Loki vs Dr Doom

Originally posted by batdude123
CRAP?

Originally posted by batdude123
Strange has some feats that Galactus could only hope to do.

Originally posted by batdude123
He basically IS that level.

Originally posted by batdude123
Who was aided by Living Tribunal. eer

Originally posted by batdude123
What the hell are you talking about?? He defeated Death's portal to the dimension she created for him. Death even acknowledge it if you read the scan.

Originally posted by batdude123
Here's some more Fate fanboy orgasm stuff:

Taking on the Living Tribunal:

http://img430.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strangetales1581922ud.jpg
http://img430.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strangetales1582022vv.jpg
http://img430.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strangetales1582121ww.jpg
http://img430.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strangetales1582221hu.jpg
http://img430.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strangetales1582322tm.jpg

Originally posted by batdude123
Negating the effects of the IG:

http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=igfeat4hq.jpg

Originally posted by batdude123

Strange to Thor: "Tell you what, I'll handle the "hocus pockus" and you just stick to hitting people with your hammer. How does that sound?"

Originally posted by batdude123
OWNED

Here, Strange defeats friggin Captain Universe and guess what he does? Steals the Uni-power with a gesture!

http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=guardiansofthegalaxy3317jp9.jpg

Originally posted by batdude123
Bran, his power level can't be denied. He'd beat Loki 10000/10.

Also, based on what your putting out, how does Fate even come close to Strange? Something I haven't really understood.

Originally posted by bigbran
Void?
You said they were his bitches, but the fact is that, powerful characters are his bitches, while skyfather to below make Strange look like a pussy.
Inconsistent?

What the f*ck are you talking about? Strange makes skyfather levels look like pussies. END OF STORY.

He took out some infinites, who are themselves skyfather level characters.

Originally posted by bigbran
I never said where he was in power, nor was I arguing it. I just said that he has awesome showings against powerful characters, while he has low showings against weak characters.

Name people. Hulk has been owned three times by Strange. The one time you're thinking of was a cheap shot, and Strange was back up in a few panels.

He also owned Silver Surfer and Thanos at the same time.

Originally posted by bigbran
Like I was saying all along.
Yes he has more showings against higher people, but it still doesn't change the fact, that he is underwritten against low people.

He's beaten lower level people just as badly as higher level ones.

Originally posted by bigbran
Hmm, based on beating Death, and In-Betweener?
Plus, if you going to mention Shuma, then how powerful is he exactly?
I really haven't seen anything from him, to say that he is way over Galactus.

PUH-LEASE. He has tons of showings that put him on abstract level of power. He IS abstract level.

Originally posted by bigbran
Yes, I seen it, but I was looking at the pictures while I was reading it, and all I seen was maybe a blast come from his hand, then he flew away.
I might be wrong, but what I see, the wording doesn't really show him outright beating her in that one.

Text>Pictures

Originally posted by bigbran
Still makes it pis.
LT would one snap Strange.

Apparently not.

Originally posted by bigbran
Thor isn't magical with spells, and shit, so how does this make it relevent?

Just proving a point about how Loki would fair.

Originally posted by bigbran
You do know that I have seen all of these scans. ('cept, I haven't really looked at the Death one)

Good, then you must've seen this one:

http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drstrange042wm1.jpg

HE WAS THREATENING THE EXISTENCE OF THE ENTIRE MOTHER F*CKIN'G MULTIVERSE!!!

Originally posted by bigbran
Never denied it. I said at first that Loki could fight Strange, and I also said he was inconsistent(Strange).
I also said that a game put me on a Loki high, but this makes me deny the power of Strange?

Okay then.

Originally posted by bigbran
Also, based on what your putting out, how does Fate even come close to Strange? Something I haven't really understood.

Apparently he doesn't.

Originally posted by Zahit
Loki's magic is extremely powerful and even greater than Dr. Strange.
Plus superhuman Asgardian physiology.
Like I said....NO ONE on Earth has beaten Loki one-on-one.
Thor can do it ONLY cause of Mjolnir.

respect...

Maybe equal to Strange on a very good day...maybe.

When did Loki kill Strange?

Originally posted by batdude123
What the f*ck are you talking about? Strange makes skyfather levels look like pussies. END OF STORY.

Originally posted by batdude123
He took out some infinites, who are themselves skyfather level characters.

Originally posted by batdude123
Name people. Hulk has been owned three times by Strange. The one time you're thinking of was a cheap shot, and Strange was back up in a few panels.

Originally posted by batdude123
He also owned Silver Surfer and Thanos at the same time.

Originally posted by batdude123
He's beaten lower level people just as badly as higher level ones.

Originally posted by batdude123
PUH-LEASE. He has tons of showings that put him on abstract level of power. He IS abstract level.

Originally posted by batdude123
Text>Pictures

Originally posted by batdude123
Apparently not.

Originally posted by batdude123
Just proving a point about how Loki would fair.

Originally posted by batdude123
Good, then you must've seen this one:

http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drstrange042wm1.jpg

HE WAS THREATENING THE EXISTENCE OF THE ENTIRE MOTHER F*CKIN'G [B]MULTIVERSE!!![/B]

Originally posted by batdude123
Apparently he doesn't.

Originally posted by long pig
When did Loki kill Strange?

Originally posted by long pig
Erm.......no.

Maybe equal to Strange on a very good day...maybe.

That's all I've wanted to hear.

All this Strange is abstract lv is annoying.

For your question about when has Loki killed Strange, I misread the comic. Strange appeared and placed an artifact around Thor's neck negating the Odin Power. Thor yelled telling him no mortal could accomplish such a thing, Strange said I can't but the council elite pantheon of earth can. Then they go off panel, and when they return after a couple hours of fighting everyone's dead except Cap and Balder who is killed shortly afterwards.

Originally posted by bigbran
No, I always thought it was. Strange makes above Skyfathers look like pussies.
He jobs to people lower than that.

He's beaten A LOT of skyfathers.

Originally posted by bigbran
I thought they were above...

The particular ones he was fighting were skyfather.

Originally posted by bigbran
WM Thor along with the rest of the Infinity Watch? Loki?

Silver Surfer and Strange were trying to help Thor iirc. And actually, Loki once stole ALL (every single one) of Strange's artifacts (even ones that he hardly uses ever) and was using them on Strange, but Stephen was STILL able to stalemate him.

Originally posted by bigbran
When?

Thanos and Surfer start to fight.

The combined power of Thor & Drax & Warlock & Hulk & Firelord & Doom can't handle them.

Strange does it in one shot.

http://img468.imageshack.us/my.php?image=surfstrange20wu.jpg

Doom asks Strange what I've asked a million times, why don't you just throw Thanos in another dimension and be done with it?

Strange agrees and shackles both Surfer and Thanos and puts them into another dimension.

http://img487.imageshack.us/my.php?image=surfstrange39lk.jpg

Originally posted by bigbran
I don't think he has ever really beaten them as badly.
Shuma Gorath? I really don't think he has beaten one like that.
I said he jobs to lower people.

The majority of the times he beats them all.

Originally posted by bigbran
Tons?

Yes... TONS.

Originally posted by bigbran
I don't know, them purty pictures are very attractive.

They sho' is purdy. 😖

Originally posted by bigbran
Like I said, pis?

Nope. 😗

Originally posted by bigbran
Loki high. If it were anyone else right now, I would probably agree. It's just the... have you played Ultimate Alliance?

Not yet. Is it any good?

Originally posted by bigbran
I've seen it, just don't think I really read it.

Yeah, well tell me that's not impressive...

Originally posted by bigbran
Yes, come to the Marvel side. 😈 🙄

Well, I'll agree that on their best days Strange>Fate. ✅

Originally posted by Soujaboy
All this Strange is abstract lv is annoying.

Look through his respect thread.

I say that Loki takes this. Remember that time he toyed with every villain in Marvel during the Acts of Vengence? Yeah, that'll happen again.

Originally posted by batdude123
Look through his respect thread.

Only reading scans posted in respect threads can be misleading. Although it covers the characters high points they rarely if ever cover the prep time and outside help the characters receive.

At best I'd put Strange at high herald lv. Many heros have feats that put them weigh over the lv they really are, doesn't mean they're abstract because they beat on Galactus. Otherwise Thor would be mid to high skyfather lv because he nearly killed Galactus, defeated Ego, stalemated Zeus for a few months, stalemated Stranger, cracked Exitars dome, nearly defeated Surtur with the twilight sword, blocked and absorbed a blast that would have destroyed a 5th of the universe, restored a dead sun, etc. These feats are easily skyfather lv feats yet Thor is still viewed as being a high herald lv.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Only reading scans posted in respect threads can be misleading. Although it covers the characters high points they rarely if ever cover the prep time and outside help the characters receive.

At best I'd put Strange at high herald lv. Many heros have feats that put them weigh over the lv they really are, doesn't mean they're abstract because they beat on Galactus. Otherwise Thor would be mid to high skyfather lv because he nearly killed Galactus, defeated Ego, stalemated Zeus for a few months, stalemated Stranger, cracked Exitars dome, nearly defeated Surtur with the twilight sword, blocked and absorbed a blast that would have destroyed a 5th of the universe, restored a dead sun, etc. These feats are easily skyfather lv feats yet Thor is still viewed as being a high herald lv.

I've never seen a high herald level character destroy an entire dimension before:

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/198/4480/640/strange%20tales%2051.jpg

Or have been a multiversal disturbance:

http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drstrange042wm1.jpg

Get out.

Originally posted by batdude123
I've never seen a high herald level character destroy an entire dimension before:

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/198/4480/640/strange%20tales%2051.jpg

Or have been a multiversal disturbance:

http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drstrange042wm1.jpg

Get out.

All I can do is lauph. He destroyed a dimension, so what Juggernaut was destroying dimensions with single blows, and even Hulk has destroyed a dimension described as being the dark cosmos.

Multiversal disturbance? yea, again all I can do is lauph at you.

Stop being a fanboy, and listen to what people are telling you.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
All I can do is lauph. He destroyed a dimension, so what Juggernaut was destroying dimensions with single blows, and even Hulk has destroyed a dimension described as being the dark cosmos.

Multiversal disturbance? yea, again all I can do is lauph at you.

Stop being a fanboy, and listen to what people are telling you.

Juggernaut was punching holes through reality. HARDLY what Strange was doing. He destroyed the ENTIRE dimension (a universe).

Don't call me a fanboy because of what's shown on the scan. That's rather immature.

And again, he beats abstract level beings all the time... not once in a blue moon. Those are his average feats.

YOU'RE the fanboy for thinking Loki would stand a chance in a non PIS fight.

Originally posted by batdude123
He's beaten A LOT of skyfathers.

Originally posted by batdude123
The particular ones he was fighting were skyfather.

Originally posted by batdude123
Silver Surfer and Strange were trying to help Thor iirc. And actually, Loki once stole ALL (every single one) of Strange's artifacts (even ones that he hardly uses ever) and was using them on Strange, but Stephen was STILL able to stalemate him.

Hasn't Loki fought him without those?
Also, so your saying in a comic, that Strange would destroy Loki, or anyone else, close to that level?

Originally posted by batdude123
Thanos and Surfer start to fight.

The combined power of Thor & Drax & Warlock & Hulk & Firelord & Doom can't handle them.

Strange does it in one shot.

http://img468.imageshack.us/my.php?image=surfstrange20wu.jpg

Doom asks Strange what I've asked a million times, why don't you just throw Thanos in another dimension and be done with it?

Strange agrees and shackles both Surfer and Thanos and puts them into another dimension.

http://img487.imageshack.us/my.php?image=surfstrange39lk.jpg

It looked more like he was asking Surfer to fight him, based on that scan...

Originally posted by batdude123
The majority of the times he beats them all.

Originally posted by batdude123
Yes... TONS.

Anyway, I can really only recall him beating like two or three abstract levels.
Then Shuma Gorath, and a couple more.

Originally posted by batdude123
They sho' is purdy. 😖

Originally posted by batdude123
Nope. 😗

Originally posted by batdude123
Not yet. Is it any good?

Originally posted by batdude123
Yeah, well tell me that's not impressive...

Originally posted by batdude123
Well, I'll agree that on their best days Strange>Fate. ✅

Originally posted by bigbran
Mephisto?
Didn't him and Doom do that?
Who else?

Satannish, Ikon, etc.

Originally posted by bigbran
Didn't he say that he had infinate power in that fight?

Which is one of those "I'M THE MOST POWERFULEST PERSON EVEREZZ!!!11" type of statements. Don't put too much stock into that.

Originally posted by bigbran
They still got there asses kicked in that fight.

Strange wasn't even trying. As you've seen before, he can easily take control of Mjolnir if he wants to.

Originally posted by bigbran
Hasn't Loki fought him without those?
Also, so your saying in a comic, that Strange would destroy Loki, or anyone else, close to that level?

The most powerful showings for Strange would eat Loki and anyone herald level.

Originally posted by bigbran
He seperated them. Still, don't see where he owned both of them.

It looked more like he was asking Surfer to fight him, based on that scan...

Here's Strange owning SS alone.
http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bubbleqt3.jpg

Originally posted by bigbran
But since he is an abstract, why would he only beat them a majority?

Do we really need to get into this? Galactus loses all the time when he shouldn't. Same with a lot of abstracts. It's called PIS.

Originally posted by bigbran
So, let me get this straight:
You say Strange is an abstract, yet at the bottom of this post, you also said that "on there best days, Strange>Fate"?
So this would also mean that Strange is one step beyond Fate, thus Fate is almost an abstract in power?

Kent ain't no punk.

Originally posted by bigbran
Anyway, I can really only recall him beating like two or three abstract levels.
Then Shuma Gorath, and a couple more.

He's beaten a lot more than that. I'm not just talking about direct confrontations either. His overall power that he's displayed is abstract level.

Originally posted by bigbran
Ya... and all LT did in that scan was put him in his bands. Are you saying that if LT went after Strange, that Strange would be able to hold his own?
Interesting...

I was joking, hence the "whistle" smilie.

And don't patronize me with "Interesting..."

Originally posted by bigbran
Only 1>?

Kent's pimpsmacked an Imp, defeated Mordru, did pretty well against Spectre in Day Of Vengeance, etc.

Originally posted by batdude123
Satannish, Ikon, etc.

Originally posted by batdude123
Which is one of those "I'M THE MOST POWERFULEST PERSON EVEREZZ!!!11" type of statements. Don't put too much stock into that.

Originally posted by batdude123
Strange wasn't even trying. As you've seen before, he can easily take control of Mjolnir if he wants to.

Originally posted by batdude123
The most powerful showings for Strange would eat Loki and anyone herald level.

Originally posted by batdude123
Here's Strange owning SS alone.
http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bubbleqt3.jpg

Originally posted by batdude123
Do we really need to get into this? Galactus loses all the time when he shouldn't. Same with a lot of abstracts. It's called PIS.

Originally posted by batdude123
Kent ain't no punk.

Originally posted by batdude123
He's beaten a lot more than that. I'm not just talking about direct confrontations either. His overall power that he's displayed is abstract level.

Originally posted by batdude123
I was joking, hence the "whistle" smilie.

And don't patronize me with "Interesting..."

Originally posted by batdude123
Kent's pimpsmacked an Imp, defeated Mordru, did pretty well against Spectre in Day Of Vengeance, etc.

Originally posted by batdude123
Juggernaut was punching holes through reality. HARDLY what Strange was doing. He destroyed the ENTIRE dimension (a universe).

Don't call me a fanboy because of what's shown on the scan. That's rather immature.

And again, he beats abstract level beings all the time... not once in a blue moon. Those are his average feats.

YOU'RE the fanboy for thinking Loki would stand a chance in a non PIS fight.

Lol, since when does a dimension equate to a universe? wow you've sunk low.

Yes Juggernaut was tearing through realities, destroying dimensions in his path to the dimension were Cyttoraks mortal enemies reside.

All one can do is lauph at this pitiful excuse for an argument. You've misrepresented nearly all of your scans in this thread claiming Strange has stalemated LT when all LT was doing was testing him. Claiming Strange has stalemated the IG when Adam was also testing Strange putting him in separate test with the separate different gems. Strange was nearly killed by the power gem alone, yet for some odd reason you left this out.

The only abstracts Strange defeats are Characters like Shuma Gorath and Agmagotto. You state Strange defeate Abstracts all the time, yet theres only a few abstracts in the universe. So who else abstract lv has Strange defeated?

For the record I hate Loki with a passion, I just realize characters power and give my opinion. For some odd reason you read Stranges respect thread and view him as god.

Get out

Originally posted by bigbran
Still, King Thor.

Thor has been wtfpwned by Mongoose and Hulk.

It's PIS.

Originally posted by bigbran
Still doesn't put him one skyfather level. I always thought of them as above.

That one he fought would probably lose to Odin.

Originally posted by bigbran
Like I said quite a few times before, inconsistent!

You've listed A COUPLE of times. Everybody has low showings, it's the nature of the beast. But on average he's way above Loki and the like.

Originally posted by bigbran
But in a comic... he wouldn't beat him as bad, or even doubtful that he may beat him.

Despite beating the crap out of high abstracts IN COMICS?

Originally posted by bigbran
Still, not Surfer and Thanos.

All he was trying to do was seperate them. One puny blast knocked both of them on their asses. He did what Hulk, Adam Warlock, Firelord, Thor, Drax, and Doom couldn't do.

Originally posted by bigbran
Galactus isn't really claissified as an abstract.
I also don't really think that abstracts lose to people under skyfathers.

Sure they do. eer

Originally posted by bigbran
Still, why should he be just under abstract. I have never really seen him display as much power as Strange (whom I am not calling that level).

Because of his feats.

Originally posted by bigbran
All that abstract like power, was wonderful against WM Thor...

Whom he didn't even want to fight. 🙄

Originally posted by bigbran
Didn't he get killed in Day of Vengence? Then get killed as Nabu, as well?
Wasn't this also a weaker Spectre?

Don't try and discredit that. Spectre was still strong enough to beat Billy who was powered by every single magic user in DC. Spectre is Spectre. Rogue or not, he's still up there with Lucifer and Michael.

Originally posted by batdude123
Thor has been wtfpwned by Mongoose and Hulk.

It's PIS.

Originally posted by batdude123
That one he fought would probably lose to Odin.

Originally posted by batdude123
You've listed A COUPLE of times. Everybody has low showings, it's the nature of the beast. But on average he's way above Loki and the like.

Originally posted by batdude123
Despite beating the crap out of high abstracts IN COMICS?

Originally posted by batdude123
All he was trying to do was seperate them. One puny blast knocked both of them on their asses. He did what Hulk, Adam Warlock, Firelord, Thor, Drax, and Doom couldn't do.

Originally posted by batdude123
Sure they do. eer

Originally posted by batdude123
Because of his feats.

Originally posted by batdude123
Whom he didn't even want to fight. 🙄

Originally posted by batdude123
Don't try and discredit that. Spectre was still strong enough to beat Billy who was powered by every single magic user in DC. Spectre is Spectre. Rogue or not, he's still up there with Lucifer and Michael.

He owned Fate. He beat Nabu in a good fight.