them. Sasquatch has accomplished that same feat.

Plus, wasn't that Trion Juggernaut? I could be wrong about that.

I never said Strange stalemated the Living Tribunal. You're mistaken.

Death, In-Betweener, Dormammu, etc.

Loki really shouldn't be beating Strange. And PUH-LEASE. I have plenty of prior Strange knowledge. 🙄

Do you really feel the need to copy what I stated before because you idolize me? 😄

No they don't Batdude. For example Cyttorak has power over his own dimension that resides in the 616 universe. For Cyttorak to have the power over a universe would imply that Cyttorak = Eternity, which he doesn't.

No Sasquatch hasn't. Sasquatch tore a hole in reality, Juggernaut was teraing through the fabric of time and space, leavng destruction in his wake.

Actually Batdude you did. You stated that Strange stalemated the IG for a while.

I'm sure theres flaws in those as well, if I wasn't on my phone I'd point them out.

Yes Loki has and can defeat Strange.

I just thought you would like to taste your own shit. lol

Originally posted by bigbran
I always thought of them as smaller universes.
Like Agamotto's.

Dimensions do not = pocket universe unless they are said to be.

Originally posted by bigbran
He was tearing down dimensional walls.

Just as I thought. He wasn't destroying them.

Originally posted by bigbran
Trion it was.

Yeah, and that changes everything.

Originally posted by bigbran
Dormammu got blinked out by Eternity, so I wouldn't really qualify him as abstract.

That doesn't discredit his status.

Originally posted by batdude123
Which means what, exactly? PIS is disregarded on KMC.
Or how he usually does against them in comics.
When has this really been a battle, that we would have to bring the rules in here? The only one arguing for a battle is Souja.

Originally posted by batdude123
Good.
Excellent.

Originally posted by batdude123
I showed you how he just sapped the power right out of SS, did I not?
Yes, he did block out some of his powers, using a shield.

Originally posted by batdude123
Shumma Gorath, Dormammu, Galactus, etc.
All of those aren't really abstract.
Galactus being weak, also definately isn't abstract, just cosmic jobbing.

Originally posted by batdude123
Good.
Sexcellent.

Originally posted by batdude123
Galactus loses to Thor. Dominus lost to Superman.

Galactus hasn't really ever fought Thor one on one. Thor did cheapshot him twice though. After the first one, Galactus almost killed him, but when he threw him, someone teleported Thor to safety, so he could unleash a godblast on the unexpecting Galactus.
Dominus lost to Superman...

Originally posted by batdude123
Kent is skyfather level. I never said anything about him being an abstract.
However you were arguing to me, when I said that he wasn't just below abstract level.

Originally posted by batdude123
Yes you were.

Kent is skyfather though.

No, I was just saying.

He didn't really stand a chance against Spectre though, he got owned.

Originally posted by batdude123
Dimensions do not = pocket universe unless they are said to be.
Well, Agamotto's dimension definately isn't the size of 616 from what I seen.

Originally posted by batdude123
Just as I thought. He wasn't destroying them.
Impressive none-the-less.

Originally posted by batdude123
Yeah, and that changes everything.
Yup.

Originally posted by batdude123
That doesn't discredit his status.
Still, he might be a little below abstract level, like Galactus.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
That's all I've wanted to hear.

All this Strange is abstract lv is annoying.

For your question about when has Loki killed Strange, I misread the comic. Strange appeared and placed an artifact around Thor's neck negating the Odin Power. Thor yelled telling him no mortal could accomplish such a thing, Strange said I can't but the council elite pantheon of earth can. Then they go off panel, and when they return after a couple hours of fighting everyone's dead except Cap and Balder who is killed shortly afterwards.


That was not even canon, really. It happened in an alternate timeline.

And it was bullshit anyway. Listen, Loki can NOT use the EOA, no one but Strange can and ONLY if his heart is pure and good. Loki using it was bad writing. Also, Loki knew he couldn't handle Strange, so he went and had to steal Strange's artifacts to gain a small advantage.

Loki is not as powerful, as talented, as experienced as Strange. Strange is 3000 years older than him.

When I said Loki may be equal, I said that more as a sarcastic stick, he's not equal. Inferior.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
No they don't Batdude. For example Cyttorak has power over his own dimension that resides in the 616 universe. For Cyttorak to have the power over a universe would imply that Cyttorak = Eternity, which he doesn't.

No Sasquatch hasn't. Sasquatch tore a hole in reality, Juggernaut was teraing through the fabric of time and space, leavng destruction in his wake.

Actually Batdude you did. You stated that Strange stalemated the IG for a while.

I'm sure theres flaws in those as well, if I wasn't on my phone I'd point them out.

Yes Loki has and can defeat Strange.

I just thought you would like to taste your own shit. lol


Loki has never beaten Strange. Where are you getting this from?

Strange, in his first few appearances, before being even 1000th as powerful as he is now stalemated Loki and even beat him in a mental fight.

When has Loki ever destoyed an entire dimension like Strange has? A dimension really is no different than a universe. A universe can RESIDE in a dimension.

616 universe IS a dimension.

Originally posted by long pig
Loki has never beaten Strange. Where are you getting this from?

Strange, in his first few appearances, before being even 1000th as powerful as he is now stalemated Loki and even beat him in a mental fight.

When has Loki ever destoyed an entire dimension like Strange has? A dimension really is no different than a universe. A universe can RESIDE in a dimension.

616 universe IS a dimension.

Sorry Long Pig, but even a half powered Loki had Strange helpless and against the ropes.

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